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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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How to find the correct temperature?

I know of a couple that wants to add HIDs/Xenons to their Odyssey Touring and they've come to me. I have no idea if they need a kit or just the bulbs themselves. Also how to find the correct temperature 6000k,8000k something legal if possible thanks!
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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If they dont come with Xenons from the factory then you need to add a kit.

Not sure what size they take though.

Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.

I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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I think it needs a HID kit for 9006 bulb type.. and as mentioned above 4300K or 5000K will be the best bet for low beam.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
If they dont come with Xenons from the factory then you need to add a kit.

Not sure what size they take though.

Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.

I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
I even find it difficult to see with my xenons in my TSX while driving in the rain
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Jesal is spot on, its best if you get a kit designed for the car you plan on installing them in. You need ballasts, bulbs and the wiring/plugs required to make it happen. If you buy a plug and play kit all you have to do is literally unplug the old ones, mount the ballasts(usually double sided tape or zip ties is enough) install the bulb then plug the ballast into the factory wiring and the wires from the ballast to the bulb. HID also produce less heat then their halogen counterparts, so heat is not an issue. Also the due to the nature of how the ballast converts the power they use less amperage to achieve much brighter light, all around a win win situation, minus the cost of course.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Jesal is spot on, its best if you get a kit designed for the car you plan on installing them in. You need ballasts, bulbs and the wiring/plugs required to make it happen. If you buy a plug and play kit all you have to do is literally unplug the old ones, mount the ballasts(usually double sided tape or zip ties is enough) install the bulb then plug the ballast into the factory wiring and the wires from the ballast to the bulb. HID also produce less heat then their halogen counterparts, so heat is not an issue. Also the due to the nature of how the ballast converts the power they use less amperage to achieve much brighter light, all around a win win situation, minus the cost of course.


Thanks a lot for your help! How do I find out which kit was designed for the car? As much as installation go I don't know jackshit , I'll try to find a mechanic or ask TommySalami
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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I think I have heard good things about the kits from mobilehid.com. I haven't had any personal experience though, so maybe someone can chime in.

I would avoid any cheap ebay kit and the like. of course retrofitting/projectors would be the best choice, if you just want something simple a normal kit might be okay. The kits from mobilehid come w/ the wiring harness that should be used. ie. power wire directly to the battery with a relay controlled by your stock headlight harness.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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What year is the Odyssey? BTW, I have 5000k in my Accord, and they are very similar to OEM.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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I like this comparison pic showing light temps and how they look:

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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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The 6000k my buddy has in his Cougar are PURPLE. Look just like the 12000K in the chart above.

Not sure if he got the wrong bulbs, or 6000k is just that purple, but like others have said stick with the 4300k kit and light output should be much better.

Also, installing a plug and play kit is as easy as hooking up a computer. All the plugs can only go in one way.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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anything other than 4300k I think looks ridiculous and reduces light output, since it's a mini van safety is priority #1. Your going to need a retrofit kit with ballasts and everything.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Since the Odyssey's don't come with projectors to begin with I would advise against upgrading to HID. You're better off adding some PIAA or SilverStar bulbs to get about a 4000-4100K light output. The optimal light output for HID systems is 4300K so it's not that far off.

The reason I advise against adding HID to non-projector housings is 1) glare 2) more glare 3) pissing off other drivers because of the glare mentioned in 1 and 2. Housings specifically made for HID's are different from standard halogen housings, they focus the light differently.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Since the Odyssey's don't come with projectors to begin with I would advise against upgrading to HID. You're better off adding some PIAA or SilverStar bulbs to get about a 4000-4100K light output. The optimal light output for HID systems is 4300K so it's not that far off.

The reason I advise against adding HID to non-projector housings is 1) glare 2) more glare 3) pissing off other drivers because of the glare mentioned in 1 and 2. Housings specifically made for HID's are different from standard halogen housings, they focus the light differently.
Good call! As for the two brands you mentioned, do I have to find the bulb that much the Odyssey or any bulbs would just fit?
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
Good call! As for the two brands you mentioned, do I have to find the bulb that much the Odyssey or any bulbs would just fit?
If I recall, the odyssey's use 9007 bulbs, but double check to be certain.

Sylvania, who manufactures the Silverstar bulbs, makes sizes to fit practically all bulb types. They have two levels of Silverstar bulbs, one that is at 4000K and another that is at 4100K. They differ in price by a few bucks last I recall.

You can go here to find out which bulb fits your car:

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...lacementGuide/

However, double check with your owners manual before buying the bulb.

I have yet to ever buy a set of PIAA headlight bulbs so I can't really offer much advice on those bulbs, but the brand speaks for itself. they are high quality.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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^^^ JUst checked and it looks like 2006-2008 ody's have 9006 low beam and 9005 high beam. Don't know what the manual says though for verification.
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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I have to correct/clarify something in my original post.

I stated that HID's shouldn't be used in the ody because it doesn't come with projectors. The point I was trying to make was that the housing wasn't designed for HID's, projector's or not. That's the problem most people have with installing HID's in civics and other cars that use halogen bulbs.
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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^ I think the most expensive trim of Ody comes with the HID.
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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^ I think the most expensive trim of Ody comes with the HID.
It doesn't. Only the Sienna in XLE Limited AWD trim offers them.
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
It doesn't. Only the Sienna in XLE Limited AWD trim offers them.
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Thanks a lot for your help! How do I find out which kit was designed for the car? As much as installation go I don't know jackshit , I'll try to find a mechanic or ask TommySalami


clear your pm box, son
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I have to correct/clarify something in my original post.

I stated that HID's shouldn't be used in the ody because it doesn't come with projectors. The point I was trying to make was that the housing wasn't designed for HID's, projector's or not. That's the problem most people have with installing HID's in civics and other cars that use halogen bulbs.
Yeah, when you put HIDs in a regular headlight housing, you'll end up blinding other drivers a lot of the time. Happens to me all the time around here. You can make a cutoff though if you are willing to take the headlight apart
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TommySalami


clear your pm box, son
Done
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
It doesn't. Only the Sienna in XLE Limited AWD trim offers them.
Oops stupid me
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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So... what's your final decision, Mark?

My dad just bought an Ody as well. I was thinking of installing HID on it for him. Judging by most of suggestions here, I'm assuming, installing those slightly brighter bulbs are the best bet..

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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
So... what's your final decision, Mark?

My dad just bought an Ody as well. I was thinking of installing HID on it for him. Judging by most of suggestions here, I'm assuming, installing those slightly brighter bulbs are the best bet..
Same here. I voted against the HID kit. I get pissed off when a car with an HID kit is behind me at night, you simply cannot look in the rearview. Either way I'm getting the SilverStars or leave it stock. It's a nice ride for a van too...There are a few cars I'd pass up for an Ody.
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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Yeah, I think I'm just gonna put those SilverStars to increase the night vision a little. My dad previously had 07 Sienna, and he says this Ody is much much better than Sienna in terms of driving experience and pretty much everything else.

It drives nothing like a minivan. So much low-end torque is being put down through 3.5
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
Yeah, I think I'm just gonna put those SilverStars to increase the night vision a little. My dad previously had 07 Sienna, and he says this Ody is much much better than Sienna in terms of driving experience and pretty much everything else.

It drives nothing like a minivan. So much low-end torque is being put down through 3.5
I find the ECO VCM mode very funny though, It only comes one when you're not touching the accelerator. Whenever you accelerate slighlty or significantly it goes off. It should work when stopped in traffic. Also don't like the fact how it just pops on or off all the time.
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
I find the ECO VCM mode very funny though, It only comes one when you're not touching the accelerator. Whenever you accelerate slighlty or significantly it goes off. It should work when stopped in traffic. Also don't like the fact how it just pops on or off all the time.
That's my #1 complaint about the van. Any VERY light fluctuation in throttle pressure disengages the ECO mode. I've noticed this sooo many times I've driven my parents ody.

They should have had a dial to coincide with it where peopel can adjust it's sensitivity.

All around though, it's a great vehicle. If and when the times comes, if we need a larger vehicle, I wouldn't have a problem buying an Ody.
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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That ECO mode light doesn't have to do with VCM. It's just there as a guide to try and get the best gas mileage. It is annoying see that thing blink all the time.
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
If they dont come with Xenons from the factory then you need to add a kit.

Not sure what size they take though.

Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.

I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.

Big ass to that!

I had 6000k in the CL and in the rain it was just stupid.
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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I'm not crazy about kits due to like one member said before about the glaze and on-coming traffic flipping their lights at you.
now if the car owner is still saying to do it I'd go with a 10,000K
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