G

Man, that just sucks, sorry to hear about all your trouble.

CLpower

Anyone notice the new screen that pops up when you place a bid? Saying it's a law abiding contract and both seller and buyer must complete transaction. You are getting a deal here, i'd take it to the courts.


did you call the GM?

CLpower

They sure as hell do as per ebay rules

here is the confirmation when you bid

"You are agreeing to a contract -- You will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller if you're the winning bidder. You are responsible for reading the full item listing, including the seller's instructions and accepted payment methods. Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item.


"

CLpower

I say you call and say you have a lawyer involved for the hell of it

Satin Slayer

Hahaha...deadbeat seller.

1 negative feedback from civic4982 decimated their feedback rating to 66.7%

acura1983

that hurts bro....

acura1983

wat did he exactly say about the transaction?

civic4982

Yes, I've spoken to the VP of the company even. She says she won't sell it to me.

If you all would like here is their info to voice your opinions:

Contact Franklin Hunt for more information.
Toll-Free:
888-248-9313
Phone:
702-252-8800
Mobile:
702-327-8653

infinitisales@towbinauto.com

I'll continue trying through ebay and square trade as well as the Better Business Bureau. In court I have not taken any damages so I cannot yet sue. We'll see about that after Ebay and Squaretrade are done.

Chopsie

Damn Vinh this really sucks. That is one hell of a deal man. I can't believe they are breaking the "binding contract" like this.
They Fux0r3d up, why does that mean you the one in the right has to suffer the consequences ?~!?!?
This blows

Come on Folks, lets rip this dealership a new one! Let the Contacting begin

18anatak

I'm down to call.

kevin79925

actually i been chattin w her on aim and catching up on old times... she lives in a diff town tho.. good thing tho is we speak the same language..

KCPreki11

Civic, you should put up an auction for a G35 just like theirs. Start it really low to attract as much attention as possible. Then in the inside put your story about the dealership and fuck them.

mclarenf3387

Fuck the dealer. You're rigt about it not being worth it, now you should just do as much as possible to fuck their reputation. Call Nissan/Infinity of America and tell them. Notifying the BBB and Ebay right away was good. Now post this shit all over the net. G35 forums, everywhere. And list the VIN and tell people don't buy the car because they backed out of a LEGALY BINDING contract. LIke others have said, if you backed out if it went for 40k they sure as hell would be pissed. I also like KCPreki's idea about the ebay auction.

civic4982

ok I just got a e-mail of them denying to sell me the car. I have forwarded that to ebay and they are working on it now. Squaretrade has not gotten back to me yet.

CLpower

what is squaretrade?

CLpower

hey civic, you commin back out here htis summer?

civic4982

I moved out here I've been in OC for 3 months now.

civic4982

well looks like ebay has let them get away. I forwarded them the e-mail and headers from internetsales@towbininfiniti.com . however, the front company for towbin infiniti that was in the auction was ebizautos and so ebay has told me they will not pursue the non-selling seller report.

I suppose there really isn't anything left to do...

18anatak

Fuck them bro. Fuck them. What bullshit. Its not even me, and i'm pissed off.

KCPreki11

DO IT!!!

CLpower

no shit, change your location :P

where abouts are ya now?

civic4982

I just sent a long complaint to the local TV station there:

http://www.ktnv.com/

gdubb

So your saying Ebay is doing NOTHING at all about this? Could you turn Ebay into the BBB for this as well now with them not wanting to help a customer complaint.

jts1207

http://g35driver.com/forums/showflat...sed&sb=5&part=


Its starting to make the rounds.

Mr Hyde

Keep an eye on their auctions, and for the next car, bid it up to Infinity as a nice Fuck You to them. They wasted your time; paybacks a bitch.

I'm Rick James, B*tch

Maybe there is something we could all do? Does anyone have some sort of experience in media coverage? Maybe you can totally screw them over somehow with negative media coverage that they might be willing to take the loss. Of course, it would be nice if you lived in visiting distance of the dealership but oh well.

civic4982

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...9&page=1&pp=50some things have already begun on this forum.

they've complained to the dealer as well as infiniti and other media outlets.

I've let 3 TV stations in Vegas know about the matter as well as teh Las Vegas Review Journal and Las Vegas Sun.

CLUofI

the car isnt on their used car inventory, hopefully they didnt sell it to someone else. Has anyone stopped by to see if its even still there?

Shawn S

I wish you luck in your revenge campaign, but I doubt you’ll get very far.
There is a disclaimer in their auction that they can end the sale if the car is previously sold.
If anyone at the dealership has half a brain they will quickly trade the car to another dealer and say it isn’t for sale anymore.
That's cheaper for them then selling it for your winning bid or dealing with a lawsuit.

CLpower

I think they have to close the auction if they sell it on the side.

F900

Next Auction they have, lets run it up $$$$$$$$$$$$, and not pay lol

NiteQwill

It already has an owner? http://www.carfax.com/cfm/ccc_Displa...nershipHistory

civic4982

it says dealership owns it

Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:
01/15/2003 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Farmington, MI
First owner reported
Registered as
corporate fleet vehicle
09/14/2004 26,765 Auto Auction
Sold at auction
in Illinois
Listed as
a manufacturer vehicle
10/03/2004 Dealer Inventory
Las Vegas, NV
Vehicle offered for sale

civic4982

I probably won't get very far. Hence the reason I won't be going to an attorney unless I think I can win (not likely). Therefore all I can do is give them hell and complain to every consumer protection agency I can find. I think just letting them off the hook would be careless and they'll just do it again. At least reaching out to other members I can let them know of the shady dealings by this dealer.

mclarenf3387

Have you called Infinity to complain about their conduct?
I know you won't get anywhere with them really either, but the more you can fuck their reptuation, the better as your right, you probably won't get anywhere suing them.

KCPreki11

Civic, don't you have any friends who work as attorneys?

There is so much pondering going on in this thread. This deals w/ thousands of dollars. Get a definitve answer from a couple of people/institutions so you know exactly if you could win or if it's a waste of time.

bimmer88

That's a pretty good idea... do it on all their auctions... hahaha... any updates?

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Here's what I wrote to them. Also saw this on NASIOC. Hopefully this will get out of control (in a good way) like it did with Mark Mitsubishi.

ATTN: General Manager

To Whom It May Concern:

I have recently come across the story of a fellow automotive enthusiast bidding on a 2003 Infiniti G35 coupe. He won the auction at the price of 23,600 dollars (reference, auction #2498214998, but I'm sure you already know what this is about by now).

As an avid eBay user, I have looked through the auction and everything looked legitimate... except for the shady business practices of Towbin Infiniti. Simply put, you just do not want to sell the car at this price because it would create a loss for you in the transaction. While that is unfortunate for you, let me tell you that eBay auctions are legal binding contracts.

You cannot just blame it on human error (yours words; what human error, anyway?) and refuse to sell the vehicle to the rightful winning bidder. If the situation had been reversed, you would track down the winning bidder and make him pay.

I am not going to make this any longer, because businesses such as yours disgust me. But I will end this E-mail on a couple of notes. First, do not underestimate the power of the Internet message boards and their automotive enthusiasts. Last time something like this happened, the dealership went through hell and eventually paid for their actions. Go ahead and look it up yourself -- their name was Mark Mitsubishi and it was the exact same situation as now. The dealership refused to sell the vehicle to the rightful winning bidder because the price was not what they wanted.

Second and last, it seems that you have already received bad reputation in the past, and been questioned for your shady business practices. Let me provide you with the links to these stories for your convenience.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../23163209.html

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../22969690.html

http://www.reviewjournal.com/message...num=1081548019

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1

http://www.dealerrater.com/dealer/de...dealerid=13874


I am pleased to say that even though it has only been a few days, many fellow message board members have contacted the appropriate government agencies and Infiniti headquarters to look into the matter. Also I am quite sure that Las Vegas Review Journal, along with many other channels of media, would love to hear of this story. It will be another story to reveal to the general public just how shady your business has been in the past, and still is now. Mark Mitsubishi legally and socially suffered for weeks and weeks for their bad actions. This case is no different from the above for us automotive enthusiasts. We are sick of dealerships like you pulling stunts, and we are going to do everything we can to fix the situation, just like we did with Mark Mitsubishi.

Have a nice day, and good luck with your shady business.

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

I wrote to BBB, Mitsubishi HQ, and the GM of the dealership when Mark Mitsubishi was questioned for their shady practices. I focking hate dealership bullshit like this.

I'm going to watch what happens on NASIOC for a day or two, and if necessary, I'll most likely write to Infiniti HQ, BBB, and the Attorney General.

moomaster_99

So any updates???