HELP Ebay Car Dealer BASTARD
11-04-2004, 01:09 PM
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HELP Ebay Car Dealer BASTARD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2498214998
I won this auction fair and square.
Now the guy Franklin at the dealership refuses to sell it to me for the price I won it for.
Anybody know what I can do about this?
I won this auction fair and square.
Now the guy Franklin at the dealership refuses to sell it to me for the price I won it for.
Anybody know what I can do about this?
11-04-2004, 01:47 PM
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The car is worth almost $33k so I can understand the dealership not wanting to sell it for $23,6. Read the ebay rules and see if the dealer is in the right. Sometimes you can back out of a sale. If they are wrong go to ebay and have them take action. You might be able to get the dealer blacklisted on ebay so they can't sell online anymore. good luck
11-04-2004, 01:51 PM
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Anyone remember that other guy who won the STI auction and the dealer renegged? There was this huge thread on another board and people jumped on board and started calling the dealer, stopping by, harassing them to sell the car at the price it was won. I think the kid ended up getting it too. And the internet sales manager lost his job.
I'd call the gm of the dealership and BITCH!!
11-04-2004, 02:17 PM
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A seller that refuses to proceed with a sale like this is against eBay policy.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...ng-seller.html
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...ng-seller.html
11-04-2004, 02:19 PM
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Damb, that really sucks. Make sure you printout and save a copy of the auction for safekeeping.
I was under the impression a ebay auction was a legal binding contract to sell/purchase...
B.T.W nice deal!!!
I was under the impression a ebay auction was a legal binding contract to sell/purchase...
B.T.W nice deal!!!
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11-04-2004, 03:03 PM
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You're gonna have to drag this one out. Thats a good deal. It is a binding contract, and i'm sure he'd throw a fit if the car reached $43k and You refused to pay. I'm sure he'd throw out all this legal stuff at ya, Ebay rules, etc etc. So do it to him. Call the GM first, and see what happens there. If no luck, report him to Ebay, etc etc to whoever you can. Might want to try a lawyer, just to see what he says if the earlier attempts dont work.
BTW, if you list a car with no reserve, thats your choice, dont be a bitch and not sell when you didnt get what you wanted for it.
BTW, if you list a car with no reserve, thats your choice, dont be a bitch and not sell when you didnt get what you wanted for it.
11-04-2004, 03:23 PM
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Yeah, if he didnt list it with a reserve price or put some clause in the item auction that he reserves the right to end the auction at any time, then he should have to sell the car at that price. (But he didnt end it he let it end with someone winning it)
I would stick with it and stay on him about it.
I would stick with it and stay on him about it.
11-04-2004, 03:38 PM
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Agree with everyone on here....call the GM and if he bitches DEMAND to speak to the owner. If he still isnt flinching tell him that if he doesnt agree to the sale within 48 hours he will be hearing from your lawyer and ebay about the dealers business practices. Just what I would do...good luck.
11-04-2004, 03:40 PM
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Call them and see what they say. If that doesn't work I'm sure we can all get this around the net VERY VERY quick!
11-04-2004, 04:04 PM
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they refuse to sell me the car. thus far I've only filed with Squaretrade and Ebay to complain. I am getting some advice from an Emory Law School professor on contract law.
I'll update more later.
I'll update more later.
i wanna see how this goes.
11-04-2004, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by derelict
Anyone remember that other guy who won the STI auction and the dealer renegged? There was this huge thread on another board and people jumped on board and started calling the dealer, stopping by, harassing them to sell the car at the price it was won. I think the kid ended up getting it too. And the internet sales manager lost his job.
we should do this if normal civil tactics don't work, good luck getting the car, good deal
11-04-2004, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by civic4982
they refuse to sell me the car.
best comment in this thread 
11-04-2004, 09:24 PM
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there is nothing in the "details of bidding" that say anything about refusing sale after aucting has ended. it does say they can befre the aucting ends though but that makes no difference.
If we ever fail to live up to your expectations in any way, please feel free to contact me directly.
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call her and see what she says
If we ever fail to live up to your expectations in any way, please feel free to contact me directly.
Sincerely,
Carolynn Towbin
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call her and see what she says
11-04-2004, 11:22 PM
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Funny thing is, I've seen how our boy civic4982 works. He will get the car for the price he won it for, sell it for a 7K to 8K profit and go buy the CL-S 6speed he was gonna get anyway. I'm rootin for your man! Make them sell ya the car!
11-05-2004, 12:47 AM
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call your local news station that has a consumer help program and see if they can help. with some luck, your story gets run and the "stealer" gets shamed and bad publicity.
11-05-2004, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bl^5
Funny thing is, I've seen how our boy civic4982 works. He will get the car for the price he won it for, sell it for a 7K to 8K profit and go buy the CL-S 6speed he was gonna get anyway. I'm rootin for your man! Make them sell ya the car!
?but yeah just filed wit better business bureau tonight also done with squaretrade and ebay ike I mentioned above.
next for me is to speak to a consumer protection part of a news station around here somewhere. I doubt that they'll help but worth a shot.
I'm gonna have to see how much a lawyer costs. I may go ahead and do it but only after I've exhausted all other possibilities.
I'm going to call the VP Carolyn Towbin tomorrow and talk to her directly.
11-05-2004, 10:15 AM
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sure... I'll centralize my other treads to this board...
maybe we can find someone local in Vegas to verify that the car is not yet sold in case they try to pull some BS like that.
it's Towbin Infiniti in Las Vegas, NV
maybe we can find someone local in Vegas to verify that the car is not yet sold in case they try to pull some BS like that.
it's Towbin Infiniti in Las Vegas, NV
11-05-2004, 02:25 PM
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I spoke with the VP this morning she said that they do not have to "accept your bid" on this auction. I.E. DEAD BEAT SELLERS.
I will take this to court next.
I will take this to court next.
11-05-2004, 03:12 PM
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i would avoid putting this all over the web for as long as possible, it will only create headaches when people are at the dealership harrasing the salesman and what not.
Get a lawyer-go from there.
Get a lawyer-go from there.
11-05-2004, 03:20 PM
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I thought this was funny on the auction page
Maybe we all need to let Carol and her dealership have it.
If we ever fail to live up to your expectations in any way, please feel free to contact me directly.
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Carolynn Towbin
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11-05-2004, 03:43 PM
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11-05-2004, 04:01 PM
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Fucking sucks...
That's a hell of a deal. I'd gladly spend a bucks on a lawyer to make them provide the car to you... You'd still make out on it.
That's a hell of a deal. I'd gladly spend a bucks on a lawyer to make them provide the car to you... You'd still make out on it.
11-05-2004, 05:10 PM
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Well I haven't spoken to any lawyers yet but from my online research it seems since I have not taken any damages nor loss then I really do not have a case. This is a really shitty situation but I don't know if even a lawyer can win this case.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
11-05-2004, 05:17 PM
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hey civic4982 omg i was looking at margaret's xanga and i saw your username and i thought i recognized it.. clicked on it and yep you had complained about the winning bid on xanga.. hahah small world... didnt know you knew her. shes hot... hook me up! i knew her back when we both used to live in amarillo a long time ago.
11-05-2004, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin79925
hey civic4982 omg i was looking at margaret's xanga and i saw your username and i thought i recognized it.. clicked on it and yep you had complained about the winning bid on xanga.. hahah small world... didnt know you knew her. shes hot... hook me up! i knew her back when we both used to live in amarillo a long time ago.
... good luck
11-06-2004, 07:04 AM
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Civic, I would still call that lady and tell her that you have spoken to your lawyer and see if she bites. If they know you have a lawyer and are threatening them it might be a little different even though you dont have one.
This should work because EBAY auctions work as contracts, and they have broken their side of the contract as they are refusing to sell you the car. It was their fault they didnt put down a reserve price.
Best of luck and keep us posted.
This should work because EBAY auctions work as contracts, and they have broken their side of the contract as they are refusing to sell you the car. It was their fault they didnt put down a reserve price.
Best of luck and keep us posted.
11-06-2004, 09:46 AM
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well I went ahead and talked to a few lawyers and even checked out forum.freeadvice.com . the guys there and on ebay forums say the same thing. file BBB, ebay complaint, and squaretrade then take it like a man as a loss.
because of the complications it's really not worth it to go after this car dealer.
yes this will happen again to others and they will still be powerless because of the laws across states to enforce breach of contract. I will spend thousands on a lawyer to actually go to Nevada and sue them and in the end I'll probably lose due to the fact that the court cannot force them to sell me the car or rather will not. Nobody cares and I suppose I've done all the research I need to realize that.
This is the last time I purchase a large item from ebay again.
because of the complications it's really not worth it to go after this car dealer.
yes this will happen again to others and they will still be powerless because of the laws across states to enforce breach of contract. I will spend thousands on a lawyer to actually go to Nevada and sue them and in the end I'll probably lose due to the fact that the court cannot force them to sell me the car or rather will not. Nobody cares and I suppose I've done all the research I need to realize that.
This is the last time I purchase a large item from ebay again.