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Old 04-11-2005, 11:14 AM
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Give me your picks...

These are a must for my new/used ride... can be a car or SUV

1.) Interior space (50/100 points)... for a 6'5, 280 fat ass
2.) Need at least 300 horses (20/100 points)
3.) Must have a stick shift (15/100 points)
4.) Would like RWD (10/100 points)
5.) Like to have NAV and sunroof (5/100 points)

Bonus Points:

20 points... under $50K
10 points... gas mileage of highway of over 30 mpg


Any suggestions?
Old 04-11-2005, 11:23 AM
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Infinity M45!
Old 04-11-2005, 11:24 AM
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used m5

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Only a used 5-series or used M5 fits your bill. No other sedan maker in the US currently has a V8 mated to a manual tranny.

As for SUVs, you have no choices. I don't think there's been an SUV with a V8 and a manual tranny on sale in the US for at least a decade.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Only a used 5-series or used M5 fits your bill. No other sedan maker in the US currently has a V8 mated to a manual tranny.

As for SUVs, you have no choices. I don't think there's been an SUV with a V8 and a manual tranny on sale in the US for at least a decade.
V8???
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V8???
What sedan with at least 300 hp and a manual tranny do you know of that doesn't have a V8 engine?
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Only a used 5-series or used M5 fits your bill. No other sedan maker in the US currently has a V8 mated to a manual tranny.

CTS-V
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
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Oops...I stand corrected. Completely forgot about that one...good catch

But it's a little more expensive than this self imposed price ceiling, isn't it?
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yes, just barely...I think it starts at $51,000.

but other than that I think you are right....I can't think of a single manual v8 sedan made in the US.


thats pretty sad.
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I test drove a M5... great car except my knees hit the dash between clutch changes. I need a little more space. The CTS-V had alot of clearance; a 2004 version may make the grade.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
What sedan with at least 300 hp and a manual tranny do you know of that doesn't have a V8 engine?
Volvo S60R has 300hp from an I-5
edit: and 6spd manual

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Old 04-11-2005, 01:33 PM
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M5 of ctsv
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CTS-V end of discussion
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Audi S4 (Just about 50K, can probably get way under on an 04 or old style 05)
Pontiac GTO ( I know, not a sedan... but meets most of the criteria)
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
CTS-V


2004's can be had for 40K from dealers (less from private sellers)... The only thing that scares me about buying a CTS-V is that it might actually have a worst depreciation curve then my CLS
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well I'm gonna get flamed for this I bet:
WRX Sti. it's 300 hp AWD and a stick. and it's only about 30 grand plenty left in the bank.(plus tons of aftermarket tuners out there for it).

the rival to the Sti is the Evo 8(however i'd wait on the Evo 9) MR edition
it's 276 hp. stick and AWD. once again plenty of money left in the bank and plenty of aftermarket tuners out there.

however if you wanna get away from the "boy racer image"
C55 AMG will set you back 55 grand. it's 362 hp and RWD no stick it has the AMG short shift. but it's an amazing car. not as much following and your bank account saying "OUCH"
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
Infinity M45!
car is bad ass... not manual, but fits the rest of the specs nicely, i am not sure if the tiptronic is decent or sucks like in my fx...


but its infinitI
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Originally Posted by Professor
These are a must for my new/used ride... can be a car or SUV

1.) Interior space (50/100 points)... for a 6'5, 280 fat ass
2.) Need at least 300 horses (20/100 points)
3.) Must have a stick shift (15/100 points)
4.) Would like RWD (10/100 points)
5.) Like to have NAV and sunroof (5/100 points)

Bonus Points:

20 points... under $50K
10 points... gas mileage of highway of over 30 mpg


Any suggestions?

and ironically i think the g35 6 speed sedan fits the bill even better...

1) i'm a 6'5" 230 lb fat ass, formerly in the 275 range and i fit in it fine
2) 298 hp close enough?
3) check
4) check
5) check and check

bonus 1) couldn't hit 40k from the dealer if you tried (check)
bonus 2) 26 mpg but i think 30 mpg is almost smoking crack from a 300hp rear wheel drive car from anyone (half check)

1) 50
2) 19.867 (298/300)
3) 15
4) 10
5) 5
a) 20
b) 8.667 (26/30)

grand total of 128.537 for probably around 35k and you could always just supercharge the piece to make it just as fast for still in the low 40k range

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Originally Posted by 03typeS6spd
and ironically i think the g35 6 speed sedan fits the bill even better...


The G35 still interests me... I can't wait to see what they do with a redesign (2007??).

Alot of the Professors buying critera are like mine.

I think my experiment is done with FWD. With LSD in the 6spd, torguesteer isn't that bad, but it bothers me more now then when I first got the car. There aren't that many cars out there that interest me except the new Mustang, CTS-V, BMW 330, and G35 (all RWD).
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How about this new CTS-V with 540HP S/C that comes with a warranty:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...543383918&rd=1


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540 6 Speed, if you don't want to dish out the money for an M5.
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