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Old 05-25-2005, 06:02 PM
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Favorite vehicle from each brand...

Can be either a currently produced car or SUV. (Also can be a sport version ie. AMG, M, S, etc.)

Acura - TL
Audi - A8
BMW - M3
Cadillac - Escalade
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJR
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Laredo
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - 6
Mercedes - SL65
Nissan - 350Z Track
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Toyota - New Tacoma
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Acura - RL
Audi - A8 W12
BMW - M5
Cadillac - XLR-V
Chevrolet - SSR
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Magnum R/T
Ford - GT
Honda - Accord Coupe EX V6 6spd
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJ Super V8
Jeep - Wrangler Rubicon
Lexus - SC430
Mazda - Mazdaspeed RX-8
Mercedes - SL65 AMG
Nissan - Titan
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Subaru - WRX STi
Toyota -
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Acura - TL
Audi - A8
BMW - z8
Cadillac - XLR
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - Crossfire
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - NSX
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJR
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Laredo
Lexus - GS430
Mazda -
Mercedes - SL65
Nissan - 350Z Track
Porsche - Carrera GT
Toyota - Titan V8
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Acura - RL
Audi - A8 L
BMW - M5
Cadillac - STS-V
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300C SRT-8
Dodge - Viper GTS
Ford - Fuck Ford
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - FX45
Jaguar - S-Type R
Jeep - Not a big fan of any of their cars.
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - Miata
Mercedes - S65 AMG
Nissan - 350Z
Porsche - Carrera GT
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Acura - TL 6spd
Audi - A3
BMW - 645i/Ci
Cadillac - CTS-V
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Magnum R/T
Ford - upcoming Mustang GT500
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - G35C 6spd
Jaguar - none
Jeep - none
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - miata
Mercedes - SL55
Nissan - 350ZR Track
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Toyota - Matrix XRS
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Acura - CL type S, nsx
Audi - RS4
BMW - 645i/Ci
Cadillac - none
Chevrolet - none
Chrysler - none
Dodge - none
Ford - none
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - none
Jaguar - none
Jeep - none
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - mazadaspeed rx8
Mercedes - SLR
Nissan - none
Porsche - Carrera GT
Toyota - Supra
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Acura - NSX
Audi - RS6
BMW - M5
Cadillac - STS-V
Chevrolet - C6 Z06
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Hummer - H1 Alpha
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJ Super V8
Jeep - Grand Cherokee SRT-8
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - MPS6
Mercedes - SLR
Mitsubishi - EVO MR
Nissan - 350Z Track
Pontiac - GTO
Porsche - Carrera GT
Subaru - STI
Toyota -
Old 05-25-2005, 06:53 PM
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Acura - CLS 6spd
Audi - meh
BMW - M3
Cadillac - CTS-V
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - meh
Dodge - RAM pick'em up
Ford - Mustang
Honda - Accord EX V6 6mt coupe
Infiniti - G35c 6mt
Jaguar - meh
Jeep - meh
Lexus - meh
Mazda - meh
Mercedes - meh
Nissan - 350Z Touring 6mt
Porsche - 1973 911 2.7 RS (or anything aircooled)
Toyota - Scion Xb
Old 05-25-2005, 07:58 PM
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Acura - CLS 6spd
Audi - RS6
BMW - 645Ci
Cadillac - STS-V
Chevrolet - corvette
Chrysler - 300C SRT-8
Dodge - magnum r/t
Ford - cobra
Honda - n/a
Infiniti - fx45
Jaguar - s type r
Jeep - grand cherokee limited...hemi plz
Lexus - gs430
Mazda - masdaspeed 6
Mercedes - clk500...not a crowd fav...but i love them
Nissan - 350Z
Porsche - 911tt
Toyota - Scion Xb
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Acura - RL
Audi - RS6
BMW - M5
Cadillac - Escalade
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300C
Dodge - Viper
Ford - n/a
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - n/a
Jeep - Rubicon
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - n/a
Mercedes - SL65 AMG
Nissan - Skyline
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Toyota - n/a
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Acura - TSX
Audi - S8
BMW - M3
Cadillac - XLR-V
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300C
Dodge - Viper
Ford - Mustang Cobra
Honda - S2000/Accord V6 6MT
Infiniti - G35C
Jaguar - XK
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Limited HEMI
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - 6S
Mercedes - S55 AMG
Nissan - Z Roadster
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Toyota - none
Old 05-25-2005, 08:33 PM
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Acura - TSX (of course)
Audi - RS6
BMW - Z8
Cadillac - XLR-V
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - Crossfire SRT6
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - G35C
Jaguar - XK
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Limited Hemi
Lexus - SC430
Mazda - RX8
Mercedes - SL65
Nissan - 350Z
Porsche - Carrera GT
Toyota - MR2 (I guess)
Old 05-25-2005, 08:36 PM
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Acura - NSX
Audi - A6
BMW - M5
Cadillac - STS-V
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300C SRT-8
Dodge - Charger SRT-8
Ford - Mustang
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - G35
Jaguar - S-Type R
Jeep - Cherokee
Lexus - EWWWW
Mazda - 6
Mercedes - CLS 55
Nissan - 350Z
Porsche - Carrera GT
Old 05-25-2005, 09:27 PM
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Acura - TL
Audi - S4
BMW - M5
Cadillac - Escalade
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - Crossfire SRT-6
Dodge - Viper SRT-10
Ford - Mustang Cobra
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - FX45
Jaguar - S-Type R
Jeep - Grand Cherokee SRT-8
Lexus - LS430
Mazda - 3s
Mercedes - E55 AMG
Nissan - Altima SE-R
Porsche - GT2
Toyota - Avalon
Old 05-25-2005, 09:42 PM
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Acura - RL
Audi - A8
BMW - M5
Cadillac - STS
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJR
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Laredo
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - RX8
Mercedes - SL65 AMG
Nissan - 350Z Track
Porsche - GT2
Toyota - Supra
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Acura - NSX
Audi - RS6
BMW - M6
Cadillac - XLR-V
Chevrolet - C6 z06
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Viper
Ford - Cobra
Honda - Civic hybrid
Infiniti - FX45
Jaguar - XJR
Jeep - SRT8
Lexus - LS430
Mazda - Miata
Mercedes - CLS55
Nissan - 350z
Porsche - Carrera GT
Subaru - Legacy GT
Toyota - Prius


I think that sums it up.
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Acura - NSX
Audi - RS4
BMW - M6 (soon, soon)
Cadillac - XLR
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - FX45
Jaguar - XKR
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Laredo
Lexus - SC430
Mazda - RX8
Mercedes - SL65
Nissan - Armada
Porsche - turbo
Toyota - Sequoia
Old 05-25-2005, 10:03 PM
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Acura - NSX(are you stupid!)
Audi - S4
BMW - X5
Cadillac - XLR-V
Chevrolet - Z06
Chrysler - SRT-10
Dodge - SRT-4
Ford - five hundred
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - G35x 6spd, FX45
Jaguar - they all suck
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Columbia 5.7L Hemi
Lexus - SC430
Mazda - Mazdaspeed RX-8
Mercedes - S500
Nissan - Murano
Porsche - Chayenne Turbo S
Subaru - WRX STi
Toyota - Celica GT-S
Old 05-25-2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
Acura - TL
Audi - A8
BMW - z8
Cadillac - XLR
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - Crossfire
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - NSX
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJR
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Laredo
Lexus - GS430
Mazda -
Mercedes - SL65
Nissan - 350Z Track
Porsche - Carrera GT
Toyota - Titan V8
Toyota Titan huh? I hear that's a nice...er...um...what?
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Acura - NSX
Audi - S6
BMW - NEW M5
Cadillac - XLR
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300C Hemi
Dodge - Viper
Ford - Cobra
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - G35 Coupe
Jaguar - XJR
Jeep - Grand Cherokee HEMI
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - RX8
Mercedes - CLK AMG
Nissan - 350Z Track
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Toyota - Tacoma
Old 05-25-2005, 10:20 PM
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Ok, so, it has to be currrently in production huh? Ok...

Acura - TL
Audi - S4
BMW - OLD M3
Cadillac - XLR
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300 SRT-8
Dodge - Magnum SRT-8
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - G35 Coupe 6spd
Jaguar - XK8
Jeep - Wrangler
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - Mazda6 5door
Mercedes - SL65
Mitsubishi - Evo
Nissan - 350Z
Pontiac - G6
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Subaru - WRX STi
Toyota -
Old 05-25-2005, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
Can be either a currently produced car or SUV. (Also can be a sport version ie. AMG, M, S, etc.)

Acura - TL
Audi - A8
BMW - M3
Cadillac - Escalade
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler -
Dodge - SRT-4 Neon
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJR
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Laredo
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - 6
Mercedes - SL65
Nissan - 350Z Track
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Toyota - New Tacoma
Acura - TL
Audi - A6
BMW-z4
Cadillac - Escalade ext
Chevrolet - Silverado 2500 HD with the Duramax/Allison combo
Chrysler - none
Dodge - SRT-4
Ford - f-350 single rear wheel 4 door ranch king,4x4 with the powerstroke diesel
Honda - Ridgeline
Infiniti - G35
Jaguar - s type R
Jeep - whenever they come out with that little pickup or until then the Wrangler Unlimited
Lexus - ES330
Mazda - RX-8
Mercedes - e55 amg
Nissan - either Sentra Spec V Se-r or Altima Spec V SE-R
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Toyota - I guess the land cruiser.
Old 05-25-2005, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
Acura - RL
Audi - A8 W12
BMW - M5
Cadillac - XLR-V
Chevrolet - SSR
Chrysler - 300 SRT8
Dodge - Magnum R/T
Ford - GT
Honda - Accord Coupe EX V6 6spd
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XJ Super V8
Jeep - Wrangler Rubicon
Lexus - SC430
Mazda - Mazdaspeed RX-8
Mercedes - SL65 AMG
Nissan - Titan
Porsche - 911 Turbo S
Subaru - WRX STi
Toyota -

SSR? Are you kidding me? I didn't know there were people out there who like those.
Old 05-25-2005, 10:31 PM
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Acura - cl-s
Audi - rs6
BMW - M3
Cadillac - CTS-V
Chevrolet - Corvette z06
Chrysler - 300C SRT-8
Dodge - Viper
Ford - cobra
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - g35c
Jaguar - S-Type R
Jeep - srt 8 gc
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - rx-8
Mercedes - SL65 AMG
Nissan - 350Z
Porsche - Carrera GT
Ferrari: Enzo
Old 05-25-2005, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AcuraFan
SSR? Are you kidding me? I didn't know there were people out there who like those.

I can't fit into the fucking C6, and my dad really likes the SSR, so I'd give it to him.
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Originally Posted by Minch00
I can't fit into the fucking C6, and my dad really likes the SSR, so I'd give it to him.
Is it just the C6 or can you not fit into any of them? (just curious)
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Switch it up a little..Dream cars

ACURA- NSX
BMW- M6 CONVERTABLE
BENZ- SL 55 AMG
LEXUS- GS 430
CADILLAC - ESCALADE
GMC- DENALI
LAMBO- MURCEALIGO CONVERTABLE
FERRARI- 430
ASTON MARTIN- VANQUISH
MASERATI- QUATROPORTTE
BENTLEY- AZURE CONVERTABLE
PORSHE- CAYENNE TURBO
AUDI- RS6
DODGE- HENNESSEY VIPER
CHEVY- C6
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Acura - NSX
Audi - A8
BMW - M5
Cadillac - CTS-V
Chevrolet - Corvette Z06
Chrysler - Crossfire SRT
Dodge - Viper
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - M45 Sport
Jaguar - XKR
Jeep - None
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - RX8
Mercedes - SL55
Nissan - Skyline GTR
Porsche - Carrera GT
Toyota - Supra around 600rwhp
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Acura - RL
Audi - A8
BMW - M5
Cadillac - No thanks
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - No thanks
Dodge - No thanks
Ford - Mustang GT
Honda - Oddyssey (if I need a minivan, I have to pick the best)
Infiniti - G35
Jaguar - XJ8
Jeep - No thanks
Lexus - LS430
Mazda - RX-8
Mercedes - SL65
Nissan - Armada
Porsche - 911 Carrera S
Toyota - 4 runner
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Acura - TSX
Audi - S4
BMW - 645I
Cadillac - CTS-V
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - 300c
Dodge - Viper Truck
Ford - GT
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - FX45 AWD
Jaguar - XKR
Jeep - Wrangler Rubicon
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - RX-8
Mercedes - C55 AMG
Nissan - 350Z
Porsche - 911 turbo
Toyota -
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Acura - NSX
Audi - RS4
BMW - M5
Cadillac - CTSV
Chevrolet - Corvette
Chrysler - Don't know much about
Dodge - Viper
Ford - Lightning
Honda - S2000
Infiniti - M45 Sport (FX45 a close second)
Jaguar - S Type R
Jeep - Grand Cherokee Laredo
Lexus - GS430
Mazda - RX7
Mercedes - E55
Mitsubishi - Evo VIII
Nissan - 350Z Track
Porsche - GT3
Toyota - Supra
Volvo - S60R

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Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Acura RL A-Spec
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish S
BMW 760iL
Cadillac XLR
Chevrolet C6 Z06
Ferrari F430 Spider
Ford GT
Honda NSX-R
Infiniti G35C 6MT
Jaguar XJR
Lamborghini Murciélago R-GT.
Mazda 5
Mercedes Benz SL65 AMG
Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR
Nismo R34 GT-R Z-Tune (http://www.nismo.co.jp/Z-tune/index.html)
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
Subaru Forester STi (http://www.subaru.co.jp/forester/stiversion/index.html)
Toyota Crown Athlete (http://toyota.jp/crownathlete/index.html)

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Acura - RL (2005)
Alfa Romeo - GT Coupe (2004)
Aston Marton - V12 Vanquish (2002)
Audi - RS6 (2005)
Bentley - Continental GT (2005)
BMW - 6 Series (2005)
Buick - Riviera {supercharged} (can't remember the latest year)
Cadillac - CTS-V (2005)
Chevrolet - Corvette (2005)
Chrysler - 300C SRT-8 (2005)
Dodge - Viper SRT-10 (2005)
Ferrari - 612 Scaglietti (2004)
Ford - GT (2004)
GMC - Denali (2005)
Honda - S2000 (2003)
Hummer - Hummer (2000)
Hyundai - Tiberon V6 (2005)
Infiniti - M45 (2006)
Jaguar - XKR Convertible (2003)
Jeep - Grand Cherokee (2005)
Kia - Amanti (2005)
Lamborghini - L140 (2004)
Land Rover - LR3 (2005)
Lexus - GS430 (2006)
Lincoln - LS V8 (2005)
Lotus - Elise (2004)
Maserati - Quattroporte (2005)
Mazda - RX8 (2005)
Mercedes - CLS 500 (2005)
Mini - Cooper Convertible (2005)
Mitsubishi - Lancer Evolution VIII (2005)
Nissan - Maxima 3.5SL (2005)
Oldsmobile - Aurora (2001)
Plymouth - Prowler (2000)
Pontiac - Solstice (2006)
Porsche - Carrera GT (2005)
Saab - 9-3 (2005)
Saturn - Vue Red Line (2005) {only because it has a Honda 3.5L V6}
Smart - Fortwo Cabrio (2005)
Subaru - Baja (2005)
Suzuki - Aerio Fastback SX AWD (2005)
Toyota - Avalon XLS (2005)
Volkswagon - Jetta (2006) {the styling looks very good on the 06}
Volvo - S60R (2005)

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Originally Posted by youngTL
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Where's Fiat, bish?
Old 05-26-2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BEETROOT
Where's Fiat, bish?
Ooops, I've never seen a Fiat for sale in Canada. Maybe they were at one time. Except for plymouth and olds i've left out discontinued brands like fiat and daewoo. Oh wait, i didnt think of fiat. I admit it.
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Lexus - GS400
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Acura - RL (2005)
Alfa Romeo - GT Coupe (2004)
Aston Marton - V12 Vanquish (2002)
Audi - RS6 (2005)
Bentley - Continental GT (2005)
BMW - 6 Series (2005)
Buick - Riviera {supercharged} (can't remember the latest year)
Cadillac - CTS-V (2005)
Chevrolet - Corvette (2005)
Chrysler - 300C SRT-8 (2005)
Dodge - Viper SRT-10 (2005)
Ferrari - 612 Scaglietti (2004)
Ford - GT (2004)
GMC - Denali (2005)
Honda - S2000 (2003)
Hummer - Hummer (2000)
Hyundai - Tiberon V6 (2005)
Infiniti - M45 (2006)
Jaguar - XKR Convertible (2003)
Jeep - Grand Cherokee (2005)
Kia - Amanti (2005)
Lamborghini - L140 (2004)
Land Rover - LR3 (2005)
Lexus - GS430 (2006)
Lincoln - LS V8 (2005)
Lotus - Elise (2004)
Maserati - Quattroporte (2005)
Mazda - RX8 (2005)
Mercedes - CLS 500 (2005)
Mini - Cooper Convertible (2005)
Mitsubishi - Lancer Evolution VIII (2005)
Nissan - Maxima 3.5SL (2005)
Oldsmobile - Aurora (2001)
Plymouth - Prowler (2000)
Pontiac - Solstice (2006)
Porsche - Carrera GT (2005)
Saab - 9-3 (2005)
Saturn - Vue Red Line (2005) {only because it has a Honda 3.5L V6}
Smart - Fortwo Cabrio (2005)
Subaru - Baja (2005)
Suzuki - Aerio Fastback SX AWD (2005)
Toyota - Avalon XLS (2005)
Volkswagon - Jetta (2006) {the styling looks very good on the 06}
Volvo - S60R (2005)

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What about AMC, Eagle, Geo, Merkur, Peugeot, Rolls, Yugo? I mean, come on...those are some great cars!
Hell, Mercury and Isuzu are still on the market! (I know, it surprises me too! lol)
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Originally Posted by AcuraFan
What about AMC, Eagle, Geo, Merkur, Peugeot, Rolls, Yugo? I mean, come on...those are some great cars!
Hell, Mercury and Isuzu are still on the market! (I know, it surprises me too! lol)
I would have included them if any of them made a memorable car. Well I guess Eagle made the Talon TSI. Mercury...well there's nothing that really sticks out (Grand Marquis? ). Isuzu I can't even think of any. I think I've seen ONE Isuzu my entire life. I'm not even kidding.

Geo...I guess the Prizm is one of their better cars if you can call it that. Better than the Metro at least.

Never heard of AMC, Peugeot and Yugo don't make cars over here and I've never seen either. Rolls Royce, again I haven't read anything about or seen, but I know they exist. Merkur...well again I've never even seen a picture of one.


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