EiGhT blown 350Z motors on boost!
12-21-2003, 05:44 PM
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EiGhT blown 350Z motors on boost!
the death toll keeps rising. high compression engine+boost= kaboom. #8 is a G35C driven by a chick. 
thread about it on my350z.com
thread about it on my350z.com
12-21-2003, 06:37 PM
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12-21-2003, 08:05 PM
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The CR for the G and Z are the same as my Maxima: 10.3:1. NOT a good CR for running boost. Even the Greddy 350Z is only running @ 5psi.
12-21-2003, 08:43 PM
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12-21-2003, 08:46 PM
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you people crack me the fuck up. 8 blown **PROCHARGED** Z's. The ATI Procharger is the only FI application that's wasting multiple Z engines at the moment. IMHO, most of these failures could have been prevented with a J&S timing box or the likes of....which the procharger kit doesn't include.
12-21-2003, 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
you people crack me the fuck up. 8 blown **PROCHARGED** Z's. The ATI Procharger is the only FI application that's wasting multiple Z engines at the moment. IMHO, most of these failures could have been prevented with a J&S timing box or the likes of....which the procharger kit doesn't include.
you people crack me the fuck up. 8 blown **PROCHARGED** Z's. The ATI Procharger is the only FI application that's wasting multiple Z engines at the moment. IMHO, most of these failures could have been prevented with a J&S timing box or the likes of....which the procharger kit doesn't include.
12-21-2003, 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
you people crack me the fuck up. 8 blown **PROCHARGED** Z's. The ATI Procharger is the only FI application that's wasting multiple Z engines at the moment. IMHO, most of these failures could have been prevented with a J&S timing box or the likes of....which the procharger kit doesn't include.
you people crack me the fuck up. 8 blown **PROCHARGED** Z's. The ATI Procharger is the only FI application that's wasting multiple Z engines at the moment. IMHO, most of these failures could have been prevented with a J&S timing box or the likes of....which the procharger kit doesn't include.
"I own a crawford plenum and want to go FI at some point but this stuff is scary as hell..
"............zeroday
12-21-2003, 09:47 PM
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The VQ is a stout engine. The ATI procharger is the only FI application that has been having problems, but these problems come down to improper tuning. There are many threads on this very subject on the Z sites, and I won't rehash it here.
The VQ is a strong engine, but due to a fairly high compression ratio, it requires reasonable levels of boost and careful tuning. The same thing would happen to the CL's engine if you were trying to push 9+ PSI of boost with improper tuning.
The VQ is a strong engine, but due to a fairly high compression ratio, it requires reasonable levels of boost and careful tuning. The same thing would happen to the CL's engine if you were trying to push 9+ PSI of boost with improper tuning.
12-21-2003, 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
The VQ is a strong engine, but due to a fairly high compression ratio, it requires reasonable levels of boost and careful tuning. The same thing would happen to the CL's engine if you were trying to push 9+ PSI of boost with improper tuning.
The VQ is a strong engine, but due to a fairly high compression ratio, it requires reasonable levels of boost and careful tuning. The same thing would happen to the CL's engine if you were trying to push 9+ PSI of boost with improper tuning.
ATI vice president speaks
in this thread ati's vice president tired to blame the customers for the debacle, and got this angry response:
"#1...This dude souds sooooo*F*'n cocky to me..Like "WE ARE THE SUPERCHARGING GODS!!!HEAR ME SPEAK!!"
#2...I get a kick how he uses The guy running 9lbs with timing control and different injectors, as a frigging sucess case for ATI..HELLO!!!this guy he speaks of is doing that because he was the first one to BLOW his *F*'n engine using their setup....
#3 please PM me I will give him another case of a STOCK Z , with a PROFESSIONALLY installed ATI kit, PROFESSIONALLY dyno tuned with 4 other ATI kits in CT las month, at an A/F RATIO of 12:6-1...Who blew his engine the next day...What will ATI excuse be then..BAD GAS??And this dude does NOT and DID NOT beat his car I was with him when it blew...
#4...If I were an ATI dealer/installer I would be pretty pissed that ATI is blaming them for all this...I wonder if you sent your car to ATI to do the install and tune and blew it who they would blame then???I suppose they blamed everyone but the bank that financed the car to you..."
12-21-2003, 10:21 PM
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you sound so confident on this board, but this is your quote taken from that thread:
"I own a crawford plenum and want to go FI at some point but this stuff is scary as hell.. "
............zeroday
you sound so confident on this board, but this is your quote taken from that thread:
"I own a crawford plenum and want to go FI at some point but this stuff is scary as hell..
"............zeroday
ok newb with your 22 whopping posts I guess you know my demeanor on this board.
you made a sweeping generalization about z's blowing up because of FI and FAILED to mention these failures are ALL on z's with prochargers:
Originally posted by goat
the death toll keeps rising. high compression engine+boost= kaboom. #8 is a G35C driven by a chick.
thread about it on my350z.com
the death toll keeps rising. high compression engine+boost= kaboom. #8 is a G35C driven by a chick.
thread about it on my350z.com
regardless of all this, YES, adding FI to a car I paid nearly 40k for last year is FUCKING SCARY.
12-21-2003, 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
The same thing would happen to the CL's engine if you were trying to push 9+ PSI of boost with improper tuning.
The same thing would happen to the CL's engine if you were trying to push 9+ PSI of boost with improper tuning.
12-21-2003, 10:53 PM
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a car I paid nearly 40k for...
a car I paid nearly 40k for...
holy
batman!
12-21-2003, 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
This first post insinuated that Z's can't handle FI.
This first post insinuated that Z's can't handle FI.
That conclusion was based on procharged Z's failing. Does that mean all FI implementations are going to blow up the VQ? NO.
regardless of all this, YES, adding FI to a car I paid nearly 40k for last year is FUCKING SCARY.
12-21-2003, 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
you people crack me the fuck up. 8 blown **PROCHARGED** Z's. The ATI Procharger is the only FI application that's wasting multiple Z engines at the moment. IMHO, most of these failures could have been prevented with a J&S timing box or the likes of....which the procharger kit doesn't include.
you people crack me the fuck up. 8 blown **PROCHARGED** Z's. The ATI Procharger is the only FI application that's wasting multiple Z engines at the moment. IMHO, most of these failures could have been prevented with a J&S timing box or the likes of....which the procharger kit doesn't include.
FI 350z engines blown: 8
FI CLS engines blown: 0
12-21-2003, 11:01 PM
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that's because j > vq.
12-21-2003, 11:05 PM
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I did not read that much into it.
Yes, if they are not tuned right.
Especially when the only kit is not set up correctly!
I did not read that much into it.
Yes, if they are not tuned right.
Especially when the only kit is not set up correctly!
..yes if they are tuned right? of course an improperly tuned sc/tc will blow an engine. that wasn't my point. obviously.
you guys also need to read up at my350z.com. this has all been hashed and rehashed there. the procharger is causing trouble on cars that have been tuned by veteran mechanics who have had years of experience with FI...this is NOT just a A/F tuning issue thats caused by inexperienced installers, and no one has proven the Z can't handle FI. IMHO of course.
12-21-2003, 11:08 PM
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FI 350z engines blown: 8
FI CLS engines blown: 0
FI 350z engines blown: 8
FI CLS engines blown: 0
you are comparing apples and oranges. this includes the home made t/c 'thatguy' has.you guys are a bunch of damn haters.
12-21-2003, 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
FI 350z engines blown: 8
FI CLS engines blown: 0
FI 350z engines blown: 8
FI CLS engines blown: 0
Stock 350z trannies blown
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Stock CLS trannies blown
Sorry, but I had to.... Just FYI, this was in reference to Darrinb's Acura > Nissan comment, not a bash on Acura.
12-21-2003, 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by zeroday
well i did read that much into it. read it again?
..yes if they are tuned right? of course an improperly tuned sc/tc will blow an engine. that wasn't my point. obviously.
you guys also need to read up at my350z.com. this has all been hashed and rehashed there. the procharger is causing trouble on cars that have been tuned by veteran mechanics who have had years of experience with FI...this is NOT just a A/F tuning issue IMHO.
well i did read that much into it. read it again?
..yes if they are tuned right? of course an improperly tuned sc/tc will blow an engine. that wasn't my point. obviously.
you guys also need to read up at my350z.com. this has all been hashed and rehashed there. the procharger is causing trouble on cars that have been tuned by veteran mechanics who have had years of experience with FI...this is NOT just a A/F tuning issue IMHO.
.....I just want to know, WHAT does ATI supply for engine management? ......then blame can be reasessed
12-21-2003, 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Let's see a CLS SC push 8-9+ PSI and then we'll talk
Let's see a CLS SC push 8-9+ PSI and then we'll talk
12-21-2003, 11:16 PM
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dude there are 3 guys with comptech superchargers on their 6th gen accords running 13 second et's with 8-9 PSI. think before you say something stupid.
dude there are 3 guys with comptech superchargers on their 6th gen accords running 13 second et's with 8-9 PSI. think before you say something stupid.
12-21-2003, 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Let's see a CLS SC push 8-9+ PSI and then we'll talk
Let's see a CLS SC push 8-9+ PSI and then we'll talk
NOW, WTF DOES ATI SUPPLY FOR ENGINE MANAGEMENT IN THEIR KITS? I'm trying to help you guys here, help me out!
