Originally posted by proaudio22
Give it the S2000 motor/drivetrain hehe. TSX = weeney FWD, TSX-S = 8000rpm+RWD

Sometimes I think Honda is STUPID. Do they not realize something like that would sell better than Tickle-Me-Elmo?

Originally posted by pimpscls
honda and acura are fukin retarted, they gotta realize their losing buisness, with their simple cars they need to be more agressive and sporty in order to survive

Originally posted by MaK_Machine
hi.. i've been lurking around in the clubrsx and acl forums for a few months now since i'm trying to buy an acura around march (hopefully a CL). i wasn't gonna post until then, but i've decided to post a bit early seeing as how i have info that may be useful. anyway.. one of the moderators in clubrsx took a trip to japan and visited honda hq. apparently honda has built an awd and turbocharged tsx with a new version of the K24 engine. it is currently available in japan and they're considering bringing it to the US. if you wanna find out the whole story you can visit the thread here

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...5&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by MaK_Machine
hi.. i've been lurking around in the clubrsx and acl forums for a few months now since i'm trying to buy an acura around march (hopefully a CL). i wasn't gonna post until then, but i've decided to post a bit early seeing as how i have info that may be useful. anyway.. one of the moderators in clubrsx took a trip to japan and visited honda hq. apparently honda has built an awd and turbocharged tsx with a new version of the K24 engine. it is currently available in japan and they're considering bringing it to the US. if you wanna find out the whole story you can visit the thread here

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...5&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by Scrib
Yes, that sort of application would sell great HERE and other Acura enthusiat boards. But unfortunately, we make up a VERY small percent of Acura's core market. Hence this will probably never happen.

Originally posted by Red Rider
I've got a TSX loaner right now and it sure doesn't feel like 200 H.P. It is the 5AT, but i will still expecting more. Feels floaty at higher speeds also. Makes me realize how dialed in the Red Rider is

Originally posted by Red Rider
I've got a TSX loaner right now and it sure doesn't feel like 200 H.P. It is the 5AT, but i will still expecting more. Feels floaty at higher speeds also. Makes me realize how dialed in the Red Rider is

Originally posted by MaK_Machine
apparently honda has built an awd and turbocharged tsx with a new version of the K24 engine. it is currently available in japan
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...5&pagenumber=1

I'm back! Sorry for the lack of updates. I was hanging out with a friend of mine, and we just partied like there's no tomorrow. Plus he let me drive his skyline! Holy crap that car is damn awesome.

Anyways, as for the good stuff.

1. The Accord Type-R AWD
The accord type-r (TSX for us), is now available in Japan with AWD. The model they let me drive was a prototype that they are thinking about bringing to the US domestic market. The car is for "consumer trials" where they get customer feedback. Essentially this car is a TSX, with a new version of the K24 engine spec. What's different? Lets just say its got some more HP, and some more torque. This is mainly to compensate the HP loss to the wheels when AWD is implemented. However, the version I drove was equipped with a turbocharged engine that they're tossing up in the air as a performance package option. I just couldn't resist screaming "VTEC BABY!" when it kicked in. The car handles great, as many have already said, the car is extremely well balanced, responsive, and nicely tuned. Equipped with the nice buttery sweet DC5R 6-speed, it was probably one of the most enjoyable cars I have ever driven. Driving on the twisties was great, although I'm not used to driving AWD, and thus wasn't acustomed to the powerslide effect. They called me chicken... So why AWD in the US? They realize that for one, they're losing a good amount of sales to subaru and mitsubishi for those who are looking for some AWD capabilities. This is especially true for the new market segment that's growing rapidly where people want AWD, but don't want to drive something as obnoxious as an SUV. Also they want to price the TSX higher, since it's price bracket right now is cannibalizing the RSX market, yet is too far from the TL market. This fills that void. I told them this is by far what they should've done from day 1. I told them that the pricing segment is a great idea, and they should have the performance option for the turbo, but not to charge a stupid price for it like the RSX's package. They were excited to have a representative of a car owners club in the US who spoke japanese that could convey these thoughts to them. They're taking my suggestions quite seriously, and will give it some weight when they make their final decision in February. The great part? I'm now on their contact list as an evaluator for the American market. I think they might send me invites or something in the future. I hope. I seriously hope they bring the AWD TSX to the states though. I'd be the first in line to get one.

2. The RSX's fate
In October, Honda Japan & Honda America were discussing a huge problem. RSX sales had fallen nearly 40% in the US market suddenly, despite a very good opening year. This made them seriously consider discontinuing the sales of RSX's in the market. The culprit? The TSX. For about 5k more, you got the Type-S's HP, with more torque, more space, and yet had the Navi as an option. They realized this pricing bracket mistake which goes back to them considering #1 mentioned above. I mentioned to them something they missed though. Their prime demographic for the RSX (males ages 20-30), were 50% unemployed due to the enconomic conditions. I assured them that this is probably the primary case aside from the TSX issue, and that if they stuck with it for 2 years the sales will come back. I asked them about any refreshes to the current RSX line, and they said they just added the heated mirrors, but don't expect to add anything to the RSX in the near future.

3. Skunkworks @ Honda
These guys showed me their prototype V8 engine. Now I know what you're thinking, since I asked them myself... What the hell is honda doing making a huge ass engine when they always made small ones? Well, 2 reasons: MDX and NSX. Both of these cars have been a tad stagnant with power, and Honda is considering using this engine for a "power" option. Remember, they got Nissan to compete with. They're also really messing around with the K24 engine like crazy. They're goal is to have the K24 a base, where you can customize it with different modules for power or use. Kind of a neat idea, but I'm not sure how it'll work. S2000: there's a possible major refresh of the S2000. I've seen some sketches already that they showed me, and told them to get rid of 3 ugly ass ones. One of them looked really hot though - it was kind of aston-martin like.

Its not currently available in Japan. It was a prototype car that his apparently tested on a closed track. The only AWD TSX available is sold in Japan with the 2.0 160HP Base RSX Engine

I seriously hope they bring the AWD TSX to the states though. I'd be the first in line to get one.