Dodge Finally Puts the Neon to Sleep. (That lasted about 2 seconds)
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Dodge Finally Puts the Neon to Sleep. (That lasted about 2 seconds)
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Neon
The long goodbye: Neon fades from view
The small car never lived up to lofty goals of topping Japanese rivals; Dodge sport wagon takes its place.
By Brett Clanton / The Detroit News
The Dodge Caliber sport wagon will replace the Neon next year.
Chrysler's latest small car
DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group is expected to debut its Chrysler Akino small car concept at the Tokyo Auto Show in October. The five-passenger vehicle, named for Chrysler designer Akino Tsuchiya, hints at the direction of the automaker's compact cars. It also explores auto interiors of the future, with its bamboo flooring, mood lighting and throw pillows.
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Hailed a decade ago as Detroit's best shot at beating the Japanese at their own game, the Dodge Neon will quietly go out of production this week, remembered mostly as a little car with big expectations that couldn't deliver on them.
Famously introduced with a simple "Hi" in a 1994 ad campaign, Neon is saying goodbye at a time when the small car segment is becoming more competitive, forcing automakers to rethink the way they reach entry-level car buyers.
DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group will replace the Neon early next year with the Dodge Caliber sport wagon, a vehicle that is more in line with a shift to bigger, more versatile vehicles in the small car market.
Neon's exit from the market is renewing questions about whether Detroit automakers can make a profit building small cars -- an achievement that's especially pressing now that the Big Three are seeing SUV sales weaken and are counting on other vehicles to make up for the lost revenue.
Detroit has produced small car hits such as the Ford Escort and Chevrolet Cavalier, but the Neon is a good example of how the Big Three's focus on trucks and SUVs worked to their detriment in other market segments.
"It was a friendly little car. But it never really had the specs to wow anybody," said Peter Dixon, senior partner at Lippincott Mercer, a brand consulting firm in New York.
That wasn't the case when the Neon first came out.
Few vehicles from Detroit have enjoyed the promotion and praise that attended the arrival of the Neon in February 1994. In cover stories at the time, the Wall Street Journal and BusinessWeek magazine called the Neon the first legitimate U.S. contender in years to the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. A likeable ad campaign, showing a white Neon facing into the camera and saying "Hi," also endeared the car to thousands of American families.
But all the exposure may have created unrealistic expectations for the car, said Tom Libby, an analyst with J.D. Power and Associates' Power Information Network.
"If they had had a history of being strong in that segment, I think it would have been easier. But they didn't."
With Neon, Chrysler carried the hope of the U.S. auto industry that Detroit could win back ground lost to Asian rivals. Chrysler even developed right-hand drive versions for Japan, prompting fear in the Japanese press that Neon would be a "Japan car killer."
But neither happened. "That may have been idealistic thinking," Libby said.
The Neon, initially sold under the Dodge and Plymouth brands before Plymouth was phased out in 2001, replaced the Dodge Shadow and Plymouth Sundance. It did well early on -- posting sales of 240,000 in its first full year on the market -- despite three embarrassing recalls shortly after its introduction.
"I didn't expect it to be perfect," said Greg Croft, 30, an information systems analyst in Frazier who bought a first generation Neon that was recalled for a leaky head gasket. "It was a $13,000 car."
Pitched as an economy car with better standard safety features and a bigger engine than competitors, Neon sales peaked at 245,000 in 1996 but have been on the decline since.
The car's image also has suffered along the way. Once seen as sprightly and cute, the Neon grew to be viewed as cartoonish and ultimately uncool -- an idea that wasn't helped by its prevalence in rental car fleets.
The baggage around the Neon name became so bad that in 2003, when Chrysler debuted a high-performance SRT-4 version of the car, it dropped the Neon name altogether in promotions.
"What I'll say about Neon is that we didn't really follow the trends in that segment very well," said Joe Eberhardt, Chrysler's executive vice president of marketing. While other automakers were improving interiors and increasing the size of their small cars, the Neon hardly grew from its original design, he said.
"Honestly, we've not focused on (the small car) segment of the market as much as we did trucks and SUVs," he acknowledged.
Chrysler is banking on bigger things with the Dodge Caliber. The small wagon, which is similar in size to the Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix, fits in with a trend toward larger and better-equipped vehicles in the small car category. It will feature a highly flexible interior and a family of peppy and fuel-efficient engine options and will be built at a factory in Belvidere, Ill., which is undergoing a $419 million renovation this fall so that the Caliber will be available by early spring.
The Neon will have its swan song at the Belvidere plant on Friday, when the last model is scheduled to roll off the line.
It will be an emotional day for Kelly Brookhart, 23, of Ridge, Md., who has a 1999 Neon and feels a connection with other Neon owners.
"The people who own Neons are like a family," she said. "They have something about them that makes them special." It's kind of a loveable underdog mentality that attracts a certain breed of buyer, she said.
But just because the car is going away, that doesn't mean its following among enthusiasts will fade.
"Those that are loyal still will be loyal," said Tim Kish, 31, who owns three Dodge Neons, including a spruced-up show car and a modified drag racer. He said Neon's exit could make his collection more valuable, but it may take a while to get past the idea of there being no Neon on the market.
"It will be a hurt to us," said Kish, speaking for the Neon enthusiast crowd. "But I'll move on. I'll try to accept it."
You can reach Brett Clanton at (313) 222-2612 or bclanton@detnews.com.
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http://www.detnews.com/autosinsider/index.htm
Neon
The long goodbye: Neon fades from view
The small car never lived up to lofty goals of topping Japanese rivals; Dodge sport wagon takes its place.
By Brett Clanton / The Detroit News
The Dodge Caliber sport wagon will replace the Neon next year.
Chrysler's latest small car
DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group is expected to debut its Chrysler Akino small car concept at the Tokyo Auto Show in October. The five-passenger vehicle, named for Chrysler designer Akino Tsuchiya, hints at the direction of the automaker's compact cars. It also explores auto interiors of the future, with its bamboo flooring, mood lighting and throw pillows.
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Hailed a decade ago as Detroit's best shot at beating the Japanese at their own game, the Dodge Neon will quietly go out of production this week, remembered mostly as a little car with big expectations that couldn't deliver on them.
Famously introduced with a simple "Hi" in a 1994 ad campaign, Neon is saying goodbye at a time when the small car segment is becoming more competitive, forcing automakers to rethink the way they reach entry-level car buyers.
DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group will replace the Neon early next year with the Dodge Caliber sport wagon, a vehicle that is more in line with a shift to bigger, more versatile vehicles in the small car market.
Neon's exit from the market is renewing questions about whether Detroit automakers can make a profit building small cars -- an achievement that's especially pressing now that the Big Three are seeing SUV sales weaken and are counting on other vehicles to make up for the lost revenue.
Detroit has produced small car hits such as the Ford Escort and Chevrolet Cavalier, but the Neon is a good example of how the Big Three's focus on trucks and SUVs worked to their detriment in other market segments.
"It was a friendly little car. But it never really had the specs to wow anybody," said Peter Dixon, senior partner at Lippincott Mercer, a brand consulting firm in New York.
That wasn't the case when the Neon first came out.
Few vehicles from Detroit have enjoyed the promotion and praise that attended the arrival of the Neon in February 1994. In cover stories at the time, the Wall Street Journal and BusinessWeek magazine called the Neon the first legitimate U.S. contender in years to the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. A likeable ad campaign, showing a white Neon facing into the camera and saying "Hi," also endeared the car to thousands of American families.
But all the exposure may have created unrealistic expectations for the car, said Tom Libby, an analyst with J.D. Power and Associates' Power Information Network.
"If they had had a history of being strong in that segment, I think it would have been easier. But they didn't."
With Neon, Chrysler carried the hope of the U.S. auto industry that Detroit could win back ground lost to Asian rivals. Chrysler even developed right-hand drive versions for Japan, prompting fear in the Japanese press that Neon would be a "Japan car killer."
But neither happened. "That may have been idealistic thinking," Libby said.
The Neon, initially sold under the Dodge and Plymouth brands before Plymouth was phased out in 2001, replaced the Dodge Shadow and Plymouth Sundance. It did well early on -- posting sales of 240,000 in its first full year on the market -- despite three embarrassing recalls shortly after its introduction.
"I didn't expect it to be perfect," said Greg Croft, 30, an information systems analyst in Frazier who bought a first generation Neon that was recalled for a leaky head gasket. "It was a $13,000 car."
Pitched as an economy car with better standard safety features and a bigger engine than competitors, Neon sales peaked at 245,000 in 1996 but have been on the decline since.
The car's image also has suffered along the way. Once seen as sprightly and cute, the Neon grew to be viewed as cartoonish and ultimately uncool -- an idea that wasn't helped by its prevalence in rental car fleets.
The baggage around the Neon name became so bad that in 2003, when Chrysler debuted a high-performance SRT-4 version of the car, it dropped the Neon name altogether in promotions.
"What I'll say about Neon is that we didn't really follow the trends in that segment very well," said Joe Eberhardt, Chrysler's executive vice president of marketing. While other automakers were improving interiors and increasing the size of their small cars, the Neon hardly grew from its original design, he said.
"Honestly, we've not focused on (the small car) segment of the market as much as we did trucks and SUVs," he acknowledged.
Chrysler is banking on bigger things with the Dodge Caliber. The small wagon, which is similar in size to the Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix, fits in with a trend toward larger and better-equipped vehicles in the small car category. It will feature a highly flexible interior and a family of peppy and fuel-efficient engine options and will be built at a factory in Belvidere, Ill., which is undergoing a $419 million renovation this fall so that the Caliber will be available by early spring.
The Neon will have its swan song at the Belvidere plant on Friday, when the last model is scheduled to roll off the line.
It will be an emotional day for Kelly Brookhart, 23, of Ridge, Md., who has a 1999 Neon and feels a connection with other Neon owners.
"The people who own Neons are like a family," she said. "They have something about them that makes them special." It's kind of a loveable underdog mentality that attracts a certain breed of buyer, she said.
But just because the car is going away, that doesn't mean its following among enthusiasts will fade.
"Those that are loyal still will be loyal," said Tim Kish, 31, who owns three Dodge Neons, including a spruced-up show car and a modified drag racer. He said Neon's exit could make his collection more valuable, but it may take a while to get past the idea of there being no Neon on the market.
"It will be a hurt to us," said Kish, speaking for the Neon enthusiast crowd. "But I'll move on. I'll try to accept it."
You can reach Brett Clanton at (313) 222-2612 or bclanton@detnews.com.
09-19-2005, 05:04 PM
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Hailed a decade ago as Detroit's best shot at beating the Japanese at their own game, the Dodge Neon will quietly go out of production this week, remembered mostly as a little car with big expectations that couldn't deliver on them........ "The people who own Neons are like a family," she said. "They have something about them that makes them special." It's kind of a loveable underdog mentality that attracts a certain breed of buyer, she said.........
09-19-2005, 06:26 PM
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hahahahaha buh bye!
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09-19-2005, 08:42 PM
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My mom had a purple one. She called it Barney.
09-20-2005, 05:03 AM
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09-20-2005, 05:22 AM
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...so be it. I'm sure the trailer park sport compact crowd will lament its departure.
09-20-2005, 06:51 AM
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...so be it. I'm sure the trailer park sport compact crowd will lament its departure.
09-20-2005, 09:35 AM
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"The people who own Neons are like a family," she said. "They have something about them that makes them special." It's kind of a loveable underdog mentality that attracts a certain breed of buyer, she said.
They're called losers sweety
They're called losers sweety
09-20-2005, 11:07 AM
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You guys should be comedians I had tears in my eyes reading all of that!!!!!! Here is what is replacing the neon:
Dodge Caliber...eh...I don't like it...looks too much like an SUV, like a really condensed Durango.
Whatever, I'm not really interested in any of their products.
09-20-2005, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by massr1
srt-4 had awesome performance #s
I could make a Toyota Tercel have awesome performance numbers. Doesn't mean the car isn't a piece of shit.
09-21-2005, 02:50 PM
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You guys should be comedians I had tears in my eyes reading all of that!!!!!! Here is what is replacing the neon:
Dodge Caliber...eh...I don't like it...looks too much like an SUV, like a really condensed Durango.
Whatever, I'm not really interested in any of their products.
ya, based on this pic, grill does look like a suv still.
09-21-2005, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
I could make a Toyota Tercel have awesome performance numbers. Doesn't mean the car isn't a piece of shit.
from C/D 2004:
Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door sedan
Price as tested: $21,690 (base price: $20,995)
Engine type: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, iron block and aluminum head, port fuel injection
Displacement: 148 cu in, 2429cc
Power (SAE net): 230 bhp @ 5300 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 250 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Wheelbase: 105.0 in
Length/width/height: 174.4/67.4/56.0 in
Curb weight: 2984 lb
Zero to 60 mph: 5.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: .13.4 sec
Zero to 130 mph: .24.8 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.7 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.9 sec @ 103 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 153 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 169 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.86 g
EPA fuel economy, city driving: 22 mpg
C/D-observed fuel economy: 17 mpg
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09-21-2005, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
I could make a Toyota Tercel have awesome performance numbers. Doesn't mean the car isn't a piece of shit.
The worst part of all this talk is no one can really back it up with any facts, the negative press never did catch up to the srt4. The car broke through the sport compact segment, arrived on the other side, and Honda/Toyota/ nor Nissan were there to counter it.
09-21-2005, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
The worst part of all this talk is no one can really back it up with any facts, the negative press never did catch up to the srt4. The car broke through the sport compact segment, arrived on the other side, and Honda/Toyota/ nor Nissan were there to counter it.I mean, 4 door sport compact that starts out @ $21,000 with 230hp/250tq ... despite being cheap looking, I think that's pretty damn good.
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Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
What exactly countered it though? I figured that in its price/size segment, it led in most bang for the buck.
I mean, 4 door sport compact that starts out @ $21,000 with 230hp/250tq ... despite being cheap looking, I think that's pretty damn good.
I mean, 4 door sport compact that starts out @ $21,000 with 230hp/250tq ... despite being cheap looking, I think that's pretty damn good.
awesome stock performance car for cheap, which is an even better project car cause it has so much potential (only limited by fwd)
09-21-2005, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
What exactly countered it though? I figured that in its price/size segment, it led in most bang for the buck.
I mean, 4 door sport compact that starts out @ $21,000 with 230hp/250tq ... despite being cheap looking, I think that's pretty damn good.
I mean, 4 door sport compact that starts out @ $21,000 with 230hp/250tq ... despite being cheap looking, I think that's pretty damn good.
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Originally Posted by GalantT3
You guys should be comedians I had tears in my eyes reading all of that!!!!!! Here is what is replacing the neon:
Dodge Caliber...eh...I don't like it...looks too much like an SUV, like a really condensed Durango.
Whatever, I'm not really interested in any of their products.
that's fuckin hot!!
btw, i'm amazed at how many SRT4's I see on the road
SRT8 Magnum is calling me
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Maybe. I "respect" the Ne...er...SRT4 for what it is (the best performance for $20k). But I'd personally rather get a used Integra GSR 4dr and boost it before getting a new SRT4.
But stock for stock, from the factory, there's really nothing comparable it seems... the WRX seems like the closest competitor, but @ a more expensive price.
09-22-2005, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
I would too actually...
But stock for stock, from the factory, there's really nothing comparable it seems... the WRX seems like the closest competitor, but @ a more expensive price.
But stock for stock, from the factory, there's really nothing comparable it seems... the WRX seems like the closest competitor, but @ a more expensive price.
One has to give Dodge some credit for the SRT4.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I'd personally rather get a used Integra GSR 4dr and boost it before getting a new SRT4.
If I recall correctly, a long while ago, edelbrock had an all-motor 439hp integra! now that would be awesome!
09-22-2005, 06:07 PM
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why must dodge insist on making the front ends of all their cars look the same? i hate that shit.
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werd - not a big fan of Honda's new "face" either...ala Accord, Civic.
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