Acura needs to get into the big boy game asap that means (like Lexus) V8 power and MUCH better interiors... TLX? oooooh look ma, a gussied up Accord... oooh look there's a gussied up CR-V (RDX) and a gussied up Civic too (ILX) Oh, wjile we are at it least cost cut the RLX with A FWD OPTION...

 

Is the ILX really a gussied up civic though? The civic is nicer IMHO.

 

doesn't that also apply to the 2G NSX?

 

The ILX is a generation behind the Civic improvements.

The next ILX will be a little ahead of the Civic.

 

if i look at the weight #... yes it does

 

I was going to say... where are you getting your information?

I can personally attest this is not true, with my own experience. My 2.0L EcoBoost averages 27MPG and I have over 300ft-lbs of torque, and has been 100% reliable.

 

Only 8k on my 2.7EB, but I'm getting closer to 20mpg with it, with 375lb/ft lugging a 4500lb truck around.

 

Your car is a '13.

 

out of warranty, last half of useful life, yes they are less reliable. Its common sense. People these days flip cars alot quicker than they used to, reliability in year 7,8,9,10 less important to alot of people

 

I would have to argue that's where you're wrong. You don't do a ton of maintenance on a factory turbo'd car. As long as oil changes were done as prescribed, there should be no issues.

That, and we aren't talking about 8+ year old beaters here. No idea why you bring it up. I would never buy a car that didn't meet my stringent criteria, regardless if it was turbo or not. A poorly maintained car is still a poorly maintained car... And it goes deeper than that- abused paint, neglected interiors, curbed up wheels, etc. No thanks.

 

I'm not talking about buying a used car, i'm talking about comparing an NA car to a T car you bought new from the mileage range of say 75-150k miles... I hold my cars and get value out of them, the longer they are paid off and rolling the more value.

Car manufacturers are adept enough now to keep their cars reliable through their warranties and extended warranties, so after year say 7 you are on the hook and what are the expectations?