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Old 04-01-2008, 12:18 PM
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this can't be true...

I got this in an e-mail from a co-worker this morning... but I find it hard to believe, since it would make any car on the road easy to break into...

"you tho't you were inVINcible

Here is info worth the price of your car....

WHAT WILL the car thieves THINK OF NEXT?

The car thieves peer through the windshield of your car or truck, write down the VIN # from the label on the dash, go to the local car dealership and request a duplicate key based on the VIN #. I didn't believe this e-mail, so I called Chrysler-Dodge and pretended I had lost my keys They told me to just bring in the VIN #, and they would cut me one on the spot, and I could order the keyless device if I wanted.

The Car Dealer's Parts Department will make a duplicate key from the VIN #, and collect payment from the thief who will return to your car. He doesn't have to break in, do an! y damage to the vehicle, or
draw attention to himself. All he has to do is walk up to your car, insert the key and off he ! goes to a local Chop Shop with your vehicle. You don't believe it? It IS that easy.

To avoid this from happening to you, simply put some tape (electrical tape, duct tape or medical tape) across the VIN Metal Label located on the dash board. By law, you cannot remove the VIN, but you CAN cover it so it can't be viewed through the windshield by a car thief. "
(End of Email)

I'll admit... I have looked at the VIN# on the dash through the windshield and wondered if that could be used against me... but this seems ridiculous...
Old 04-01-2008, 12:25 PM
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I'll take my chances. I'm sure it can be done but I bet they ask for more info than just the vin and payment options.
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From Snopes.com

Claim: Thieves can steal cars by using VINs to obtain duplicate keys through auto dealerships.

Status: Multiple:

* Some thieves have stolen cars by using VINs to obtain duplicate keys through auto dealerships: True.

* Obscuring you car's VIN is a good way to decrease the likelihood that your automobile will be stolen: False
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Yeah it's true to some degree. I do have my vin covered.
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the dealer should ask for an ID too.
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yea, i've had key's made at acura b4. all they asked for was my id, they took a copy.

easy way to cover the vin is stick a business card btwn the glass and dash. imho
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:33 PM
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My brother had to get a new key made for his 99 S500, a Mercedes rep came to our house and verified he was the actual owner.
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If it was truly that easy, 1 of two things would happen:

1) there would be mass hysteria about the number of stolen cars
2) Auto makers or aftermarket companies would have produced something to prevent it.

Bottom line, hiding your VIN number will only stop kids from stealing your car.
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
If it was truly that easy, 1 of two things would happen:

1) there would be mass hysteria about the number of stolen cars
2) Auto makers or aftermarket companies would have produced something to prevent it.

Bottom line, hiding your VIN number will only stop kids from stealing your car.
And that 2 seconds of work is not worth the hassle?
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Don't you have to present your ownership information as well?
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
welcome to 2003....

welcome to 1990
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Originally Posted by FiftyFive
And that 2 seconds of work is not worth the hassle?
Not the point...

Did you fail to read 1 and 2? I've never ever heard of anyone having their car stolen by obtaining a set of keys from the dealer.
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I don't cover mine for theft. A car vin number can be run by many "services" on the net & they will pull up all this info about you.
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I scratch all my VINs off.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I scratch all my VINs off.

my vins come scratched off
Old 04-01-2008, 03:59 PM
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^^some really stupid people might listen to you guys thinking you're serious.... bad idea
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
^^some really stupid people might listen to you guys thinking you're serious.... bad idea

why, I think it's brilliant!!
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Not the point...

Did you fail to read 1 and 2? I've never ever heard of anyone having their car stolen by obtaining a set of keys from the dealer.
Gone in 60 Seconds! Oh wait! That was a movie.
Old 04-01-2008, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
^^some really stupid people might listen to you guys thinking you're serious.... bad idea
nothing wrong with scatching off vins......all my firearms come with teh digits filed off
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i knew a guy who had a friend who's brother's sisters boyfriend worked for Acura. He would get vins from his gf;s brothers friend and make keys.
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This is something new??
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I had a friend that had to get his key replace for his integra at Acura. They asked for his id, insurance, and registration. But you never know.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
nothing wrong with scatching off vins......all my firearms come with teh digits filed off
I know next to nothing about firearm registration and laws, etc. but isn't it illegal to tamper with the VIN in any way shape or form on a vehicle? I know for certain its illegal to remove it, and I figured it would be to scratch it too

If htis is all sarcasm then it isn't coming through so well.... my brain is fried
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i shit in my car so no one would want to steal it
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Trunk monkey protects my car
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Trunk monkey protects my car
Old 04-01-2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
nothing wrong with scatching off vins......all my firearms come with teh digits filed off
LMAO ... that's the kind of talk I want to hear ....
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if someone wants your car, they will find a way to take it
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My dad asked his co-worker to get him some extra keys for his old Jeep (company vehicle). The guy got his VIN, took it to Jeep and had 3 keys made no questions asked. I never actually thought of this before now though.
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Can they go to any dealer and get a key?

Or do they have to go to the dealer that you bought the car from???
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Originally Posted by taz98spin
Can they go to any dealer and get a key?

Or do they have to go to the dealer that you bought the car from???
I think any dealer beacuse his Jeep was bought in Birmingham, and the guy went to the local dealer to get the keys made.
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Originally Posted by CL-Slick
I think any dealer beacuse his Jeep was bought in Birmingham, and the guy went to the local dealer to get the keys made.

That sucks... better cover up my VIN number now
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if someone wants your car, they will find a way to take it
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oh well, my cars got vin numbers all over the damn thing...
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Not the point...

Did you fail to read 1 and 2? I've never ever heard of anyone having their car stolen by obtaining a set of keys from the dealer.
Gone in 60 seconds, pfft
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They'd be doing me a favour.
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My grand parents were in town from florida and lost their keys. I went to the dealer with the vin (couldnt get in the car to get registration) and they made me 2 new keys on the spot. they just asked for my name, i didnt have to show an ID or any thing.
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Somebody has seen "Gone in 60 Seconds" one time too many....

A lot of today's keys come with key codes (4-5 digit number), and you need this key code along with proof of identification and a registration to show to the dealer before even getting a copy of a key. The only 2 companies that I know of that you can order a key and they work without any programming at all is BMW and Mercedes. I have ordered keys for my customers and got them with no problem. Then again, the dealer knows me, and knows who the car was sold to, so any proof or identification was not necessary.


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