srika

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests

just nutty. highly recommend checking out the downloadable PDF of all the performance data for this comparison.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...1165617301.pdf

crazyasiantl

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srika

woops... meant to post this in Car Talk.. Yummy

srika

oh and it gets 17/25

Hapa DC5

very very impressive.

onebadna1nsx

wow...

F23A4

Impressive.....I wonder if the attributes that makes the Nissan GT-R noteworthy to many mags got into the heads of mad scientists at Porsche:

"But the new-for-2010 911 Turbo includes a number of significant advancements, ones that have helped to make handling far more predictable. Credit the combination of Porsche’s brake-based torque-vectoring system, tweaks to the standard all-wheel-drive system and the suspension geometry, and new dynamic engine mounts, which do a great job stabilizing the powertrain and are standard on Turbo S models.

Although the Porsche couldn’t quite match the Ferrari’s pace on the racetrack, it was a friend in fast—very fast—mountain driving, allowing pilots to take liberties they wouldn’t have chanced with some earlier 911 Turbos. As the miles unwound, confidence grew.

A logbook comment called the car “so fluid and fluent in its directional changes, so stable midcorner and under braking, that it’s a delight.” "

OK Nissan! Porsche just threw down the gauntlet with a 911T that pretty much relegated your heralded Ring time to irrelevancy. So you'd better up the ante on the Spec V!!! Then again, why bother.

West6MT

srika

GT-R was a HUGE influence on the top manufacturers, I am certain at this point. Thanks, GT-R. You raised the bar like no other car ever had.

srika

458 and SLS are also impressive for their manufacturers, 11.5 and 11.6 @ 125...

civicdrivr

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pttl

V-tec must have kicked in yo!

Yumcha

Moved.

Never Summer

I saw that when I was reading it early, that's what, .1 second slower than the Veyron to 60?

achenator

it should whip ass. It costs as much as a GT-R AND a Z06. Waiting patiently for the 2012 GT-R numbers to come out.

knight rider

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That was a good read. Sub 4 sec 0-60 is insane. 2.7 sec 0-60 is just mindblowing. The numbers that these car produce are just bragging rights. I mean, this is the kind of performance makes for good entertainment for us, car message board loving car enthusiasts, when some wealthy mid-life crisiser steers one into a pole. More entertaining though is watching a youtube video of one of these monsters in action. I wonder how the Lamboghini Gallardo SV would have faired in the bunch?

Despite the performance numbers, looks count a lot for me and if I had the coin I'd get the R8 all day long over any one of these. Hell, I'd even settle for the V8.

nokiaman

That was a pretty good read. Once the new Turbo S gets tweaked some more by aftermarket companies, it should be interesting.

HBaJ

If by interesting you mean a possibly daily driven NASA G-Force tester, then yeh..very interesting.

gatrhumpy

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Oh if I had the money!

Majofo

Aman

I thought that was a typo when I first read it. These numbers are right with the Veyron/Atom

savage

I'd take the Porsche as a DD and the 458 as a weekend toy anytime...

dom

What were the lap times?

rossv1

Fast.

Never Summer

If I remember correctly the Ferrari lead the pack with the 911 coming in a close second... I want to say the Ferrari did it in 1:32 and the Porsche did it in 1:33, I don't have the magazine on me, otherwise I could give you exact numbers.

Dr. Colorado

What makes the Turbo S so exemplary besides it's mindblowing stats is how amendable it is as a daily driver. Certainly more comfortable than a GT3 and the straightline pull is intoxicating. Too bad it only comes with PDK.

mmafighta

Actually the 911 turbo raised the bar for all high end performance cars wayyyy before GTR ever did.

Hell, the goal Nissan was aiming for when creating the GTR was to beat the 911 turbo around the track. Not a coincidence the GTR has a 6-turbo.

Dr. Colorado

911 Turbo was the target in Nissan's crosshairs when they were developing the GTR.

achenator

i don't think you'd be able to shift a manual fast enough out of first gear, the time would be slower.

Dr. Colorado

For sure. I was speaking for myself personally. If I'm going to move from my C2S to a Turbo/TurboS than it better damn well have 3 pedals No human can shift as fast as a machine.

civicdrivr

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So 2.9 to 60?? Its all about the feeling, and sometimes a PDK, while good in its own right, just doesnt "feel" right.

Dr. Colorado

Preaching to the choir Padawan. When I was driving my boy's GTR, I kept reaching my left foot for the clutch out of habit

civicdrivr

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I know

Dr. Colorado

LOL I meant that as a compliment to you, not to be condescending Anyhoo, everyone says PDK/SMG/DCT yada, yada is the wave of the future. Call me old-fashioned I suppose.

Aman

If it makes you feel better, the reason PDK isn't available on the GT3 is because of principle, which I think is admirable of Porsche.

Bring on the PDK and superquick 0-60s, as long as you at least give me the option to row my own.

<- Lifelong automatic car owner.

srika

I disagree, I'm talking about the NEW standard. Nissan aiming for the 911 Turbo was just them getting up to speed with what they thought would give them a world-beater. The 911 Turbo has been on a pretty consistent path, since the 70's. With every new model, they upped the power a bit, they gave it more technology, and therefore it got faster. and faster. But they have been doing this for decades. It has been a steady (and arguably slow) path of progress. There was no 911 Turbo that came out and it was like HOLY @#^%*&%. This is the first (imo - ok maybe the 996 was a "wow" machine). The GT-R made everyone take notice, like it or not. Admit it or not (I don't think any of those manufacturers would admit it). It raised the bar for modern sports cars. It's not the first time this has happened, I would argue the first invasion of Japanese "super" sportscars (300ZX, Supra, RX-7, NSX) made the first stand. The modern GT-R is the logical evolution of Japanese supercars.

Aman

I think the reason no one took notice of the 911 Turbo before now is because it's always been one of the best. It's been consistent since the '70s because that's what worked. It's only now that competitors took notice, and set out to take it down. That's why you have the GT-R, the R8, even the AM V8.

GT-R is such an attention-grabber because nobody expected a Nissan to become a giant-killer, and because the R35 was such a huge leap from the R34, even taking into account the hiatus.

Dr. Colorado

QFT




911 Turbo has been at the apex of the 911 line since it's introduction. Granted, other variants are more track oriented i.e. GT3/GT3RS or borderline exotic i.e. GT2/GT2RS, but the Turbo has been the everyman's supercar and one can only do so much to improve upon the best. I will always love and drive Porsche because the evolution over the past 80 years is racebred, sensible, yet passionate in incremental steps. The silhouette and flat-6 were perfect at inception, and the evolution Porsche has implemented with the 911 is akin to the aging of a fine red wine IMO.

What I like most about Porsche is the company doesn't sit on it's laurels. For years, it was the most profitable automotive company yet still blows minds like bringing the 918 hybrid to production.

srika

I wouldnt say the 911 is "perfect", it has one glaring achille's heel, that I'm positive you know about.

Dr. Colorado

True. Perfection would imply it didn't need evolution. The flat-6/boxer engine was certainly ahead of it's time at inception and it's air-cooled, rear-engine design stood the test of time for many decades since the evolution from the 356 engine in 63.

I'm not sure what you're talking about as far as glaring imperfection. It's certainly irritating that I can't fit more than 3 cases of beer in the back or more than two girls, three if they are size 2 or less (2 sitting and 1 laying across their lap)