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Old 06-23-2010, 03:31 PM
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Bad accident on streets involving a LFA and an 67 year old

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/23/b...-germany-ring/

I blame toyota for giving him the car to drive
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He wasnt old enough to drive a vehicle of that power
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Originally Posted by turkeybaster115
Whats wrong with Health Insurance companies thoroughly reviewing a claim? You think they'd spend $1200 per day on something they didn't get the chance to review and question? From the amount of replies to this thread, you can see that not everyone is thinking the same about this. Some want us to blame the kid, the father, the health care insurance company, the car, etc. Its controversial, so they have every right to look into it.

OK, Everyone here is speculating on this case (including myself) without reading up on the facts:

(On the evening of January 6th, 2010) Casey was trauma hawked by helicopter to the St. Mary's Hospital trauma center in WPB, FL with only one vital sign, a heart beat! A quick CAT scan and testing revealed severe head trauma sending him into the first of two surgeries for hemicraniectomy (skull cap removal) on both his right side and left side. After recuperating in ICU for a month, Casey was upgraded and flown to Shepherd's Center in Atlanta, GA for intensive therapy for the next several months. Casey is now back in South Florida to continue his progress at Chatsworth at PGA. Although still in a coma and suffering from a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), Casey is alive and working hard toward recovery!
Again, I don't know all the facts, but this is an educated speculation. IMHO, basically, he received a few months of treatment at a Rehab facility and the insurance decided he plateaued and was thus discharged. He's still in a coma and I'm assuming the $1,200 per day cost is @ Chatsworth PGA (I looked this up, it's an assisted living facility). We can speculate that the insurance thinks PGA is too high a level of care and hence, will not pay. This is my professional opinion as I work in this field.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Yes, because with posts like this you truly show you are the Intellectual person here
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seriously, ridicule somebody for throwing out insults and then say florida kids are dumb and all of florida will be invaded by cocaine slinging cubans..

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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
talk about what is actually being discussed here by others.
That's utterly ridiculous. Everything I wrote is related to the subject; "Bad accident on track involving a Vette and an 18 year old"
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Originally Posted by turkeybaster115
You guys can't make any more logical arguements without resorting childish insults, like: "stupid". The problem is, I've been to florida. Not a state with the brightest kids thats for sure. Anyway no need to waste my time with you, the cubans will run y'all into the gutter, and cocaine you up.
Uh I was born and raised in Florida and I think I turned out pretty well. My dad was born and raised in Florida too. He writes and teaches statistical software at SAS. Guess he's just another dumb Floridian as well
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Originally Posted by Saintor
That's utterly ridiculous. Everything I wrote is related to the subject; "Bad accident on track involving a Vette and an 18 year old"
And yet the title isnt even relevant to the actual point of the story. Its about the insurance saying the kid isn't getting any better and no longer paying for his bills. No who's at fault for a freak accident (I say freak because non of us know what actually happened).
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^I'm glad the dad is at home taking care of him but why would he quit his job if they needed the money?
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
^I'm glad the dad is at home taking care of him but why would he quit his job if they needed the money?
Not knowing what kind of job he had, I'm sure he weighed out the pluses and minuses. Getting full time home care maybe was more expensive then his salary.
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Originally Posted by synth19
Not knowing what kind of job he had, I'm sure he weighed out the pluses and minuses. Getting full time home care maybe was more expensive then his salary.
Very true. I hope the mother in this situation is making enough to pay the household bills while trying to pay for his medical bills.

Long story short, a good friend of mine had a similar brain injury almost 2 years ago. Having a nurse to take care of him from 7:00am-7:00pm was almost $750 a day. That doesn't include any supplies, food, machines, etc.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
That's utterly ridiculous. Everything I wrote is related to the subject; "Bad accident on track involving a Vette and an 18 year old"
The only thing you talked about was him not having insurance to race on a track and blaming his father for giving him that car
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
The only thing you talked about was him not having insurance to race on a track and blaming his father for giving him that car
Which is part of the subject, *want it or not*.
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The "kid" did nothing wrong. There are plenty of 18yr olds racing much quicker cars than a high 12 second Vette and never getting hurt.

I got my car when I was 17 and was going 12.60s by the time I turned 18. I literally have made hundreds of passes and though I've had a couple close calls (spinning the tires at 80mph on street tire night brings back memories) but not a single wreck.

It's obvious something happened at the big end. The brake lights did not come on. One of two things happened:

He failed to hit the brakes.
The brakes failed.

The car was only going 108mph according to the timer which was probably 110mph or so in reality. I regularly stopped from 129+mph in a freaking Buick with 10.8" disks and rear drum brakes. I think a Vette could handle a 110-20mph stop just fine lol.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Which is part of the subject, *want it or not*.
That is part of your subject that was NEVER brought up in the article. It is something YOU made up and is irrelevant to the discussion here! Why do you feel it necessary to talk about something that isnt true or stated ANYWHERE in the article?
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
That is part of your subject that was NEVER brought up in the article. It is something YOU made up and is irrelevant to the discussion here! Why do you feel it necessary to talk about something that isnt true or stated ANYWHERE in the article?
That's silly. Everybody is doing it all the time. I made up nothing and everything I wrote is certainly relevant to the subject.
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Shouldve taken it to the track...
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Originally Posted by Saintor
That's silly. Everybody is doing it all the time. I made up nothing and everything I wrote is certainly relevant to the subject.
Explain to me how you think it is relevant to it? It isnt even a factor in the story
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Explain to me how you think it is relevant to it? It isnt even a factor in the story
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Explain to me how you think it is relevant to it? It isnt even a factor in the story

Sure it is. How can't the source of the story be relevant.... absurd.
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you're just arguing to argue..
its pretty pathetic actually.

being wrong hurts sometimes... just take it in stride...
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Originally Posted by Saintor
That's silly. Everybody is doing it all the time. I made up nothing and everything I wrote is certainly relevant to the subject.
I finally went back and read the whole thread and I have to say you've got to be one of the most jealous, cynical, and dumbest people to ever post in this forum.

It's a pretty safe guess that you either did not own a car when you were young or it was not the car that you wanted. Now you hate every "kid" that has a nice car. I think you need help.
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Wow, its so surprising that all these kids on a car forum think that kids are the greatest drivers in the world and should all be given Veyrons to take to the track!
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Sure it is. How can't the source of the story be relevant.... absurd.
The source of the story WAS NOT about that he didnt have insurance for the track. Go back and read it!
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The source of the story WAS NOT about that he didnt have insurance for the track. Go back and read it!
Not what I said neither and it is doesn't matter at all. The source of the story is that he had a wannabe-cool dad with poor judgment that gave him too much car for the kid and obviously crashed it be his lack of experience / skills. Now insurance or not, everybody is paying the high price, thanks to the dad's stupidity.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Not what I said neither and it is doesn't matter at all. The source of the story is that he had a wannabe-cool dad with poor judgment that gave him too much car for the kid and obviously crashed it be his lack of experience / skills. Now insurance or not, everybody is paying the high price, thanks to the dad's stupidity.
None of that is in the article either, but you wouldnt know because you already admitted to having not read it in the first place.

And nice use of a double negative, you brilliance and intelligence above all of ours really shines through again and again...
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^Obviously crashed it because of his lack of experience/skills? Really? Where did you find that information? Do you think he WANTED to crash his Vette?

Don't you wish that your dad would have gotten you a Vette when you were his age? Don't lie.

I'm half your age and I'm understanding the story better than you are.
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Wow, its so surprising that all these kids on a car forum think that kids are the greatest drivers in the world and should all be given Veyrons to take to the track!
How many of the people not blaming the kid are actually kids? From reading through the topic... seems like most are your age or older...
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Not what I said neither and it is doesn't matter at all. The source of the story is that he had a wannabe-cool dad with poor judgment that gave him too much car for the kid and obviously crashed it be his lack of experience / skills. Now insurance or not, everybody is paying the high price, thanks to the dad's stupidity.
Too much car? My 12 year old niece could stop a new Vette from 108mph. You know nothing about drag racing. If he didn't crash a high 12 second car in the first 1/8, the rest should be uneventful.

A Honda Civic will do 108mph eventually. Is that too much car too?
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Wow, its so surprising that all these kids on a car forum think that kids are the greatest drivers in the world and should all be given Veyrons to take to the track!
You can be 42 and be dumb as rocks.
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Wow, its so surprising that all these kids on a car forum think that kids are the greatest drivers in the world and should all be given Veyrons to take to the track!
No ones saying that.
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Originally Posted by sarlacc
none of that is in the article either, but you wouldnt know because you already admitted to having not read it in the first place.

And nice use of a double negative, you brilliance and intelligence above all of ours really shines through again and again...
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None of that is in the article either, but you wouldnt know because you already admitted to having not read it in the first place.
I admitted to nothing. You are full of it, son.
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A Honda Civic will do 108mph eventually. Is that too much car too?
So you suggest that Civic is the equal of a Corvette.... are you NUTS?
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Originally Posted by Saintor
So you suggest that Civic is the equal of a Corvette.... are you NUTS?
Don't put words in my mouth!

I said again: " A Honda Civic will do 108mph eventually. Is that too much car too? "

What's the difference in going 108mph in a Civic vs a Vette, other than the Vette will outhandle and outstop the Civic and it will hold up better in a crash, making it the safer car at that speed.
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I feel bad for the kid and the family.

Something must have gone wrong going down the track. The kid had been driving the car for two years, it is not like he didn't know where the brake pedal was.
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Wow, its so surprising that all these kids on a car forum think that kids are the greatest drivers in the world and should all be given Veyrons to take to the track!
These kids? Granted I haven't been driving as long as you have, but I know I'm far from being Mario Andretti.

You can't tell me you didn't think you were the shit when you first got a car. Everybody goes through that phase. This kid had parents fortunate to buy him a nicer car considering his age.

I valet cars in a nicer part of Raleigh and I park S4s, C63s, and M6s who are being driven by kids younger than I am. Do I agree with the parents decision to buy them that kind of car? I didn't pay for it, so I don't really care. People are always going to make decisions that you don't agree with. That's life



Btw I would take a Caparo T1 over a Veyron on a track any day


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