Any Tire bead breaking advice? (also some shop pictures).
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Any Tire bead breaking advice? (also some shop pictures).
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Around May I finally got motivated to re-do the rear suspension on my truck and put a fresh paint job on it at my grandpa's old shop. I completely overestimated the condition of said shop and I've been wearing myself out almost every evening for the last couple months cleaning and organizing it. My grandpa hasn't used it in any capacity other than storage for at least 10 years (and good for him, he is retired), but I talked to him and he gave me free reign on getting rid of stuff.
I already have the inside reasonably sorted, or atleast I can walk from one side to the other and park cars in it again. The outside is swept and kinda semi organized but now I'm too busy actually taking stuff to the dump to make it usable.
So far I have dumped over 9,000 lbs of trash according to dump receipts, and I'm about to start taking scrap metal away. Hopefully I can get rid of all the metal in one load and move on to the tires.
The dump I am going to use for tires has a fairly reasonable price per ton, but the problem I'm having is they will charge a extra 75 dollars for any load with a tire that is mounted on a wheel. While I have managed to dismount most of the 60 or so tires I still have 8 that I can't get off. A couple of them are just to big for the 1940's manual tire machine my grandpa has down there, but the rest are rusted onto the wheels. If I could just break the bead I can peel them off no problem.
The tool I'm using basically works like the cheap harbor freight units, but you can break both beads and peel off the tire without lifting the tire multiple times. Some of the tires have been sitting on the wheels since the late 60's and early 70's so saying they are rusted on is a understatement. I managed to break the yoke on the large truck tires and had to repair it, and on the rusty VW tires the bead breaker just slips onto the sidewall.
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So, does anybody have any cheap ways to break stubborn tire beads? Destroying the wheels is fine, they are being scrapped.
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Around May I finally got motivated to re-do the rear suspension on my truck and put a fresh paint job on it at my grandpa's old shop. I completely overestimated the condition of said shop and I've been wearing myself out almost every evening for the last couple months cleaning and organizing it. My grandpa hasn't used it in any capacity other than storage for at least 10 years (and good for him, he is retired), but I talked to him and he gave me free reign on getting rid of stuff.
I already have the inside reasonably sorted, or atleast I can walk from one side to the other and park cars in it again. The outside is swept and kinda semi organized but now I'm too busy actually taking stuff to the dump to make it usable.
So far I have dumped over 9,000 lbs of trash according to dump receipts, and I'm about to start taking scrap metal away. Hopefully I can get rid of all the metal in one load and move on to the tires.
The dump I am going to use for tires has a fairly reasonable price per ton, but the problem I'm having is they will charge a extra 75 dollars for any load with a tire that is mounted on a wheel. While I have managed to dismount most of the 60 or so tires I still have 8 that I can't get off. A couple of them are just to big for the 1940's manual tire machine my grandpa has down there, but the rest are rusted onto the wheels. If I could just break the bead I can peel them off no problem.
The tool I'm using basically works like the cheap harbor freight units, but you can break both beads and peel off the tire without lifting the tire multiple times. Some of the tires have been sitting on the wheels since the late 60's and early 70's so saying they are rusted on is a understatement. I managed to break the yoke on the large truck tires and had to repair it, and on the rusty VW tires the bead breaker just slips onto the sidewall.
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So, does anybody have any cheap ways to break stubborn tire beads? Destroying the wheels is fine, they are being scrapped.
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wow I've never seen a tire changing machine like that before. Well its not really a machine but Jesus. Maybe spread some WD-40 on the bead along the entire circumference between the bead/wheel rim and let it set, and try again?
No wonder you've hardly posted recently. Sounds like you did a great job with clean up at least. Out of ideas for rusted on tires though... good luck
No wonder you've hardly posted recently. Sounds like you did a great job with clean up at least. Out of ideas for rusted on tires though... good luck
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Got it. Sawsall, Wd40, Bumper jack, and then Chainsaw.
Thanks all. I guess I'll try the jack with some wd40 and if that doesn't work I'll cut them off. Thought I think I've already covered the entire place in two coats of wd40.
Thanks all. I guess I'll try the jack with some wd40 and if that doesn't work I'll cut them off. Thought I think I've already covered the entire place in two coats of wd40.
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Do not use a chainsaw. If you end up hitting the metal rim with the saw you run the risk of breaking the chain which could result in injury.
Sawsall ftw. Just cut the fuckers up.
Sawsall ftw. Just cut the fuckers up.
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If you can get off 7 and have one stick you are in for the $75, I'd just pay the $$, it's less than $10 each and a whole lot less hassle.
BTW: The changer loolks like a Coates 10-10, I've mounted a lot of tires on one of those. Good unit.
BTW: The changer loolks like a Coates 10-10, I've mounted a lot of tires on one of those. Good unit.
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I don't know what model number it is, but the only coats 10-10's I found online looked powered, but I guess they could have just kept the same model number for whatever machine they were selling that size.
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