Another street racing death
10-15-2007 | 09:53 AM
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Another street racing death
I know exactly where this is; I live about 5 miles from where this happened.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...nid=amn101507e
Teen killed in Lilburn crash
Vehicles may have been racing, witnesses say
Associated Press
Published on: 10/15/07
Gwinnett County police are looking for the driver who may have caused a crash that left a teenager dead in Lilburn.
The three-vehicle accident on Lawrenceville Highway near Sugarloaf Parkway also injured three people — including a pregnant teenager.
Witnesses say one of the cars involved in the wreck and the car that left the scene may have been street racing.
One of the cars lost control just before 7 p.m. Sunday, crossing the centerline and hitting another car head on before sideswiping a sport utility vehicle.
Authorities have not released the names of the victims.
The injured are being treated at Grady Memorial Hospital, Children's Healthcare of Atlanta at Scottish Rite and Gwinnett Medical Center.
Vehicles may have been racing, witnesses say
Associated Press
Published on: 10/15/07
Gwinnett County police are looking for the driver who may have caused a crash that left a teenager dead in Lilburn.
The three-vehicle accident on Lawrenceville Highway near Sugarloaf Parkway also injured three people — including a pregnant teenager.
Witnesses say one of the cars involved in the wreck and the car that left the scene may have been street racing.
One of the cars lost control just before 7 p.m. Sunday, crossing the centerline and hitting another car head on before sideswiping a sport utility vehicle.
Authorities have not released the names of the victims.
The injured are being treated at Grady Memorial Hospital, Children's Healthcare of Atlanta at Scottish Rite and Gwinnett Medical Center.
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to the driver.
10-15-2007 | 11:47 AM
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I think there is a difference between "street racers" and these idiots that want to show how tough they are in the middle of the day on a busy stretch of hwy
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10-15-2007 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
I think there is a difference between "street racers" and these idiots that want to show how small their dick is in the middle of the day on a busy stretch of hwy
fixed.
10-21-2007 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by orgnlprankster7
IMO the best way to help the street racing problem is to open more public tracks 
it's been proven time and time again this won't help. Esp. for the guys who like to show their balls at a stop light. The guys racing at midnight on empty industrial roads won't care either.
10-21-2007 | 02:42 PM
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Sounds like a distinct lack of adequate parenting.
Pregnant teen (strike 1) in a car with street racers (strike 2) gets injured in the crash (strike 3).
Someone needs to smack the shit out of her parents.
Pregnant teen (strike 1) in a car with street racers (strike 2) gets injured in the crash (strike 3).
Someone needs to smack the shit out of her parents.
10-21-2007 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
Sounds like a distinct lack of adequate parenting.
Pregnant teen (strike 1) in a car with street racers (strike 2) gets injured in the crash (strike 3).
Someone needs to smack the shit out of her parents.
Pregnant teen (strike 1) in a car with street racers (strike 2) gets injured in the crash (strike 3).
Someone needs to smack the shit out of her parents.
10-22-2007 | 09:45 AM
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Sorry, I didn't see in the article anything indicating the pregnant teen was a) in one of the cars, b) involved with the racing at all.
Someone want to connect the dots for me and indicate how you "know" that she was in one of the racing cars? Are you psychic?
One of the cars lost control just before 7 p.m. Sunday, crossing the centerline and hitting another car head on before sideswiping a sport utility vehicle.
11-05-2007 | 10:06 AM
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UPDATE: Another street racing death in my area.
http://www.ajc.com/gwinnett/content/...reck_1105.html
Police id teen killed in possible street-racing crash
By SAEED AHMED
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 11/04/07
Investigators released the identity Monday of a teenager who was killed in an apparent street racing wreck Sunday night.
Zohaib Somani, 16, died when a Mazda 6 in which he was riding lost control and struck two other vehicles near Lawrenceville. Gwinnett County's medical examiner identified Somani in a statement on Monday morning.
Somani was a junior at Peachtree Ridge High School, said Jorge Quintana, spokesman for the Gwinnett County school system.
It was the second fatal crash possibly involving street racing reported in the past month by Gwinnett County police.
Witnesses told police that the Mazda and a Honda Accord were speeding east on Sugarloaf Parkway toward Old Norcross Road about 7 p.m. when a third car pulled out of a driveway.
The Honda clipped that vehicle, and the impact caused the Honda to cross the median into oncoming traffic, said county police Cpl. Illana Spellman.
The Mazda, which was traveling behind the Honda, swerved to avoid the first collision, also ended up in oncoming traffic and collided head-on with a Kia Sportage, Spellman said.
The Mazda's driver was critically injured and was taken to a local hospital, police said. The Honda's driver was not hurt, while the drivers of the other two cars were taken to a hospital for evaluation. Police have not yet identified the drivers in the accident.
If it is proven that the two cars were racing, their drivers could each face a felony charge of first-degree vehicular homicide, Spellman said.
On Oct. 14, a man was killed in a wreck that police believe was caused by two drivers racing each other on Lawrenceville Highway.
Witnesses told police that two drivers were racing southbound on Lawrenceville Highway just before dusk on Oct. 14 when they reached a bend in the road near Huston Drive in the Lawrenceville area.
Jeffrey Kim Aviles, 15, lost control of a Toyota Celica he was driving, skidded into the center turn lane and struck a third vehicle head-on, police said.
That car's driver, Leonel Vargas, died at the scene.
By SAEED AHMED
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 11/04/07
Investigators released the identity Monday of a teenager who was killed in an apparent street racing wreck Sunday night.
Zohaib Somani, 16, died when a Mazda 6 in which he was riding lost control and struck two other vehicles near Lawrenceville. Gwinnett County's medical examiner identified Somani in a statement on Monday morning.
Somani was a junior at Peachtree Ridge High School, said Jorge Quintana, spokesman for the Gwinnett County school system.
It was the second fatal crash possibly involving street racing reported in the past month by Gwinnett County police.
Witnesses told police that the Mazda and a Honda Accord were speeding east on Sugarloaf Parkway toward Old Norcross Road about 7 p.m. when a third car pulled out of a driveway.
The Honda clipped that vehicle, and the impact caused the Honda to cross the median into oncoming traffic, said county police Cpl. Illana Spellman.
The Mazda, which was traveling behind the Honda, swerved to avoid the first collision, also ended up in oncoming traffic and collided head-on with a Kia Sportage, Spellman said.
The Mazda's driver was critically injured and was taken to a local hospital, police said. The Honda's driver was not hurt, while the drivers of the other two cars were taken to a hospital for evaluation. Police have not yet identified the drivers in the accident.
If it is proven that the two cars were racing, their drivers could each face a felony charge of first-degree vehicular homicide, Spellman said.
On Oct. 14, a man was killed in a wreck that police believe was caused by two drivers racing each other on Lawrenceville Highway.
Witnesses told police that two drivers were racing southbound on Lawrenceville Highway just before dusk on Oct. 14 when they reached a bend in the road near Huston Drive in the Lawrenceville area.
Jeffrey Kim Aviles, 15, lost control of a Toyota Celica he was driving, skidded into the center turn lane and struck a third vehicle head-on, police said.
That car's driver, Leonel Vargas, died at the scene.
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11-05-2007 | 10:57 AM
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I know street racing is stupid and a dumbass move but im not gonna sit here and pretend ive never done it. what pisses me off is the quick conclusion that it was street racing. so teens + crash = street racing? what if the teens were just speeding? ive followed friends at high speeds with no intention of racing. every law enforcement agency in the country knows the battle against street racing is a losing battle. there is absolutely no way they can stop it. They are startin to blame every accident on street racing that involves teens. atleast around here. im not sayin i know what happened they might have been racing they might not have been racing. they need to find the evidence instead of speculating. they way they word it in the article it makes it seem like they are guilty until proven innocent
oh yea if a 3rd car pulled out of a driveway onto oncoming traffic isnt it the teens right of way regardless. shouldnt that 3rd car be held responsible for causing the crash? they dont even have an approximate speed the teens were traveling at. they should be able to approximate by the tread left on the road from the braking
oh yea if a 3rd car pulled out of a driveway onto oncoming traffic isnt it the teens right of way regardless. shouldnt that 3rd car be held responsible for causing the crash? they dont even have an approximate speed the teens were traveling at. they should be able to approximate by the tread left on the road from the braking
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11-05-2007 | 12:50 PM
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Yeah I see what you are saying, but if you knew this area you would see why it was assumed to be street racing. It's an everday occurence. Everytime I'm out in this area, I'm sure to see at least one incident where two or more people in riced out rides who are racing each other on public roads. And everytime I've seen it, it were kids who were behind the wheel. And even if they weren't "street racing" but "just speeding" is that supposed to make it OK? Even if the Accord had nothing to do with the accident, it still doesn't negate the fact that the person in the Mazda was probably going way too fast.
I don't think they are blaming EVERY teen accident on street racing, but they do blame it on speed. A good number of accidents that involve teens to begin with involve them losing control of their car due to driving too fast. (I'm sure you've heard "speed was a factor"). When other cars are involved, its easy to suspect street racing.
This wasn't a case of just one teen losing control of his car and running off the road. The witnessess say they saw him another another car "speeding" right before the accident occured. Who in their right might WOULDN'T at first suspect street racing?
Street racing or not, teens drive way too fast to begin with. And yes teens certainly aren't the only ones who speed, but many teens don't have the proper experience to be able to handle their cars at such high rates of speed.
Every week it seems there is a story on the news about how some teenagers were killed in a car accident and almost everytime speed was a factor. In fact just yesterday in church, a girl told us about how she lost her friend last week in a car accident.
oh yea if a 3rd car pulled out of a driveway onto oncoming traffic isnt it the teens right of way regardless. shouldnt that 3rd car be held responsible for causing the crash? they dont even have an approximate speed the teens were traveling at. they should be able to approximate by the tread left on the road from the braking
Actually no. The teen would be at fault as well if it can be proven he was speeding. Yes he technically has the right of way, but right of way doesn't mean you are free to speed. He would be just as liable for the accident as the person pulling out in front of him. I don't think the argument, "Your honor, yes I was going 70 in a 45 (for example), but this guy pulled right out in front of me..." would hold up in court very well.
If this kid had been driving like he was supposed to, he more than likley would have been able to stop in time, or better yet the driver pulling out of the driveway would have seen him coming, not pulled out, and this accident wouldn't have happened in the first place.
I don't think they are blaming EVERY teen accident on street racing, but they do blame it on speed. A good number of accidents that involve teens to begin with involve them losing control of their car due to driving too fast. (I'm sure you've heard "speed was a factor"). When other cars are involved, its easy to suspect street racing.
This wasn't a case of just one teen losing control of his car and running off the road. The witnessess say they saw him another another car "speeding" right before the accident occured. Who in their right might WOULDN'T at first suspect street racing?
Street racing or not, teens drive way too fast to begin with. And yes teens certainly aren't the only ones who speed, but many teens don't have the proper experience to be able to handle their cars at such high rates of speed.
Every week it seems there is a story on the news about how some teenagers were killed in a car accident and almost everytime speed was a factor. In fact just yesterday in church, a girl told us about how she lost her friend last week in a car accident.
Originally Posted by S1CK TypeS
oh yea if a 3rd car pulled out of a driveway onto oncoming traffic isnt it the teens right of way regardless. shouldnt that 3rd car be held responsible for causing the crash? they dont even have an approximate speed the teens were traveling at. they should be able to approximate by the tread left on the road from the braking
If this kid had been driving like he was supposed to, he more than likley would have been able to stop in time, or better yet the driver pulling out of the driveway would have seen him coming, not pulled out, and this accident wouldn't have happened in the first place.
11-05-2007 | 01:05 PM
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oh i dont doubt he was speeding. but speeding is a different crime from racing. speeding is done by people across the age chart. im jus irratated by the stereotyping. i dont understand how they plan on proving they were street racing when witnesses said they were speeding.
I agree with you that teens are wreckless, inexpireinced and they need to slow down. i was a teen a few years back i learned my lessons. made me a better driver today and i know the limits of my car and the road.
if they havent proved they two were street racing then they shouldnt speculate it to the papers. the speeding was obvious and will be proven. seems to me like they are tryin to make an example of someone since you say this happens everyday on tht road and this kid is gonna be the skapegoat.
sorry i jus have a different way of thinkin about this
I agree with you that teens are wreckless, inexpireinced and they need to slow down. i was a teen a few years back i learned my lessons. made me a better driver today and i know the limits of my car and the road.
if they havent proved they two were street racing then they shouldnt speculate it to the papers. the speeding was obvious and will be proven. seems to me like they are tryin to make an example of someone since you say this happens everyday on tht road and this kid is gonna be the skapegoat.
sorry i jus have a different way of thinkin about this
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11-05-2007 | 01:25 PM
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I definetely see your point about the differences between racing and speeding, and general stereotyping typing of teen drivers in traffic accidents. I guess that's just how our papers are though. At least once a week it seems there is another teen driver related death and whenever there is just a possiblity that it was because of racing they don't hesitate to put it in the story. Even if involved, I highly doubt this kid will be made the "skapegoat" though. Eventhough its the first two occurences I have heard of in my area recently, this has been going on in Atlanta for the longest, and we never hear anything more about the story or what happened to the people involved.But yeah it's pretty bad around here. In fact, since I've been here, people have even been trying to bait me into racing them at stoplights. I just ignore them. I just hope one day a cop pulls them over while I'm around so I can
as I drive by.
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