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Old 08-08-2006 | 10:15 AM
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Acuras are getting Expensive

$49-53k - 06 RL
$45k+ - 07 MDX
$39k - 07 TL Type S
$38k - 07 RDX
The previous generation TLS and CLs were like $32k or less.
I bought Acuras cause they were loaded for the price.
I guess all cars are getting more expensive.
Old 08-08-2006 | 10:17 AM
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If i'm not mistaken, the Legends in the early and mid 90's were in the low 40's, the 1st generation TL was 30 to 35k, the RL started around 43 or 44.
Old 08-08-2006 | 10:37 AM
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That's why I say if there's a CL replacement it's going to be $45K+
New Acura's are getting pricey. Not all cars are.
The 01-03 CL/TL was a loaded car for the $$, & steal.... Not anymore.
Old 08-08-2006 | 10:44 AM
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$40K for TL type-S
Old 08-08-2006 | 10:50 AM
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I saw an article somewhere last year (maybe Edmunds?) that said the average new car price is now $28k. That's pretty high I think. Seems all cars are getting more expensive. And it's not like everyone's salary is increasing so much, and the cost of living is going up....so where do they think people are getting all this money?!
Old 08-08-2006 | 10:58 AM
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well seeing that Accords and Camries are pushing $30k and Civics are pushing $20k, I'd say that Acura is getting pricy compared to the past generations, but they are still trying to be the value leader...but it seems they are trying to get away from that (and about time too).
Old 08-08-2006 | 11:03 AM
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$40K for TL type-S
AND that thing is front wheel drive
Old 08-08-2006 | 11:30 AM
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So what am I missing here? When did Acura come out with a Type S again.

I feel like i am missing out on the joke
Old 08-08-2006 | 11:35 AM
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The 07 will have a Type-S
Old 08-08-2006 | 11:37 AM
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So what am I missing here? When did Acura come out with a Type S again.

I feel like i am missing out on the joke


Check the Auto News section..

Old 08-08-2006 | 11:53 AM
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Meh that whole segment is getting pricey. Most acuras, bmw, audi, benz, even VW and Infiniti are jacking prices up. Not just Acura.
Old 08-08-2006 | 12:19 PM
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Most newer cars have so many different things compared to cars of the past like satellite radio and tpms. I would still pay that price for the 07 Type-S..I really like their changes.
Old 08-08-2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
The 07 will have a Type-S


man I have not been spending enough time on this site anymore
Old 08-08-2006 | 12:56 PM
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Check the Auto News section..

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Old 08-08-2006 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
well seeing that Accords and Camries are pushing $30k and Civics are pushing $20k, I'd say that Acura is getting pricy compared to the past generations, but they are still trying to be the value leader...but it seems they are trying to get away from that (and about time too).
exactly. All cars are getting more expensive which is one reason the microeconobox segment is growing. The Fit/Versa/xA/xB/etc. are coming around and getting popular.
Old 08-08-2006 | 02:52 PM
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Do people not go into Automotive news?

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&page=16&pp=25 all the info you ever wanted for the 07 TL and TLS
Old 08-08-2006 | 03:17 PM
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US prices are still comparably cheaper than CDN prices, even taking into account duties, inspections, exchange rate, etc.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articl...fferential.htm

Special Feature - Canada/U.S. vehicle price differences: why Canadians pay more
Old 08-08-2006 | 04:03 PM
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Acura is trying to move up market. Unfortunately, you don't gain prestige by lowering your prices.
Old 08-08-2006 | 04:24 PM
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$40k for FWD muhahahaahaa... Acura is crazy...
Old 08-08-2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Acura is trying to move up market. Unfortunately, you don't gain prestige by lowering your prices.

people feel they are buying top notch when they pay top dollar
Old 08-08-2006 | 05:20 PM
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people feel they are buying top notch when they pay top dollar

I dont agree with that.

RL moved its price upscale and it didnt do much for its image. IMO
Old 08-08-2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by runnerX
$40k for FWD muhahahaahaa... Acura is crazy...
I agree that it's a tough sell, but the TL is still selling at a decent rate...

I guess the average TL buyer is over 40 making 100K plus a year... (from the TL thread in automotive news).

If this keeps up, I'll be priced out fo being able to rationalize buying an Acura...
Old 08-08-2006 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I dont agree with that.

RL moved its price upscale and it didnt do much for its image. IMO

a FWD based super-douper handling fat accord doesn't do it for you either, eh ??

If I'm going to pay BMW type prices for an acura... I might as well just... well, you know
Old 08-08-2006 | 07:31 PM
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Just for more HP, front lights on the bottom ( look stupid) and the Type-S badge i'll pass....
Old 08-08-2006 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by F900
Just for more HP, front lights on the bottom ( look stupid) and the Type-S badge i'll pass....
It doesn't look that sinister to me
Old 08-08-2006 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by runnerX
$40k for FWD muhahahaahaa... Acura is crazy...

http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/....jsp?model=dts

Old 08-08-2006 | 10:29 PM
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will that elevated Acura price still include crappy and apathetic service reps? just wondering.

note: post does not contain red-colored lettering.
Old 08-08-2006 | 11:23 PM
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A DTS is a true luxury car; an Acura TL isn't.
Old 08-09-2006 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
A DTS is a true luxury car; an Acura TL isn't.

No one said anything about luxury. The person I quoted stated Acura was crazy for offering a FWD car for 40k.......


I'd also like to point out the Audi A6 bases at 40k and comes standard with FWD.....
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Originally Posted by Minch00
No one said anything about luxury. The person I quoted stated Acura was crazy for offering a FWD car for 40k.......


I'd also like to point out the Audi A6 bases at 40k and comes standard with FWD.....
and the A6 is struggling right up there with the RL. But then again, Audi already has an image and AWD is available throughout their lineup...you can only get AWD with the RL or an Acura SUV.

As for the DTS...Caddy knows it's crazy, that's why all their models are switching to RWD, and DTS will be the next to go.

Acura isn't alone though...Volvo offers its s80 V6 (which is like $40k-ish) with FWD.
Old 08-09-2006 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
No one said anything about luxury. The person I quoted stated Acura was crazy for offering a FWD car for 40k.......


I'd also like to point out the Audi A6 bases at 40k and comes standard with FWD.....
Do not forget the Lexus ES350, which is also front wheel drive costs $41,384 fully loaded.
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if there were no luxury cars with front wheel drive then many people would stop buying luxury cars since a great number of these customers live in the snowbelt. or they would go to the competition. i imagine it has to be tough to balance a business decision like that. especially when the honda platforms are all geared towards FWD anyway. even a vehicle like the pilot is FWD with "rear assist". you ever look at the "axles" they have in the rear? they're basically tie-rods.

not that i don't think they should offer some FWD options, but to eliminate them alltogether is a bad business move. the CL (if it happens) should be RWD.

and the MSRP for the 1995 legend was $36k-$42k (as show here). so i don't necessarily think acura is *getting* expensive.

but hey, i would rather pay $38k for a new type S than $31k for a chevy impala SS.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I dont agree with that.

RL moved its price upscale and it didnt do much for its image. IMO

Thats because its competitors were 1, priced higher, and 2 had a V8 option.
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Old 08-09-2006 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverTypS
if there were no luxury cars with front wheel drive then many people would stop buying luxury cars since a great number of these customers live in the snowbelt. or they would go to the competition. i imagine it has to be tough to balance a business decision like that. especially when the honda platforms are all geared towards FWD anyway. even a vehicle like the pilot is FWD with "rear assist". you ever look at the "axles" they have in the rear? they're basically tie-rods.

not that i don't think they should offer some FWD options, but to eliminate them alltogether is a bad business move. the CL (if it happens) should be RWD.

but hey, i would rather pay $38k for a new type S than $31k for a chevy impala SS.

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Well stated. Outside of the FWD-biased RX, the FWD ES is probably Lexus' best selling car so it can work for Acura as well.

It seems that Infiniti pondered likewise back in the 90s: FWD (I30/G20) vs RWD (M30/J30/Q45). With the discontinuation of the I35, it seems that the G35X (and later the M35X) worked out to be a great compromise.

I agree with you on the Type S vs Impala SS reference. But, in all fairness to the Impala SS, a fully loaded model can be acquired for ~$27k OTD. (It ranks pretty much even with the Stang GT when it comes to bang-for-the-buck.)
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Well stated. Outside of the FWD-biased RX, the FWD ES is probably Lexus' best selling car so it can work for Acura as well.

It seems that Infiniti pondered likewise back in the 90s: FWD (I30/G20) vs RWD (M30/J30/Q45). With the discontinuation of the I35, it seems that the G35X (and later the M35X) worked out to be a great compromise.

I agree with you on the Type S vs Impala SS reference. But, in all fairness to the Impala SS, a fully loaded model can be acquired for ~$27k OTD. (It ranks pretty much even with the Stang GT when it comes to bang-for-the-buck.)
oh i have no doubt that you could get an impala for cheaper if you haggle. i was merely quoting the chevy site's MSRP with some tax on it. my personal opinion about chevy though is that they are not worth the money. and i have owned two chevy's previously and i liked them but i wouldn't turn away a TL for one. chevy doesn't impress me any more. only their cadillac arm has tempted me with the V-series CTS......

i really think the future of acura lies in offering *options*. RWD vs. AWD is the most logical choice but you have to keep a FWD car in your line up, and let's face it, if the tsx was the only FWD car acura offered their sales would go right down the drain. i had to turn down BMW and Inifiniti and Lexus models when i first was buying the tl because i need to have FWD in the winter and i *really* didn't want an SUV. alot of people are in the same boat.

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Leasing, the best option, taking into account high residual brand/models. It does not matter the MSRP. The payment would increse just a tad
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Leasing, the best option, taking into account high residual brand/models. It does not matter the MSRP. The payment would increse just a tad
i see what you're saying and i agree with the concept but i have a tough time doing that because you're always paying for something you never own. as far as economics are concerned your generally better off owning a vehicle over the long term and getting enough use out of it to the point that it doesn't owe you anything.

case in point: my father owns a 99 avalon. purchased brand new. by the time he had it 4-5 years he had racked up enough miles that the trade in was much less than the remaining principle on the loan. he now has 200k miles on it and has only needed to replace the water pump. i would be willing to say he is ahead of the game since it's been paid off for some time and he is saving money that he would have otherwise been spending on a lease.

the smartest way to *own* a car is to buy it once it's out of lease. i paid $10k less for my 02 TL-S with only 27k miles on it after it came out of it's lease. had i bought the car new i would owe more than it was worth after 3 years, but had i leased it then i would have a new car (which is very nice), but i wouldn't own anything. as it stands my principle and the worth of the car have been riding neck and neck since 2004 when i bought the car. it's just the thought to me that after 5-8 years of leasing you could have owned the car had it been purchased with a loan.

plus i'm just bitching because i drive too many miles a year to lease something

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