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Old 02-01-2017, 05:49 PM
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Are you prepared to pay 5-6K more for it? Saw the price of that Q50 TT?

I would prefer a NA 3.8L 325HP, much cheaper... BTW, 2018 A-spec or whatever is coming....

I was going to buy a 3G in 2005... BMW's lease conditions won. Loved that E46, no matter the HP deficit.

Yes, I'll pay the difference for a vehicle that is factory boosted and tuned. Let's say you bought a non turbo verison of the same vehicle, you eventually you had the "Need more power" itch, by the time you end up going down that path of force induction, it's the same cost if not more than what you would have paid to begin with. Again, it's not for everyone, but there are plenty of people out there that want more performance. Mercedes has moved all their 400 and 450 series over to "43". Mercedes wants more people to be part of the "AMG" line up. Best part is, Rennetech makes a tune (stage 1 and 2) for most of the current line up and it's dealership installed, so it won't void warranty. Put it this way a C43 or C450 (same vehicle) with a stage 2 Renntech tune, is about .4 off from a C63. Not bad for a V6 Bi-turbo 4matic. Look at the other manufactures out there, pushing the limit with engines and technology. Unfortunately, Acura is way behind, even with the 2018 TLX, it still won't compete with anything in it's class.
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Yes, I'll pay the difference for a vehicle that is factory boosted and tuned. Let's say you bought a non turbo verison of the same vehicle, you eventually you had the "Need more power" itch, by the time you end up going down that path of force induction, it's the same cost if not more than what you would have paid to begin with. Again, it's not for everyone, but there are plenty of people out there that was more performance. Mercedes has moved all their 400 and 450 series over to "43". Mercedes wants more people to be part of the "AMG" line up. Best part is, Rennetech makes a tune (stage 1 and 2) for most of the current line up and it's dealership installed, so it won't void warranty. Put it this way a C43 or C450 (same vehicle) with a stage 2 Renntech tune, is about .4 off from a C63. Not bad for a V6 Bi-turbo 4matic. Look at the other manufactures out there, pushing the limit with engines and technology. Unfortunately, Acura is way behind, even with the 2018 TLX, it still won't compete with anything in it's class.
Then you need to move on and go to another forum.
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Then you need to move on and go to another forum.

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No idea why I should move on and go to another forum. It's my opinion and If I get a Mercedes, I'm still staying here. So get use to it.
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Then you need to move on and go to another forum.
Or he can stay and you can ignore his posts because you obviously can't stand dissent..

Maybe you can start a new forum where everyone just circle jerks each other on how awesome your car is, call it "AcuraSafeSpace"
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So you'll get an opportunity to "iWhine" (your avatar) forever.
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Or he can stay and you can ignore his posts because you obviously can't stand dissent..

Maybe you can start a new forum where everyone just circle jerks each other on how awesome your car is, call it "AcuraSafeSpace"
Well there should be LESS moderators and ones that are DEFINITELY more Acura enthusiasts.
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Talk to upper management.
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Or he can stay and you can ignore his posts because you obviously can't stand dissent..

Maybe you can start a new forum where everyone just circle jerks each other on how awesome your car is, call it "AcuraSafeSpace"
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks

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So you'll get an opportunity to "iWhine" (your avatar) forever.
Thank you, it was my old youtube page from videos I uploaded from my Iphone about my Supercharged TL. I'm sure you can connect the dots now on why it says iWhine.

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Well there should be LESS moderators and ones that are DEFINITELY more Acura enthusiasts.
Enjoy your vacation

Besides, your opinion is and will be forever invalid because it's simple one of a fanboi. You can't have a decent conversation with anyone because you can't discuss other options other than the TLX. We can now thank you once again for derailing this topic. #howbowdat
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks



Thank you, it was my old youtube page from videos I uploaded from my Iphone about my Supercharged TL. I'm sure you can connect the dots now on why it says iWhine.



Enjoy your vacation

Besides, your opinion is and will be forever invalid because it's simple one of a fanboi. You can't have a decent conversation with anyone because you can't discuss other options other than the TLX. We can now thank you once again for derailing this topic. #howbowdat
Nice attempt.
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Nice attempt.

You were warned multiple times before. You can go back to some of your old posts and see which moderators have warned you. You should attempt to engage in a conversation properly, or just ignore a post. If you'd like to continue this, shoot me a PM.
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Nice attempt.
Ditto to you.

You take so much of the criticism of the car itd almost as if it were you own first born.. If you can't take off the rose-colored glasses , why do you bother reading these threads? You're preaching is going on deaf ears.. I think it is YOU that needs to find the new forum.
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Then you need to move on and go to another forum.
how about we just ban you forever?
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Ditto to you.

You take so much of the criticism of the car itd almost as if it were you own first born.. If you can't take off the rose-colored glasses , why do you bother reading these threads? You're preaching is going on deaf ears.. I think it is YOU that needs to find the new forum.
Oh no, very open here and there is no " rose-colored glasses". There is definitely some truth to what I am saying.

No matter the "iWhiners".
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Then you need to move on and go to another forum.
Quir being a fucking asshole and telling people what to do.

Gus OWNS a fucking TL that he built with his hands from the ground up and STILL drives. He's contributed plenty to this forum and has helped plenty as well. He will shit all over a failing brand all he wants and if you don't fucking like it, don't click the fucking link.

What kind of fucking tool goes into a thread titled "Acura quality gone down" and expects happy discussions about how fucking wonderful and great things are? Quit being an asshole and if you don't like the title, stay the fuck out.

And last I checked, Acura's entire sales are DOWN 10% over last year. Way to go, Acura!
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Quir being a fucking asshole and telling people what to do.:
lol.

And last I checked, Acura's entire sales are DOWN 10% over last year. Way to go, Acura!
And how is doing BMW?
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The fucking moron doesn't even know the whine a supercharger makes, which is exactly what Gus is referring to. Instead he chooses to once again be a condescending asshole.

Sorry mods, I know I'm flying off the hook here, but I try and try and try to smile and nod with this prick and it blows my mind what a dick he is to anyone and everyone who so much as looks at an Acura with a crooked eye.
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Well you are the one going over the top. And you con-ti-nu-ous-ly, CONTINOUSLY despite Acura.

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lol.And how is doing BMW?
I dunno, go check the BMW forums.

You seem to fit the target demographic
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Are you saying the BMW demographic is imbeciles?

Berates long standing member of not being an enthusiast when he has one of the few boosted TLs here..
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I dunno, go check the BMW forums.

You seem to fit the target demographic
Assuming you have NO prejudice, care to explain us what is wrong with that?

Good luck.
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Assuming you have NO prejudice, care to explain us what is wrong with that?

Good luck.
Just out of curiosity...

Do you care the slightest bit that you completely turned this guys thread into a shit fest?
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Just out of curiosity...

Do you care the slightest bit that you completely turned this guys thread into a shit fest?
He's like the Shit Midas of Acurazine, every thread he touches goes to shit..
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He's like the Shit Midas of Acurazine, every thread he touches goes to shit..
Would be fine if you showed some "Acura enthusiasm", like your "upper management" expected you so.

.... totally the contrary.
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I haven't gotten the memo yet


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Saintor, I would happily pay your annual GoDaddy subscription if you host your own forum for all of your fellow circle jerkers.


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Saintor, I would happily pay your annual GoDaddy subscription if you host your own forum for all of your fellow circle jerkers.

Is it really a circle jerk if theres only one french canadian pulling pud?
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Is it really a circle jerk if theres only one french canadian pulling pud?
If that's the case, I'll pay for 6 years.
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Maybe he's walking around in a circle while doing it..?
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Yeah, isn't it what is a private domain address all about?

People who knows better willl protect the asset here - ACURA.
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Then you need to move on and go to another forum.
No, he doesn't. You don't get to choose the make up of the population of this board. You've been at the root of this derail long enough. Tone it down. Consider this your warning.
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Hey 04WDPSeDaN,

Thanks for the reply to my thoughts above. Great insight into some of the inner workings of the auto repair/dealer world! Still curious to see if there are secret stashes of hard data on part failures that OEMs keep track of....guessing there is but likely the public will never see them.

But that was quite an interesting read. Definitely wish I had a friend who had that kind of knowledge/connection.
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Yeah, isn't it what is a private domain address all about?

People who knows better willl protect the asset here - ACURA.
Just so I understand you. Ive been here almost 13 years. Owned 2 Acuras. Hosted a ton of meets. Made lots of friends, who still own acuras

Have a good friend, who not only sold me my TL in 05 but is now the GM of an Acura dealership. Are you saying that because my opinion has changed I shouldnt be a mod?

I dont hate them, I just feel they could be doing alot better. This site wouldnt be what it is if we were all as biased as you.
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Acura dropped 7 spots.. quality has gone down.
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JD Quality List.. worst in powertrain (mechanical and design) as well as overall quality
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No, he doesn't. You don't get to choose the make up of the population of this board. You've been at the root of this derail long enough. Tone it down. Consider this your warning.
That makes it the 2nd warning.
I warned him when he derailed it on the first page.
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And how is doing BMW?
Better than Acura despite your failed attempt to make people think otherwise....

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Well the 3-series dropped even more.... does it make it a bad car?
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It did? Must be one of them alternative facts because according to http://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswir.../02/01/NY02419 , not only did 3 series sales go up but so did overall BMW sales (Jan. 2016 vs Jan. 2017), meanwhile TLX sales are down as are overall Acura sales.

Jan. 2016 vs Jan 2017
BMW 3 series : 3,287 vs 4,032 . . . . an increase of 22.67%
Acura TLX : 2,239 vs 1,903 . . . . a decrease of 15.01%

BMW overall : 18,082 vs 18,109 . . . . an increase of 0.15%
Acura overall : 10,250 vs 9,202 . . . . a decrease of 10.2%

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Just out of curiosity...

Do you care the slightest bit that you completely turned this guys thread into a shit fest?
Originally Posted by thoiboi
He's like the Shit Midas of Acurazine, every thread he touches goes to shit..
Maybe he feels the need to fill in during SSFTSX's absence.
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you know whats funny?
Saintor was on BMW's NUTS a few years ago.
that's where his avatar comes into play.
he maintained that ESP would save you.....
but now, he flipped 360 and is on acura nuts...

fuck outta here
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That makes it the 2nd warning.
I warned him when he derailed it on the first page.
Then the ice is thinner than I thought.
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