A4 Avant vs. Infiniti EX35?
12-05-2009, 11:42 PM
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A4 Avant vs. Infiniti EX35?
In a recent thread, I discussed about the decision between Q5 and A4 Avant. At that time, I was really favoring the Q5. However, I went to another dealer today, and test drove the Q5 and A4 Avant back-to-back again, and then I realized how much better the A4 Avant was, in terms of handling! The Q5 was very smooth, but not as sporty as the Avant. It felt much softer than the Avant, and it surely felt "larger" as well. Still, the Q5 was a great vehicle.
Then the biggest surprise came when I thought I might as well test drive the EX35. The first surprise was that, the rear leg room was surely not spacious, but it was nowhere near what I was imagining! The second surprise was how this vehicle handled - it did not feel like driving a CUV at all! I thought I was driving a sportscar!!!! The EX35 felt very solid and sporty. In fact, I think that the handling was the best of the three (EX35, A4 Avant and Q5). The interior space though, was the smallest. The gas mileage is better with the Audi's. Then in terms of reliability, I have no doubt that Infiniti would win hands down.
The 2010 EX35 has a $3000 dealer cash offer running right now. So, for a loaded EX35 (with the Premium, nav, Bose and Tech packages) with an MSRP of $44,415, according to Carsdirect, it can be had for $38,739, which is almost $5,700 below its MSRP! Furthermore, it is also about $7000 thousands below the Carsdirect price of the A4 Avant Prestige, which is comparably equipped to this EX35.
Personally, I really don't need a ton of rear legroom (the car is only for me). So, I am now very tempted with the EX35! What do you say?
Then the biggest surprise came when I thought I might as well test drive the EX35. The first surprise was that, the rear leg room was surely not spacious, but it was nowhere near what I was imagining! The second surprise was how this vehicle handled - it did not feel like driving a CUV at all! I thought I was driving a sportscar!!!! The EX35 felt very solid and sporty. In fact, I think that the handling was the best of the three (EX35, A4 Avant and Q5). The interior space though, was the smallest. The gas mileage is better with the Audi's. Then in terms of reliability, I have no doubt that Infiniti would win hands down.
The 2010 EX35 has a $3000 dealer cash offer running right now. So, for a loaded EX35 (with the Premium, nav, Bose and Tech packages) with an MSRP of $44,415, according to Carsdirect, it can be had for $38,739, which is almost $5,700 below its MSRP! Furthermore, it is also about $7000 thousands below the Carsdirect price of the A4 Avant Prestige, which is comparably equipped to this EX35.
Personally, I really don't need a ton of rear legroom (the car is only for me). So, I am now very tempted with the EX35! What do you say?
12-06-2009, 01:15 AM
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EX35 is a wasteful POS as far as I'm concerned. It was designed to give the appearance of utility whilst really having none at all.
The two cant even be compared. The A4 has more usable cargo space and its an all around better vehicle hands down.
The EX is poorest excuse for a vehicle in inifinti's otherwise solid line up.
The two cant even be compared. The A4 has more usable cargo space and its an all around better vehicle hands down.
The EX is poorest excuse for a vehicle in inifinti's otherwise solid line up.
12-06-2009, 06:34 AM
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ehhh, they were trying to convince me to get into the EX at the dealer a year ago or so. At the time it was a $7,000 cash incentive and I still hated it. It drove ok but it was so small and so damn ugly. On the test drive I felt like I was an old man and was actually embarrassed passing cars
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12-06-2009, 08:54 AM
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WOW! You guys surely don't have any strong opinion, eh? LOL!
Actually, in terms of looks, that is very subjective. I personally like the looks of the EX. I made it a point to sit in it, adjusted the driver's seat and the went to the back seat to see how it was. It was actually OK! The thing is that, there was a well under the front seat so the back passenger could put their feet underneath. So this was quite a bit different from the G sedan, where there was no room under the seat when I saw it yesterday. So it was small, esp. when compared to the Q5, but it was OK.
Anyway, the X1 would be really great for me, I THINK (without having seen it). But the thing is that, I don't think I can wait that long.... sigh!
Keep the opinions coming! :-)
Actually, in terms of looks, that is very subjective. I personally like the looks of the EX. I made it a point to sit in it, adjusted the driver's seat and the went to the back seat to see how it was. It was actually OK! The thing is that, there was a well under the front seat so the back passenger could put their feet underneath. So this was quite a bit different from the G sedan, where there was no room under the seat when I saw it yesterday. So it was small, esp. when compared to the Q5, but it was OK.
Anyway, the X1 would be really great for me, I THINK (without having seen it). But the thing is that, I don't think I can wait that long.... sigh!
Keep the opinions coming! :-)
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12-06-2009, 01:15 PM
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Upscale baby "SUVs" are amongst the most non-useful vehicles ever-- very little space for the footprint, heavier than the more capacious sedan/station wagon, slower, etc.
Oh, and the EX is ugly, too.
12-06-2009, 01:19 PM
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The Audi.
IMO, the Infiniti is just too ugly to even consider, though if you can get past that, you really have to consider the bang-for-the-buck factor with the price difference.
IMO, the Infiniti is just too ugly to even consider, though if you can get past that, you really have to consider the bang-for-the-buck factor with the price difference.
12-06-2009, 01:41 PM
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I don't think the EX35 is an ugly car. I think it's a tall G35 wagon from the previous generation. Unfortunately, tall wagons normally work well as designs people lust after.
I would go with the Audi because the B8 is an exceptional car. The Infiniti is probably a good one as well but the A4 Avant is so big that it's probably far more useful for carrying people and junk than the EX.
I would go with the Audi because the B8 is an exceptional car. The Infiniti is probably a good one as well but the A4 Avant is so big that it's probably far more useful for carrying people and junk than the EX.
12-06-2009, 01:42 PM
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I work for INfiniti and also thought the EX was a waste of time and space, But after driving it , My opinions have changed GREATLY.. The backseat is a little tight but the handling and the options make up for it. If you get the round view camera you get the free nav, with 9.3GB hd and u can play music and movies Via bloutooth. The nav also has navweather, traffic, and zagat.. The nav id hd BASED and is 2nd to none. Cunsomer reports actully rated Infiniti nav No#1 last year out of 60+ systems... Before anyone bashes the infinity they drive it!
12-06-2009, 03:12 PM
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OK, OK, OK.... so you guys really like the EX35! LOL! But just like what StonedCL said, the EX35 did not seem that great.... UNTIL YOU DRIVE IT! It was a blast to drive that thing yesterday! That's why I am now thoroughly confused... it was NEVER on my list before, but now having driven it, I am also looking at it completely differently.
If it's a G35 wagon, then that is great! Cos that's what I would like... LOL
That said, yes, the B8 Avant is a great looking vehicle. With the options that I want, it would have to be a custom order. It would be about $8000 more than the EX35 and also I will have to wait for 3 months. The very nice salesperson tried very hard to look at what is on order and what is being shipped for the entire region for me yesterday. Can you believe it? No one order Brilliant Red, Aruba Blue or Meteor Gray... they are mostly black! Having had a black TSX, I am NOT going to go with another black car.... LOL
If it's a G35 wagon, then that is great! Cos that's what I would like... LOL
That said, yes, the B8 Avant is a great looking vehicle. With the options that I want, it would have to be a custom order. It would be about $8000 more than the EX35 and also I will have to wait for 3 months. The very nice salesperson tried very hard to look at what is on order and what is being shipped for the entire region for me yesterday. Can you believe it? No one order Brilliant Red, Aruba Blue or Meteor Gray... they are mostly black! Having had a black TSX, I am NOT going to go with another black car.... LOL
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12-06-2009, 06:21 PM
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you test drove both vehicles already. You sure sound like you are in love with the EX35, so why don't you get it?
you test drove both vehicles already. You sure sound like you are in love with the EX35, so why don't you get it?
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12-06-2009, 06:24 PM
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Oh yeah, I vote CX-7 too.
12-06-2009, 08:14 PM
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The EX is agreat deal if Audi still inported the S4 Avant you might have a keeper, the 2.0 is not my cup of tea. Have you looked at the CTS DI wagon, I have not seen one, but pics arre cool. Might look for a used s4 avant they are rare or go whole hog with an E63 touring.
12-06-2009, 09:03 PM
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If you will be the only driver and since you have mentioned not caring about rear seat legroom or cargo space, why look at a wagon or CUV/SUV at all? There are so many more sedans and coupes to choose from that will give you exactly what you need if space, utility, and room for passengers isn't a huge priority. Way more options than what you're looking at....
12-06-2009, 09:56 PM
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12-07-2009, 09:51 AM
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Get the Avant S-Line, you will not regret it. There's no way the EX handles better than that. Of course you have to see what you can afford. Don't let the 3-month wait be a factor, wait for the car you actually want.
And if you insist on a wagon do check out the CTS, it really look amazing (more in person than in pics). If you're looking for flashy styling you might like it better than the A4, although the car is inferior to the A4 from a technical point of view (bigger engine but slower and uses more gas despite being about the same size inside).
And if you insist on a wagon do check out the CTS, it really look amazing (more in person than in pics). If you're looking for flashy styling you might like it better than the A4, although the car is inferior to the A4 from a technical point of view (bigger engine but slower and uses more gas despite being about the same size inside).
12-07-2009, 10:30 AM
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I was actully looking to lease on of our leftover 09 ex's B4 I leased my TSX. The numbers did not work though.. The car is the perfect size fo getting in and out , you don't have to sit up into it nor down into it, Its perfect.. The engine been on wards top 10 engines for like 14 years now and the car MOVES.. The Interior is nicely designed and you get ALOT of technology for under $45,000 sticker..Agreed the outside doen not look stunning but once u get inside its a different story!
12-07-2009, 12:19 PM
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I was actully looking to lease on of our leftover 09 ex's B4 I leased my TSX. The numbers did not work though.. The car is the perfect size fo getting in and out , you don't have to sit up into it nor down into it, Its perfect.. The engine been on wards top 10 engines for like 14 years now and the car MOVES.. The Interior is nicely designed and you get ALOT of technology for under $45,000 sticker..Agreed the outside doen not look stunning but once u get inside its a different story!
12-07-2009, 01:26 PM
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Does AUdi have 4 camera's around the car?
Does audi Nav play DVDs and can stream movies and music via bluetooth from your phone?
Is the audi Nav touchscreen or infiniti controller or voice?
I highly doubt audi has as much tecnology as the EX , and if it does expect to be fixing alot of stuff!..
My fiancee's dad just bought a new QX& v8 , fully loaded, and I know it does not have the technology the EX has and his truck was like $70K so I doubt the a4 has more then the qx!
Does audi Nav play DVDs and can stream movies and music via bluetooth from your phone?
Is the audi Nav touchscreen or infiniti controller or voice?
I highly doubt audi has as much tecnology as the EX , and if it does expect to be fixing alot of stuff!..
My fiancee's dad just bought a new QX& v8 , fully loaded, and I know it does not have the technology the EX has and his truck was like $70K so I doubt the a4 has more then the qx!
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12-07-2009, 04:19 PM
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I love acura's I actully went to 2 acura DLR's for a job first B4 i ended up working for infiniti.. Can't fault a Great product.. The Infiniti Product Line is GREAT consumer reports rates the G # 1 in its class and the M35 1st and and M35X second , so they DO HAVE great products.. Thats one of the reason I picked them to work for.. I just Leased a TSX base though cuz for the Price It was the best product in my price range... I just state FACTS , not a fanboy.. I make a very good living selling them
12-07-2009, 04:20 PM
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Avant.
No contest.
No contest.
12-07-2009, 05:11 PM
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Does AUdi have 4 camera's around the car?
Does audi Nav play DVDs and can stream movies and music via bluetooth from your phone?
Is the audi Nav touchscreen or infiniti controller or voice?
I highly doubt audi has as much tecnology as the EX , and if it does expect to be fixing alot of stuff!..
My fiancee's dad just bought a new QX& v8 , fully loaded, and I know it does not have the technology the EX has and his truck was like $70K so I doubt the a4 has more then the qx!
Does audi Nav play DVDs and can stream movies and music via bluetooth from your phone?
Is the audi Nav touchscreen or infiniti controller or voice?
I highly doubt audi has as much tecnology as the EX , and if it does expect to be fixing alot of stuff!..
My fiancee's dad just bought a new QX& v8 , fully loaded, and I know it does not have the technology the EX has and his truck was like $70K so I doubt the a4 has more then the qx!
But you sound very much like msl82, and that's an extremely negative thing, if you already don't know it.
eat before you talk son.
12-07-2009, 05:39 PM
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Does AUdi have 4 camera's around the car?
Does audi Nav play DVDs and can stream movies and music via bluetooth from your phone?
Is the audi Nav touchscreen or infiniti controller or voice?
I highly doubt audi has as much tecnology as the EX , and if it does expect to be fixing alot of stuff!..
My fiancee's dad just bought a new QX& v8 , fully loaded, and I know it does not have the technology the EX has and his truck was like $70K so I doubt the a4 has more then the qx!
Does audi Nav play DVDs and can stream movies and music via bluetooth from your phone?
Is the audi Nav touchscreen or infiniti controller or voice?
I highly doubt audi has as much tecnology as the EX , and if it does expect to be fixing alot of stuff!..
My fiancee's dad just bought a new QX& v8 , fully loaded, and I know it does not have the technology the EX has and his truck was like $70K so I doubt the a4 has more then the qx!
12-07-2009, 07:44 PM
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I love the haters, The more people hate The more I love IT!!
Like My manager said to me, The more the other sales people hate on me, The more I make them hate on me.. When someone has soo many haters that means I am doing sumtim right! So far no one proved me wrong, I know the audi does not have 4 camera,s nor a touch screen nav, so where am I wrong?
Please tell..
Like My manager said to me, The more the other sales people hate on me, The more I make them hate on me.. When someone has soo many haters that means I am doing sumtim right! So far no one proved me wrong, I know the audi does not have 4 camera,s nor a touch screen nav, so where am I wrong?
Please tell..