That means nothing to me till i drive both and know which one has more of a soild feel.

I mean having increased sound deadening from the 2006 model isnt saying much. I been in that rattle can before. You have to experience it to really know how well they did.

 

I plan to. As for the sound deadening point, see below:
New for 2007:

The all-new 2007 Nissan Altima receives a makeover highlighted by a new Nissan “T-shaped” grille, powerful front fenders, Altima-style taillights and dual exhaust finishers. The interior has been refined with expanded use of soft materials (such as padded armrests) and chrome accents, increased sound insulation and new power-assisted vehicle-speed-sensitive rack-and-pinion steering system. Other features include a new Fine Vision gauge display, Intelligent Key with Push Button Ignition, convenient covered storage compartments, nine cup or bottle holders, Bose-developed audio system with 9 speakers, Bluetooth Hands-Free Phone System, RearView Monitor and dual-zone automatic temperature control. The four-cylinder engine has been refined but unchanged while the V6 is a redesigned next-generation 270-horsepower 3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve engine. A new 6-speed manual transmission is available along with Nissan’s Xtronic CVTs for both engines. The 3.5 SE receives a sport-tuned suspension with larger diameter stabilizer bars, unique spring rates and strut damping.
It seems almost as if they're trying to move the car into a difference class. I'm going to test drive and I'll post my thoughts. I realize I'm on an Acura board (heck, I still own one) but I'm not seeing as much objectivity as I would've expected.

 

My comments have nothing to do with us being on an Acura forum.

Its from having countless nissans and acuras in our family. I would never own a TL again if that even matters. Your logic in car buying just baffles me. Im giving up.

But yes, go drive the Altima and TL on the same day. Then report back.

 

What didnt you like about the TL?

 

How about i be useful. If you do want to read about the car and how it drives from others point of view. Then read up on some reviews.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._nissan_altima

So good question, why not get the camry over the altima?


I think the TL is a great car, I just personally dont want FWD anytime soon.

 

the TL's interior is straight sex. That's all there is to it. I have not seen any other car's interior that looks as good as the set up of the TL...

 

I'm not even considering specs or price.... my view is that both cars were manufactured to represent (shall we say) a different type of vehicle. The Altima is really advertised and placed in a class with other Mid-Sized Sedans, sometimes thought of more as a family vehicle. Infinity and the TL are Luxury Sedans. One serves to portray a more upscale model. Whether you personally want to compare them doesn't matter, but I don't think the manufacturer designed and produced them to be comparable. So don't be surprised if there are differences in terms of price, specs, features, loyalty, image, quality, etc. Not that one is necessarily better than the other in all regards, but they are not direct competitors. As people have said: You can get a $19,000 car with Navi, or a $90,000 car with Navi. They offer some of the same features, but you can't really compare the two.

 

P.S. The TL pricing and Altima pricing are worlds apart in . It'd be laughable to compare the two. But I understand they might be closer in price elsewhere.

And no need to convince me of the new and/or improved features in the '07 Altima. As I said, I've been in it many times now and have taken it for a test drive. It IS an improvement over last year's model, no doubt.

 

I disagree about the altima interior ugly, but agree that it is not the TL.

I do think its funny how every body is raving over the altima coupe in one thread and slamming the altima in another though

 

I've been caught up in reading specs and reviews since I'm looking for a different car too. But I completely agree with CS. Reading about it is only a very small part of experiencing what a car is like. Words on a page cannot give you all the info. You have to sit in it, feel the materials, touch things, test things out, drive it, put it through its paces, etc. You just have to experience it for yourself.

 

but the TL has VTAAAK!!!

and the interior is beautiful!!! GET THE TL!!!

 

I'm in agreement of what this young Jesal said

TL > Altima
And you want to compare warranties. Nissan 3yr/36k, Acura 4yr/50k

 

Where's F23A4 where you need him?

 

give me the new tl-s please when I get a big raise someday.

 

Thansk for the help folks. I had just about decided on the 06 G35 Sedan (07's too rich for my blood), but the 06 TL keeps calling my name. I've driven both those cars, just not this new interloper. My goal is to go RWD again, so we'll see. Adn to CS, I mentioned in earlier posts that I'd read the Mag reviews and they've all been good.

 

Tsk, tsk, the devil's in the details, my friend. Nissan has for a LONG time had a longer powertrain warranty than Acura

From Nissan's Warranty Coverage::
How long is my Nissan's warranty and what does it cover?

The Nissan New Vehicle Limited Warranty's coverage is 36 months/36,000 miles. Powertrain coverage is 5 years/60,000 miles.

 

UGH... The FUCKING POWERTRAIN WARRANTY!!!!! I'm about sick of it, I hate how car companies try to deceive the idiots of the world with their "100K mile warranty" They DON'T say POWERTRAIN, they NEED to say it... I just want to start5 shooting at the screen when I see these damn commercials

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fast-tl: i think you made a good choice with the g35. if you want to go rwd, then that's pretty much the way to go.

as for the extra $3,000, ultimately, it's all a matter of preference. as we've seen on this thread, we'll go back and forth between the merits or benefits of a TL vs. altima and vice versa.

there's no point in arguing what looks better inside and out because that's all subjective. ultimately, people will want to pay an extra $3,000 for a TL for the acura brand name, more luxury, and a vehicle that's more refined.

i haven't driven the new altima, but i'm sure the two rides are different as well.

to some, all the extras are worth $3 or 4k. to some it's not. it's just a matter of priorities and preference.

for example, if i had $33k on me now, i would definitely be in the market for a new TL. but if i had a family and depending on the financial situations, i'd probably be more inclined to buy a less expensive but formidable car, like the new altima or camry.

the TL has proven to be a great product, and i'm sure the altima will too.

 

Chopsie, I goofed. I was reminded from the RDX thread that Acura's POWERTRAIN coverage is NOW 7/70, so it extends beyond the 4/50 bumper to bumper, and beyond Nissans 5/60 powertrain coverage.

I've had a 2000 TL, which was my dream car at the time, so it's time to try something else this go round. The G may be the winner, if the priuce if right!

 

Honestly, I think it is fair to compare the 4G Altima V6 versus both the outgoing G35 and current TL. Likewise, I am certain the redesigned 08 Accord will be a more attractive choice vs. the 08 TL (which will likely be the same as the current model. (Sidenote: I was quoted a price of $24.7k on a loaded leftover 06 Accord EXV6 6MT w/Navi.....so that is a VERY attractive in itself.....but I need HIDs and some torque. ) Bottomline on the comparison: enough features have trickled down from Infiniti/Acura to Nissan/Honda to make the Altima/Accord comparable to the G35/TL on many levels.

Personally, I am actively cross shopping the 07 Altima 3.5SE, the 07 Maxima 3.5SE, 06 G35X and 07 TL. BTW, a loaded up 07 Maxima 3.5SE MSRPs a little higher than the 07 TL w/Navi. Someone earlier posted that they could get a used 06 G35 for $28k.....I am looking at getting a new 06 G35X for about $29k.

With regard to the new Altima, I had a chance to look one over while my Maxima was being serviced and it IS 'leaps and bounds' better than the outgoing model. But, I would: a) never get a car in its first model year (esp. Nissan) and b) wait for the SE-R model before pulling that trigger.

Post Scriptum: Looks are subjective and the exterior of the new Altima looks as attractive as the current TL, but the TL still has the better interior (ergonomically speaking). Although the Altima owns it when it comes to interior/cargo space.

 

yeh, what does Nissan have? Nothing! They have no engine name that has the reputation of the VTECH

 

You never heard of the VQ????

 

You should add the Avalon and the ES350 to your list for comparisons fast-tl since the TL, Altima, Avalon, and ES350 are all FWD.

 

Those cars are too soft for me. Both the TL and Altima have sport tuned suspension setups and tires.
Also, black tire, check this out:
Ward's TOP TEN ENGINES. Sadly, no Honda motors, but Nissan's V6 is, and has been for what, a decade?:
http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/arc..._top_ten_e.htm

 

The only Altima I would consider is the SE-R. Other than that TL>Altima..... Any day of the week.

 

I like Nissan's VQ engine and of course is more powerful and has more torque than Honda's VTEC, but the gas mileage on all the VQ's isn't something to talk about either. While Honda's VTEC gets good enough pickup and good gas mileage.

 

I agree with those two sentences.

 

Why not get a Hyundai Azera then? $29,995 fully loaded, probably $30,595 after destination fees. 263 hp, but the 255 lb/ft of torque (more than the TL, almost as much as TL-S) more than makes up for it.

The VQ is one of the most remarkable engines ever, though I have not gotten a chance to drive a car with the VQ35, the VQ30 in the Maxima really is smooth. The thing about these engines is that they have a lot of torque, Nissan utilizes it in FF/FR/AWD platforms, and features it in pretty much half of its lineup (and almost every Infiniti), which is saying something.

VTEC is not so much an engine but a feature of Honda engines. The engine in the TL is the Honda J series. And in any case, Nissan also has its own VTEC, VTC, albeit without the variable lift.

Personally, I really like the styling of the new Altima. The previous one's rear end looked too flat to me, but the new one is much better. Not having driven one yet, I'll reserve judgment. But I do like the styling of the TL more.

 

Accord vs Altima vs Camry.

G35 vs TL vs IS250/350.

TL is better built, longer warranty, better service at dealers, better leather, better materials, and a better NAV system. Also the NAV lets you at least use it while your driving. Nissans locks it down until your stopped.

 

...actually the variable valve timing system in the VQ35DE is solely cam phasing (or what can be considered the 'i' in 'iVTEC' K-series motors) and lacks the electronic lift control that is the centerpoint of VTEC.

If the VQ had a real VTEC system to go along with its CVTC (and with eVTC on the VQ35HR), I imagine it would put out measurably more peak HP.

 

Obviously a statement from someone that doesn't know much about cars and engines since they don't even know the difference between VTECH and VTEC.

If Honda has VTECH, what does nissan have...motorola?

 

The 3.5 VQ is no where near as smooth as the 3.0L model. The TL has a much smoother engine than my G35 ever had. It rev's smoother and not as rough.

We had a 07 Camry and 03 Altima. Both were louder than my TL now for road noise.

 

It's all relative. There are people where the features are more important than anything else and considering how close the TL and new Altima is, they are definitely comparable.

There's a guy somewhere on these forums that thinks his TL better than an M45. To each his own i guess.

 

nuff said

 

I cant compare it with my CL-S tho

 

No one is asking you too

 

i really like the TL's interior except the cover for the cup holders.

 

The Azera's tyling isn't offensive (I like the "classic" styling of my 2000 TL) but Navi is a must-have feature since I bought my TL. Next car must have it, and the Azera is not a sporty car in the least. I need luxury, sport, value, and as much power as I can get for the money.

 

So you wouldn't say it's fair to cross shop Accord and TL since they're so close in features? If the Altima can be compared to the TL, why couldn't the Altima? What shocks me is those who dismiss a comparison out of hand, as if it CAN'T be done. We're talking vehicles of similar size, displacement, power, and features, and price.

Some people will say "gee the Accord is 8/10's a TL, so what's the ROI on the extra cash" and I think the same argument can be made fo rthe Altima. I can think of no areas where the Accord surpasses the TL, while the Accord's competitor, the Altima, does better the TL in not just one but at least a couple areas, including power, and luxury features like the intelligent key, 2d/3d nav, mp3 audio, folding side mirrors, auto on/off headlights.

One hangup, the nav in motion, is defeatable if you spend 5 minutes on a Nissan or Infiniti forum; they have that problem licked.

I think it'll be my hankering for RWD that "steers" me away form the new ALtima. It won't be a lack of creature comforts, noisiness, or lack of power.

 

Ooops, I guess you never saw the later photos. Keep reading!