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I tend to agree with the SRT-8 or nothing guys. The Challenger is just not appealing to me at R/T level, at least not in comparison to the cheaper and much more capable Mustang 5.0...
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I'll agree with the SRT8 being the way to go, but an R/T is not a dog. I guess it comes down to preference / looks. I know the Mustang is a much better power/weight ration and the price is great. But I could never buy one.
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Well, it seats 4. I have to have room for 5. Second, I just never liked a Mustang. The old ones from the 60's looked OK. But I never warmed to them. They may be great now (sans the transmission issues), but it's a car I would just not buy. That's all.
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All that aside, they are great looking, and are apparently very comfortable.
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The RT has MORE than enough torque and power. It is by no means a slouch of a car.
And I'll say it again...when you talk about the 08-10 SRT vs the 09-10 RT...The overall difference in cost is negligible to slight increase in engine performance. If you were buying new...it wasn't always worth the extra 5-10g for the SRT.
I bought the RT and for around 2g I'm in ballpark to a SRT power wise.
Now...the 11-12 RT vs 11-12 SRT is totally different...you're talking 100 hp/70 tq difference instead of 50 hp/0tq
Either way...just because the RT is the "smaller" V8 does not mean its a slow car. Thats like saying a 335 is too weak, so the only choice is a M3.
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This is just not a true statement.
The RT has MORE than enough torque and power. It is by no means a slouch of a car.
And I'll say it again...when you talk about the 08-10 SRT vs the 09-10 RT...The overall difference in cost is negligible to slight increase in engine performance. If you were buying new...it wasn't always worth the extra 5-10g for the SRT.
I bought the RT and for around 2g I'm in ballpark to a SRT power wise.
Now...the 11-12 RT vs 11-12 SRT is totally different...you're talking 100 hp/70 tq difference instead of 50 hp/0tq
Either way...just because the RT is the "smaller" V8 does not mean its a slow car. Thats like saying a 335 is too weak, so the only choice is a M3.
The RT has MORE than enough torque and power. It is by no means a slouch of a car.
And I'll say it again...when you talk about the 08-10 SRT vs the 09-10 RT...The overall difference in cost is negligible to slight increase in engine performance. If you were buying new...it wasn't always worth the extra 5-10g for the SRT.
I bought the RT and for around 2g I'm in ballpark to a SRT power wise.
Now...the 11-12 RT vs 11-12 SRT is totally different...you're talking 100 hp/70 tq difference instead of 50 hp/0tq
Either way...just because the RT is the "smaller" V8 does not mean its a slow car. Thats like saying a 335 is too weak, so the only choice is a M3.
I'm saying that in the current muscle car arena (11-12) the RT consistently comes up short (by design - being Dodge's small V8) against the Camaro SS and the Mustang GT.
You have to jump to the 11 - 12 STR8 to compete against the Chevy and the Ford.
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I'm not saying that the RT doesn't have enough torque and power. it does as far as a most cars go.
I'm saying that in the current muscle car arena (11-12) the RT consistently comes up short (by design - being Dodge's small V8) against the Camaro SS and the Mustang GT.
You have to jump to the 11 - 12 STR8 to compete against the Chevy and the Ford.
I'm saying that in the current muscle car arena (11-12) the RT consistently comes up short (by design - being Dodge's small V8) against the Camaro SS and the Mustang GT.
You have to jump to the 11 - 12 STR8 to compete against the Chevy and the Ford.
The current SRT8 gets more in to shelby territory...or at least it did until their most current announcement haha.
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2011 SRT-8 with 700 miles 
2011 R/T with 1800 miles:
2010 R/T 6 speed with 1350 miles:
2010 SRT-8 6 speed with 3k miles:
2010 R/T with 4200 miles:
2010 R/T 6 speed with 9600 miles:
2010 R/T 6 speed with 14k miles:
Should I keep going?
2011 R/T with 1800 miles:
2010 R/T 6 speed with 1350 miles:
2010 SRT-8 6 speed with 3k miles:
2010 R/T with 4200 miles:
2010 R/T 6 speed with 9600 miles:
2010 R/T 6 speed with 14k miles:
Should I keep going?
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I can if needed, but I don't usually because it's more cumbersome, and cumbersome requires more time, and time is limited. I have before though. Most of the time I sold it to another dealer who exported it though.
But to answer your question, yes, I can, and I would, providing it's financially worth my while.
But to answer your question, yes, I can, and I would, providing it's financially worth my while.
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The car was sitting on the showroom floor of a franchise dealer. That's exactly what I thought when I first saw that car..
