274HP AWD Mazdaspeed 6 (56K use caution).;)
12-22-2004, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
They also own Aston Martin, Jaguar, Volvo, Land Rover etc. so what's your point?
Unreliable and no resale value vs. other Japanese imports. Do you agree?
12-22-2004, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverUA5
Unreliable and no resale value vs. other Japanese imports. Do you agree?
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/t...128339010848601
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3131800.stm
http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/maz...&echo=882762942
Resale value is not great in the past, but now with the RX-8, Mazda6, Mazda3 resale is climbing high.
12-22-2004, 12:02 PM
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Just wondering why they put the intercooler on top when there's no hoodscoop. Doesn't that sort of defeats the purpose of putting it on top? I think it would make more sense if they mounted in the front like the Mazdaspeed Miata..........
12-22-2004, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverUA5
Just wondering why they put the intercooler on top when there's no hoodscoop. Doesn't that sort of defeats the purpose of putting it on top? I think it would make more sense if they mounted in the front like the Mazdaspeed Miata..........
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Yea, it's a top mount intercooler like the WRX and Legacy GT. The hood is raised in the center so it looks like a cowl induction that forces air under the hood through an air duct that directs the air over the intercooler. Personally I prefer an FMIC, I’m sure someone will make an aftermarket FMIC for it like they do for the WRX’s.
12-22-2004, 06:42 PM
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It's impressive how they can squeeze 274hp out of a 2.3 liter 4..........well, Subaru got 300hp out of a 2.5. I think 300hp is just a modchip away for the 6, not bad. Too bad they don't make an auto for it since I'm too lazy to drive a stick after all these years.
12-22-2004, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
That car looks like a monster! 
It'll probably put a world of hurt on a TL and G35. Great job Mazda...but what happens to the RX8?
It'll probably put a world of hurt on a TL and G35. Great job Mazda...but what happens to the RX8?
12-22-2004, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverUA5
It's impressive how they can squeeze 274hp out of a 2.3 liter 4..........well, Subaru got 300hp out of a 2.5. I think 300hp is just a modchip away for the 6, not bad. Too bad they don't make an auto for it since I'm too lazy to drive a stick after all these years.
12-24-2004, 09:57 AM
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Autoweek has an article I am too lazy to link...
$29k base price and estimated 6.6sec 0-60mph from the manufacturer. The problem is the car weighs over 3600lbs. That being said, I'm sure $2k worth of mods would bring this car down into the very high 13's...
If it is here by March or so, I might just test drive it. Though the wheels suck and the tailigjts scream "race me now", the rest of the package is pretty darn good looking...
And with a 3/50 warranty, not a bad deal.
$29k base price and estimated 6.6sec 0-60mph from the manufacturer. The problem is the car weighs over 3600lbs. That being said, I'm sure $2k worth of mods would bring this car down into the very high 13's...
If it is here by March or so, I might just test drive it. Though the wheels suck and the tailigjts scream "race me now", the rest of the package is pretty darn good looking...
And with a 3/50 warranty, not a bad deal.
12-24-2004, 11:17 AM
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I'd much rather my Acura badge than this Mazda. Whats the point of this car?
What's the point of life? Silly question.
12-24-2004, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LessisBestmakingendsmeet
I'd much rather my Acura badge than this Mazda. Whats the point of this car?
12-24-2004, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Cause some people like buying and driving cars for what they can do instead of what brand it is.
Performance means a lot to people. Thats why the last gen RL was complete joke.
12-24-2004, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Hopefully they can sell enough MSP6's to make them think about bringing back the RX-7 with more power, cause the RX-8 is weaksauce.
01-05-2005, 01:11 AM
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The point is aggressive styling, awd, high output (albeit high weight/not so high as some others)...Whaddya mean what is the point?
What's the point of life? Silly question.
What's the point of life? Silly question.
01-05-2005, 01:56 AM
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A The problem is the car weighs over 3600lbs.
01-05-2005, 02:41 AM
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That car looks pretty pimp..interior wise I was always impressed by the interior of the 6..but this one is way better. The front looks oh so aggressive and the back... "improved." Overall I think the car improved a lot and the specs on that car is pretty intersting. Just like someone else has said already, I rather be driving an Acura than a Mazda. But, opinions are opinions..that is my personaly one. BTW.. Subaru GT>Mazda 6. (looks wise) Now..i'm just waiting for AWD TL ahhahaha.
Now..i'm just waiting for AWD TL ahhahaha.
01-05-2005, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Cause some people like buying and driving cars for what they can do instead of what brand it is.
01-05-2005, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by r10apple
The point is aggressive styling, awd, high output (albeit high weight/not so high as some others)...Whaddya mean what is the point?
What's the point of life? Silly question.
What's the point of life? Silly question.
Well stated.
01-05-2005, 08:49 AM
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Good little write up in this months C&D. Seems to be a great legacy GT fighter. This will definetly be on my list of cars to look at next year when I replace the old CLS. Especially if they hit that price point of 28k 
01-06-2005, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Unreliable NO.
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/t...128339010848601
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3131800.stm
http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/maz...&echo=882762942
Resale value is not great in the past, but now with the RX-8, Mazda6, Mazda3 resale is climbing high.
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/t...128339010848601
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3131800.stm
http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/maz...&echo=882762942
Resale value is not great in the past, but now with the RX-8, Mazda6, Mazda3 resale is climbing high.
01-06-2005, 06:42 AM
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the car is slower than expected and not even making below 6sec
the Legacy GT will beat the Mazda 6 in any category
but the Legacy is sooo pricy, i would rather to buy a new TL for less money
the Legacy GT will beat the Mazda 6 in any category
but the Legacy is sooo pricy, i would rather to buy a new TL for less money
01-06-2005, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by samkws
the car is slower than expected and not even making below 6sec
the Legacy GT will beat the Mazda 6 in any category
but the Legacy is sooo pricy, i would rather to buy a new TL for less money
the Legacy GT will beat the Mazda 6 in any category
but the Legacy is sooo pricy, i would rather to buy a new TL for less money
Has it even been tested yet? In the C&D they think that the mazda estimate is conservative.
Of course I am happy with any car as long as its 0-60 is below 7 (especially the 5-60 number as I find that a more realistic telling of how fast the car is)
The legacy is still like 3k less than the TL. Not bad considering it has AWD and decent power
01-06-2005, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by samkws
reliability is still behind honda and toyota, but they won't surpass them anyways
Originally Posted by samkws
the car is slower than expected and not even making below 6sec
the Legacy GT will beat the Mazda 6 in any category
but the Legacy is sooo pricy, i would rather to buy a new TL for less money
the Legacy GT will beat the Mazda 6 in any category
but the Legacy is sooo pricy, i would rather to buy a new TL for less money
The cars hasn't been tested yet, the performance numbers are ESTIMATES wait till they test it or see some on the track before you make assumptions.
01-06-2005, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Are you in denial or what? Mazda has fewer warranty claims then any other car overseas, and this by going by data collected by an independent warranty company straight from the dealers. Not like JD Powers and Consumer Reports crap that gather info from owners by mail.
where did you get this from? link?
Of course wouldn't they have less claims considering they sell significantly less cars than the other major japanese manufacturers?
01-06-2005, 12:53 PM
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6500rpm redline from a 4 cylinder turbo? Weak sauce
hey some of us don't like those 9k rpm's. Give me a 4k rpm and 300 horses and I will be happy. I WANT MY POWER RIGHT NOW DAMNIT.
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With that low of a redline it probably has tall gears, otherwise you'd be shifting all the time during acceleration.
Cars with high redlines, i.e., RSX-S or S2000 have a close-ratio transmission so you climb to that high redline pretty quickly.
Cars with high redlines, i.e., RSX-S or S2000 have a close-ratio transmission so you climb to that high redline pretty quickly.
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I'd rather have a low revving torque monster for daily driving that has 90% of torque from 2000 to 5500 RPMS, then a high revving whiny engine that you have to rev to at least 6000RPMS to get any power from it.
01-06-2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
I'd rather have a low revving torque monster for daily driving that has 90% of torque from 2000 to 5500 RPMS, then a high revving whiny engine that you have to rev to at least 6000RPMS to get any power from it.
Fair enough, its just an oddly low redline that's all
01-06-2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 95gt
where did you get this from? link?
Of course wouldn't they have less claims considering they sell significantly less cars than the other major japanese manufacturers?
Of course wouldn't they have less claims considering they sell significantly less cars than the other major japanese manufacturers?
http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/t...128339010848601
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3131800.stm
http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/mazd...echo=882762942
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Fair enough, its just an oddly low redline that's all
01-06-2005, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
The SRT-4 also has a relatively low redline of around 6200RPM but they make lots of power throughout the power band. They usually dyno at around 220-230HP and 250-260lb-ft of torque at the wheels.
I didn't realize they also had such a low redline
