2005 Subaru Legacy GT or 2005 Acura TSX??
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2005 Subaru Legacy GT or 2005 Acura TSX??
I love my CL, but I have a baby coming in January and need a 4 door car. I only want to spend about $26,000 to $28,000. I have been looking at the Acura TSX and Subaru Legacy GT. I love the power of the Subaru (TURBO>>AWD>>250hp/250tq>>5.7 to 60mph and 14.2 in the quarter). The interior is not bad in the Legacy, but I love the fit and finish of the TSX's interior. As far as exterior styling, I think the TSX is a little more appealing, but would not be a deciding factor. As far as the exterior goes, I like them both. The problem I have with the TSX is that it is a slug (200hp/166tq>>7.1 to 60mph and 15.7 in the quarter)!!!
What would you do??
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
http://www.subaru.com/servlet/showro...mmand=overview
http://acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=tsx
What would you do??
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
http://www.subaru.com/servlet/showro...mmand=overview
http://acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=tsx
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saw a dope as legacy gt limited at a carshow in bmore sunday. i would go subie alll the way allwheel drive and trubos aviable no question
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i haven't seen the legacy in person yet, but i'm seriously considering it for my next car. i'm actually planning on taking a look at them tonight.
i've driven the tsx as a loaner and it's a nice car but it does nothing for me. not even on my list. i have not driven a 6mt tsx though.
the fact that i live in oregon means to enjoy my car year around i need AWD. and i want a turbo car.
i've driven the tsx as a loaner and it's a nice car but it does nothing for me. not even on my list. i have not driven a 6mt tsx though.
the fact that i live in oregon means to enjoy my car year around i need AWD. and i want a turbo car.
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i think the legacy is bigger then the tsx. so if space for younguns is concerned that is a factor.
both are nice.
both are nice.
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Thanks, so far you guys are thinking the same way I am feeling. I drove the Subaru and it drives sweet. I haven't driven the TSX, but Car and Driver pulls on it so hard it makes me wonder what is so great about it.
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what did you think about the interior, fit and finish etc?
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Originally Posted by SFLA_Type-S
Thanks, so far you guys are thinking the same way I am feeling. I drove the Subaru and it drives sweet. I haven't driven the TSX, but Car and Driver pulls on it so hard it makes me wonder what is so great about it.
subie, i sat in a new legacy outback this week so i think interior are the same...nice interior, felt like some quality going on. its has awd and turbo....i love wrxs, and Stis....my autoX team is all wrx and sti...im one of two non subies...
So, its really whatever feels best to you.
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Originally Posted by mattg
what did you think about the interior, fit and finish etc?
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i obviously agree.
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I love my CL, but I have a baby coming in January and need a 4 door car. I only want to spend about $26,000 to $28,000. I have been looking at the Acura TSX and Subaru Legacy GT. I love the power of the Subaru (TURBO>>AWD>>250hp/250tq>>5.7 to 60mph and 14.2 in the quarter). The interior is not bad in the Legacy, but I love the fit and finish of the TSX's interior. As far as exterior styling, I think the TSX is a little more appealing, but would not be a deciding factor. As far as the exterior goes, I like them both. The problem I have with the TSX is that it is a slug (200hp/166tq>>7.1 to 60mph and 15.7 in the quarter)!!!
What would you do??
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
http://www.subaru.com/servlet/showro...mmand=overview
http://acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=tsx
What would you do??
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
http://www.subaru.com/servlet/showro...mmand=overview
http://acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=tsx
Get the October road and track, they did a head-to-head comparison of the two.
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its pretty much, if fit finish and interior is more important to you, tsx, if engine is more important, legacy is the way to go, both are good cars
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Yes, I saw that issue. Road and Track had the Legacy as the winner. I think I will more than likely go with the Subaru. There is so much more potential in it than the TSX. I think with a little tuning I can get 300+ to the wheels.
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all wheel drive.... full time now doubt.... subaru... no question....
safer overall in my opinion.. i know your in FLA... but that all wheel drive is awesome if you ever come up where it snows...
safer overall in my opinion.. i know your in FLA... but that all wheel drive is awesome if you ever come up where it snows...
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I sat in the new Subaru last week and was impressed. Fit, finish and feel of materials and switches weren't quite up to par with the TSX, but they weren't bad either - maybe just different? I've always liked Hondas and Acuras but the power, AWD and overall packaging of the Subie were very compelling. Given that you want power and room, I'd go for the Legacy.
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This really reminds me of the E55 vs M5 comparison. Only on a lower part of the food chain. One is a can of straight line whoop-arse and the other has superior balance w/decent performance.
As I'd rather have the M5 over the E55, I'd take the TSX over the LGT. (I do wonder if Cybernation will develop a turbo kit for the K24A.)
As I'd rather have the M5 over the E55, I'd take the TSX over the LGT. (I do wonder if Cybernation will develop a turbo kit for the K24A.)
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TSX interior is off the chain, but I'd rather get the legacy. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Do a full TSX interior conversion to get the best of both worlds. :P
Do a full TSX interior conversion to get the best of both worlds. :P
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If you don't need a nice interior, but want power, get the Mazdaspeed6, and it doesn't look half bad and it's AWD. I guess the only issue it is a Mazda, but it appears that a lot of the Volvo S60 came over to it.
Subaru would be my choice of the two.
Subaru would be my choice of the two.
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Thanks for the input guys..you all confirmed my thoughts. I was leaning towards the Subaru from the beginning, but the TSX is a nice car and I just didn't want to overlook it.
anothercls: Is the Mazdaspeed 6 out already? What are the specs?
anothercls: Is the Mazdaspeed 6 out already? What are the specs?
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Originally Posted by SFLA_Type-S
Thanks for the input guys..you all confirmed my thoughts. I was leaning towards the Subaru from the beginning, but the TSX is a nice car and I just didn't want to overlook it.
anothercls: Is the Mazdaspeed 6 out already? What are the specs?
anothercls: Is the Mazdaspeed 6 out already? What are the specs?
Mazdaspeed6
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this is the article in question comparing the two:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1
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Why limit yourself to a TSX or Subaru. Why not look into the used market. You can find some GS400s and GS430 in the upper 20's I think new cars are kind of over rated let someone else take the hit on depreciation.
By the way, the TSX interior looks good at a quick glance, but if you really look at it, I think its kinda cheap. Wasn't too crazy about some of the materials used in the car. And in the auto tranny model you can definitely tell its low on grunt. My $0.02
By the way, the TSX interior looks good at a quick glance, but if you really look at it, I think its kinda cheap. Wasn't too crazy about some of the materials used in the car. And in the auto tranny model you can definitely tell its low on grunt. My $0.02
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true importtuner>>> i took a new maxima to chicago and i balls out on the hwy and it was a nice ass ride....
i almost bought one, but the one i wanted was hella expensive...
nice ride and look.... nissan is comin with some nice shyt...
but i love the subaru all wheel drive... especially in michigan....
i almost bought one, but the one i wanted was hella expensive...
nice ride and look.... nissan is comin with some nice shyt...
but i love the subaru all wheel drive... especially in michigan....
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Tough call,
Luxury, TSX wins hands down. No nav in the Subie which is a big deal to me. Fit and finish much nicer in TSX, seems to be quiter but road tests by mags have them pretty close. Engine is much smoother
Performance, got to go Subie. More grunt all over the place. Handles pretty well too but TSX may actually handle better
One issue on performance i noticed is that while the Subaru felt much stronger than the TSX according to the road and track they are real close in real world situations (aka 5-60 mph) the subaru was in the low 7's in that test. Only about .5 seconds ahead of the TSX. As i don't clutch dump cars every time I leave a light that was a bid deal
Of course if you are going automatic choice is easy = Subaru. Tsx is a dog with the auto. Stick though makes choice much harder. Performance or performance luxury. i am leaning towards the TSX myself
Luxury, TSX wins hands down. No nav in the Subie which is a big deal to me. Fit and finish much nicer in TSX, seems to be quiter but road tests by mags have them pretty close. Engine is much smoother
Performance, got to go Subie. More grunt all over the place. Handles pretty well too but TSX may actually handle better
One issue on performance i noticed is that while the Subaru felt much stronger than the TSX according to the road and track they are real close in real world situations (aka 5-60 mph) the subaru was in the low 7's in that test. Only about .5 seconds ahead of the TSX. As i don't clutch dump cars every time I leave a light that was a bid deal
Of course if you are going automatic choice is easy = Subaru. Tsx is a dog with the auto. Stick though makes choice much harder. Performance or performance luxury. i am leaning towards the TSX myself
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I have an RSX-S and yes the car is fun but the 4 banger just does not cut it in traffic and light to light situations. On the freeway its no bigge... doing 60mph and go from 6th to 3rd and your in VTEC and your gone. I went from a 3.0CL and I regret it everytime I get in it. Torque is the key thing and the Subie does have that for sure. I drove the Subie at a ride and drive event and came out very, very impressed. True the interior could use a little work compared to the TSX, but its still nice and clean. Given the TSX has the ALMOST the same motor I couldnt see myself buying that just for that reason. In face thinking about picking up an 04 Accord V6 thats certified just to get out of this car.
I have an RSX-S and yes the car is fun but the 4 banger just does not cut it in traffic and light to light situations. On the freeway its no bigge... doing 60mph and go from 6th to 3rd and your in VTEC and your gone. I went from a 3.0CL and I regret it everytime I get in it. Torque is the key thing and the Subie does have that for sure. I drove the Subie at a ride and drive event and came out very, very impressed. True the interior could use a little work compared to the TSX, but its still nice and clean. Given the TSX has the ALMOST the same motor I couldnt see myself buying that just for that reason. In face thinking about picking up an 04 Accord V6 thats certified just to get out of this car.
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Bad news...I drove the Subie again at the dealer yesterday & I was not impressed with the interior (cloth). It was very small (more rear legroom in the CL) and cheap feeling. I felt like I was in a WRX with a ($26,500) sticker. The leather model was nicer, but for 28K-29K I can get a Maxima or a fully loaded Altima (BTW: The 2005 Altima is 250hp/249Tq). The Legacy was very fast, but I felt like Subaru cheaped out on everything else.
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Originally Posted by SFLA_Type-S
Bad news...I drove the Subie again at the dealer yesterday & I was not impressed with the interior (cloth). It was very small (more rear legroom in the CL) and cheap feeling. I felt like I was in a WRX with a ($26,500) sticker. The leather model was nicer, but for 28K-29K I can get a Maxima or a fully loaded Altima (BTW: The 2005 Altima is 250hp/249Tq). The Legacy was very fast, but I felt like Subaru cheaped out on everything else.
I would personally go with the TSX. The performance is definitely nice in the GT, but the quality of the car isn't up to par.
Yea, the leather option is expensive as hell, although the Maxima feels cheap as well.
I say TSX, the car's only recieved praises and the lack of pep in it's get-go isn't too bad, considering you are getting a pretty nice car overall.
good luck in your search.
Junkster, who would maybe pay 26k for a leather GT... wagon of course
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I test drove the new 2005 Altima (5 speed manual) and I think I might go with that instead. The car is very fast and has a nice clean interior. For $24,500 I can get a 3.5 SE model with Bose AM/FM/CD6 System . Power Glass Sunroof . Heated Seats . Leather-Appointed Seat Trim . Automatic Temperature Control . HomeLink Wireless Control System . Auto-Dimming Inside Rearview Mirror . Heated Outside Mirrors . Rear Spoiler .Xenon Headlights
The 2005 Altima has 250 hp and 249 lb-ft of torque. The 2003 Altima had only 245 hp was able to hit 60 mph in 5.95 seconds & a quarter-mile time of 14.46 seconds at 98.6 mph.
**Motor Trend Test, February 2003. (3.5 SE with manual transmission.)
The 2005 Altima has 250 hp and 249 lb-ft of torque. The 2003 Altima had only 245 hp was able to hit 60 mph in 5.95 seconds & a quarter-mile time of 14.46 seconds at 98.6 mph.
**Motor Trend Test, February 2003. (3.5 SE with manual transmission.)
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SFLA, ironically I considered trading my 02 Maxima for a loaded 05 Alti 3.5SE w/5MT. The interior is much nicer than the 02-04 Alti and now DVD Navi is offered.