2 Buick GN's picking on a Viper GTS video

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Old 02-27-2004 | 03:34 PM
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It is certainly nice to build boost at the line; makes for some serious launches if you have the traction.

yep yep, it's fun watching them squat on the line as you hear the turbo start spooling


then


WHAP!
Old 02-27-2004 | 03:50 PM
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Fast enough for the FBI...

Originally posted by scalbert
The 3.8L Buick Turbo V6, wonderful!!! IMO, the T-Type/GN/GNX were the beginning of the modern muscle car.
Ditto...



CAPTION:

"Men In Black had nothing on this ex-FBI Grand National!
Joe's car happens to be one of the almost mythical ex-FBI Grand Nationals. As we've all heard different urban legends (they were TWIN turbo, they had a special chip that would make them twice as fast as a regular GN, etc.)....it's nice to see one in an enthusiast's hands! His car is quite unique in the fact that it is one of the 200 FBI cars used back in the 80's (and one of the last 100 GNs made), Originally from Alexandria Virginia, It was stationed in Ft. Lauderdale and used by the DEA for drug busts. Miamia Vice, eat your heart out!"


AND...

http://www.jaj.com/space/efrazier/gn.html



Old 02-27-2004 | 04:24 PM
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.. bitchin... got to luv those Grand Nationals!!
Old 02-27-2004 | 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by darrinb
yea it looked like the ciper guy was just chillin w/ his arm out the window
Was about to post that. No doubt there fast but I think the viper driver could of been a bit better.
Old 02-27-2004 | 05:14 PM
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heh, bad ass video.
Old 02-27-2004 | 05:52 PM
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Damn that viper got killed.
Old 02-28-2004 | 05:33 PM
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Holy shit!! Owned by TWO GNX's!!
Old 02-28-2004 | 06:17 PM
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Don't know why they didn't make this car

I linked it b/c the imaging it won't work.

http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pi...egal_gnx-1.jpg
Old 02-28-2004 | 06:21 PM
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CL P Diddy is comes up a red X in that link too.

I thought they did make GNX's?

Are these a different one?
Old 02-28-2004 | 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by Chaptorial
I thought they did make GNX's?

Are these a different one?
Buick made only 547 GNX's.
Old 02-28-2004 | 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
I disagree. It's easier to drive consistent with an auto, and an auto is better for a turbo application, as the boost doesn't drop, but otherwise I think a manual is better.

You get more power to the wheels compared to an auto, you can get quick controlled launches and shift faster (both driver skill though)

Imagine an auto S2000? It would be slow as shit from a stop.

Your missing some major things to the automatic transmission...

Quicker shifts (with a shift kit, yes way faster than a manual)

And the torque converter. You can get a torque converter to lock at whatever RPM you want. I had a 3500 Stall converter in one of my older camaros. I.E. like (but better) dumping the clutch at 3500 rpms.

Why did i do that? My cam power-band started there and went to 6k.

Matt's right.

Stock vs. stock your 100% right.

So no, not for just forced induction setups... thats just not true.

My setup had a perfect launch at 3500 rpms (matched to my cam and my intake) and a shift kit, which was a reverse manual valve body. So I had a auto th400 with a manual shift (hurst slam shifter). Shifted instantaneously.
Old 02-28-2004 | 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chaptorial
CL P Diddy is comes up a red X in that link too.

I thought they did make GNX's?

Are these a different one?
thanks, I had to host them myself



Old 02-28-2004 | 11:52 PM
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That is one fugly concept car.
Old 02-28-2004 | 11:59 PM
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Are you serious? I mean, I wouldn't drive one but I bet you it'd look good blastin' down the street.
Old 02-29-2004 | 12:03 AM
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Yes, I am serious. IMO it looks messed up. I can't believe Buick would even consider taking a classic 2 door GN and turning it into a 4 door concept-Dale Earnheart Edition Regal. I guess diff'rent storkes for diff'rent folks.
Old 02-29-2004 | 08:48 AM
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GNs were/are badass.
Old 02-29-2004 | 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Sweet video... I always loved the GN.. I used to drive an 87 Olds 442, (similar body as the GN) and I always wished it was a GN
I had a friend in college (he was from Trumbull, in fact) who had an '85 442 with a built tranny, ported and polished exhaust, and a few other things I can't remember...it was a lot quicker than a stock 307, fo sho!
Old 02-29-2004 | 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by scalbert
The 3.8L Buick Turbo V6, wonderful!!! IMO, the T-Type/GN/GNX were the beginning of the modern muscle car.
I saw a T-Type yesterday afternoon on the way to work, and I wondered if I'd be biting off more than I could chew if he'd modded it.
Old 02-29-2004 | 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Bulldog01
I had a friend in college (he was from Trumbull, in fact) who had an '85 442 with a built tranny, ported and polished exhaust, and a few other things I can't remember...it was a lot quicker than a stock 307, fo sho!
They still made 442's in '85?
Old 02-29-2004 | 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by SpeedyV6
They still made 442's in '85?
Until '87, I believe. Well, it was a Cutlass with a 307 that produced ~ 180-something hp. GM put some 442 badging on it and called it a 442. I do, however, like the 15th Anniversary Hurst/OLDS 442 from '83...Lightning Rods an' all.
Old 02-29-2004 | 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Bulldog01
Until '87, I believe. Well, it was a Cutlass with a 307 that produced ~ 180-something hp. GM put some 442 badging on it and called it a 442. I do, however, like the 15th Anniversary Hurst/OLDS 442 from '83...Lightning Rods an' all.
You're correct. This particular model was from 1985-1987 (until the RWD G-body model went away). It had the almost the same engine from the Monte SS. It was a real sleeper and not many were produced. It had 170 hp but 250 lb/ft of torque and only weighed 3200 lbs. It wasn't in the same performance class as the GN though

Here's a pic (not of mine) for those interested:

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