2 Buick GN's picking on a Viper GTS video
02-27-2004, 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by scalbert
It is certainly nice to build boost at the line; makes for some serious launches if you have the traction.
It is certainly nice to build boost at the line; makes for some serious launches if you have the traction.
yep yep, it's fun watching them squat on the line as you hear the turbo start spooling
then
WHAP!
02-27-2004, 02:50 PM
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Fast enough for the FBI...
Originally posted by scalbert
The 3.8L Buick Turbo V6, wonderful!!! IMO, the T-Type/GN/GNX were the beginning of the modern muscle car.
The 3.8L Buick Turbo V6, wonderful!!! IMO, the T-Type/GN/GNX were the beginning of the modern muscle car.
CAPTION:
"Men In Black had nothing on this ex-FBI Grand National!
Joe's car happens to be one of the almost mythical ex-FBI Grand Nationals. As we've all heard different urban legends (they were TWIN turbo, they had a special chip that would make them twice as fast as a regular GN, etc.)....it's nice to see one in an enthusiast's hands! His car is quite unique in the fact that it is one of the 200 FBI cars used back in the 80's (and one of the last 100 GNs made), Originally from Alexandria Virginia, It was stationed in Ft. Lauderdale and used by the DEA for drug busts. Miamia Vice, eat your heart out!"
AND...
http://www.jaj.com/space/efrazier/gn.html
.. bitchin... got to luv those Grand Nationals!!
02-28-2004, 05:17 PM
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Don't know why they didn't make this car
I linked it b/c the imaging it won't work.
http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pi...egal_gnx-1.jpg
I linked it b/c the imaging it won't work.
http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pi...egal_gnx-1.jpg
02-28-2004, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
I disagree. It's easier to drive consistent with an auto, and an auto is better for a turbo application, as the boost doesn't drop, but otherwise I think a manual is better.
You get more power to the wheels compared to an auto, you can get quick controlled launches and shift faster (both driver skill though)
Imagine an auto S2000? It would be slow as shit from a stop.
I disagree. It's easier to drive consistent with an auto, and an auto is better for a turbo application, as the boost doesn't drop, but otherwise I think a manual is better.
You get more power to the wheels compared to an auto, you can get quick controlled launches and shift faster (both driver skill though)
Imagine an auto S2000? It would be slow as shit from a stop.
Your missing some major things to the automatic transmission...
Quicker shifts (with a shift kit, yes way faster than a manual)
And the torque converter. You can get a torque converter to lock at whatever RPM you want. I had a 3500 Stall converter in one of my older camaros. I.E. like (but better) dumping the clutch at 3500 rpms.
Why did i do that? My cam power-band started there and went to 6k.
Matt's right.
Stock vs. stock your 100% right.
So no, not for just forced induction setups... thats just not true.
My setup had a perfect launch at 3500 rpms (matched to my cam and my intake) and a shift kit, which was a reverse manual valve body. So I had a auto th400 with a manual shift (hurst slam shifter). Shifted instantaneously.
02-28-2004, 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chaptorial
CL P Diddy is comes up a red X in that link too.
I thought they did make GNX's?
Are these a different one?
CL P Diddy is comes up a red X in that link too.
I thought they did make GNX's?
Are these a different one?
02-28-2004, 11:03 PM
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Yes, I am serious. IMO it looks messed up. I can't believe Buick would even consider taking a classic 2 door GN and turning it into a 4 door concept-Dale Earnheart Edition Regal. I guess diff'rent storkes for diff'rent folks.
02-29-2004, 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Sweet video... I always loved the GN.. I used to drive an 87 Olds 442, (similar body as the GN) and I always wished it was a GN
Sweet video... I always loved the GN.. I used to drive an 87 Olds 442, (similar body as the GN) and I always wished it was a GN
02-29-2004, 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by scalbert
The 3.8L Buick Turbo V6, wonderful!!! IMO, the T-Type/GN/GNX were the beginning of the modern muscle car.
The 3.8L Buick Turbo V6, wonderful!!! IMO, the T-Type/GN/GNX were the beginning of the modern muscle car.
02-29-2004, 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by Bulldog01
I had a friend in college (he was from Trumbull, in fact) who had an '85 442 with a built tranny, ported and polished exhaust, and a few other things I can't remember...it was a lot quicker than a stock 307, fo sho!
I had a friend in college (he was from Trumbull, in fact) who had an '85 442 with a built tranny, ported and polished exhaust, and a few other things I can't remember...it was a lot quicker than a stock 307, fo sho!
02-29-2004, 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by SpeedyV6
They still made 442's in '85?
They still made 442's in '85?
02-29-2004, 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bulldog01
Until '87, I believe. Well, it was a Cutlass with a 307 that produced ~ 180-something hp. GM put some 442 badging on it and called it a 442. I do, however, like the 15th Anniversary Hurst/OLDS 442 from '83...Lightning Rods an' all.
Until '87, I believe. Well, it was a Cutlass with a 307 that produced ~ 180-something hp. GM put some 442 badging on it and called it a 442. I do, however, like the 15th Anniversary Hurst/OLDS 442 from '83...Lightning Rods an' all.
Here's a pic (not of mine) for those interested:
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