1993 Vigor GS 5MT Build
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Burning Brakes
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Got my car back around 4pm, they fixed the wipers! Problem ended up being the under hood fuse box. The prong that the 30am wiper circuit fuse makes contact with was broken. They were able to fix it, now they work beautifully!
My service adviser was a champ. And the tech who worked on my car as well. He's one of the older guys who has seen some stuff. They wold me a few weeks ago they completely re-wired a 92 Legend for a customer to give to his son. They pulled up pictures of the customers car to show me the wiring mess. Amazing dealership honestly, most places I feel like wouldn't touch it.
The same tech turned his attention back to my car and questioned how I managed the 5 lug hub swap, RL brake calipers and what it was lowered on. I think he liked it a lot. They said this is the first Vigor they have seen come through in several years. I'm sure they'll remember this one!
I go back Monday to start the diagnoses of the bogging. I showed the tech a few clips of the issue and told him all the parts that have been replaced. Mentioned I have a back up ECU to swap out, he said the current one installed could have a leaking capacitor and since the issue is only present after driving for some time it is likely due to heat expansion inside the ECU from operation/ run time and then that's when the issue arises. He's not sure about it being fuel pressure, he mentioned it could be pulling timing since the pattern is so distinct. I had never considered that before but it makes total sense. Low fuel pressure could but really isn't likely to be that persistent with the bogging.
Before I left the dealer I picked up 3qts of MTF for half price. Parts department told me they never sell the stuff anymore and only keep 7 qts in stock now.
Tomorrow I'll swap ECU's, swap in MTF and probably hollow out the catalytic converter then get some exhaust work done.
Checked fluids when I got home. Oil is clean and at the same level as before, no milky residue under valve cover cap, PS fluid the same, everything. Though the coolant reservoir is lower again but I can't see where or if there is a leak this time. Still no smoke or anything coming from the exhaust and it smells about like the TSXs. Maybe the coolant just leveled itself out. I'll keep an eye on it.
So happy that this is moving along and so positively!
My service adviser was a champ. And the tech who worked on my car as well. He's one of the older guys who has seen some stuff. They wold me a few weeks ago they completely re-wired a 92 Legend for a customer to give to his son. They pulled up pictures of the customers car to show me the wiring mess. Amazing dealership honestly, most places I feel like wouldn't touch it.
The same tech turned his attention back to my car and questioned how I managed the 5 lug hub swap, RL brake calipers and what it was lowered on. I think he liked it a lot. They said this is the first Vigor they have seen come through in several years. I'm sure they'll remember this one!
I go back Monday to start the diagnoses of the bogging. I showed the tech a few clips of the issue and told him all the parts that have been replaced. Mentioned I have a back up ECU to swap out, he said the current one installed could have a leaking capacitor and since the issue is only present after driving for some time it is likely due to heat expansion inside the ECU from operation/ run time and then that's when the issue arises. He's not sure about it being fuel pressure, he mentioned it could be pulling timing since the pattern is so distinct. I had never considered that before but it makes total sense. Low fuel pressure could but really isn't likely to be that persistent with the bogging.
Before I left the dealer I picked up 3qts of MTF for half price. Parts department told me they never sell the stuff anymore and only keep 7 qts in stock now.
Tomorrow I'll swap ECU's, swap in MTF and probably hollow out the catalytic converter then get some exhaust work done.
Checked fluids when I got home. Oil is clean and at the same level as before, no milky residue under valve cover cap, PS fluid the same, everything. Though the coolant reservoir is lower again but I can't see where or if there is a leak this time. Still no smoke or anything coming from the exhaust and it smells about like the TSXs. Maybe the coolant just leveled itself out. I'll keep an eye on it.
So happy that this is moving along and so positively!
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#122
Burning Brakes
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New fuel filters and cleaned out the tank. The car is now 100% problem free.
OK not really. I have a small coolant leak coming off the radiator lower hose and pipe B because the clamps are old.
Installed a 21mm rear sway bar and the car feels totally different now.
Don't worry about the location, it's a safe area and no blind spots over the hill.
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OK not really. I have a small coolant leak coming off the radiator lower hose and pipe B because the clamps are old.
Installed a 21mm rear sway bar and the car feels totally different now.
Don't worry about the location, it's a safe area and no blind spots over the hill.
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mrmako (03-02-2019)
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Someday, an RS6 Avant+
Looks and sounds great.
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#124
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Wow. Okay so today I removed the exhaust system and replaced it with 2.5" SS tubing from the header back leaving the cat and resonator behind and only installing a dual outlet...knock off flow master thing.
I have a few videos. It's really loud. Has a terrible 2,000-3,700rpm rasp and overall just sounds a bit like a tin can. I know 2.5" is a tad big for my application and should have went with a 2.25" because I can feel a little less power below 3,000rpm but thankfully it pulls much harder everywhere above that! I might grab a 60mm TB and port match before it's over to help out upper end. Highway drone is there. Radio is no use now lol.
I think I'm going to go back and install a Vibrant resonator and a smaller mid muffler and then swap this muffler out for a deeper toned Magnaflow. To me it sounds a bit much like a clapped out Chevy Tahoe unless I'm over 5,000rpm.
That all being said I paid less than $280 to have it all done and it does overall sound better than before.
Heck, I might just calculate and make a helmholtz resonator for it.
Please, honest opinions on it! I definitely miss the dominating induction noise. Maybe routing a small tube into the HVAC is in order lol. Kidding!
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<b>Awesome new rear brake line leak. 21mm sway bar also. </b>
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<b>Reused my old TSX tips. Their condition matches the rest of my car!
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I have a few videos. It's really loud. Has a terrible 2,000-3,700rpm rasp and overall just sounds a bit like a tin can. I know 2.5" is a tad big for my application and should have went with a 2.25" because I can feel a little less power below 3,000rpm but thankfully it pulls much harder everywhere above that! I might grab a 60mm TB and port match before it's over to help out upper end. Highway drone is there. Radio is no use now lol.
I think I'm going to go back and install a Vibrant resonator and a smaller mid muffler and then swap this muffler out for a deeper toned Magnaflow. To me it sounds a bit much like a clapped out Chevy Tahoe unless I'm over 5,000rpm.
That all being said I paid less than $280 to have it all done and it does overall sound better than before.
Heck, I might just calculate and make a helmholtz resonator for it.
Please, honest opinions on it! I definitely miss the dominating induction noise. Maybe routing a small tube into the HVAC is in order lol. Kidding!
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<b>Awesome new rear brake line leak. 21mm sway bar also. </b>
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<b>Reused my old TSX tips. Their condition matches the rest of my car!
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#128
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Alright so with us all in quarantine I figure I'll come and dust this place off.
I wrecked the car and should have been killed.
Some time ago over on TOV we discussed briefly the crash worthiness of my Acura Vigor regarding it's older engineering and pillar-less doors. I feared the day would come that I got to test it out however on Friday the 1st of November I did just that.
Me videoing and walking around after I climbed back up the cliff barely just two weeks post op from having my gallbladder removed.
To make a short story sort of short, I was attending TougeFest at US129 Tail of the Dragon and had been driving the car all day with a large group of friends. Having a great and SAFE, near miss free time. We stopped to take a break from driving and the cars sat a little over an hour while the summer tire compound lost some of their traction worthiness as the day fell to near 30 degrees. Driving down Hellbender the car begins to struggle with the uneven pavement surfaces and less adhesion from the tires. My rear sway bar and dumb driving does not help this. I noticed the difference too late and thought to make the decision to take it down a notch but I was too late.
The rear end stepped out while coming through a tight right hand corner while going over patches of rougher pavement. In a panic, instead of steering into the direction I needed to go and staying on the gas to pull the car out of oversteer I slammed on the brakes which with the lack of ABS functioning and the compromised summer tire compound only sped up the process of my car sliding off the cliff, at this point drivers door first and into a tree. From there I think the car swung passenger side into a second tree where I would proceed to drop steeply about 200 feet and 'pin ball' through other trees into the river where the car landed passenger side half in the water.
First thing the came through my mind when I began to slid and not regaining control was "It's happening now" and I remember pulling myself down and toward the radio while holding onto the wheel tightly. I never felt the first hit but I heard all of the glass shatter and metal crinkle. After the second hit I opened my eyes trying to see where my car was headed. I knew I slid into the tree line that fenced the road in but I wasn't aware of how far the drop off was in that area. I expected my car to be stopped, wedged against a tree and the side of the cliff but instead I saw that I was almost nose diving through brush and smaller trees. The interior lights were on at that time from the door jams distorting allowing the door switches to open the circuit. As my car violently slid down hill I took quick note of the dash buckled in but that the roof wasn't crushed yet so I tried pulling myself in closer in preparation for the worst, rolling over and the roof crushing down on me or hitting a tree brand head first through the windshield. What felt like forever in falling the car with loud bangs coming from all around and below me, I finally came to a stop after two more hard hits.
I remember sitting back up right in my seat slowly afraid to throw off the balance of the car. In my head I imagined it teetering on the edge of another drop. First thing I see is the headlights shooting beams across the river bank and along the tree line and my gauge cluster glowing despite being smashed almost a whole foot over from where it should be. The LED interior lighting revealed my hands were still firmly grasping the 7 and 4 position on the wheel. I looked over my shoulder and saw water flooding into the back floor and into the front passenger floor next to me. I took the keys from the ignition to avoid any potential delayed air bag deployment and made sure that my phone and wallet were still in my pockets. I unbuckled my belt and crawled out of the drivers door window then sat on a large rock where I could vaguely see the drivers side of the car smashed from A pillar to C pillar revealing an imprint of a large tree.
I sat there alone maybe a second or two before I heard my friends who were driving ahead and behind me (and witnessed it) call down to me asking if I was hurt. I was not. I checked my ears, face, scalp, shoulder, leg and body for any cuts, bleeding or any immediate swelling and found nothing. I was able to crawl back into the car to retrieve a shoe which was lodged behind the pedal assembly. As I sat there I noticed the car wasn't smoking or hissing aside from a popped tire bead. The entire front end miraculously made it through without a single major impact. The front bumper was pulled off and the headlights and grill slightly damaged but the front crumple zone was 100% intact and the engine was sitting happy in it's place, not leaking a drop of coolant. Even the subframe and core support is unbothered.
About five minutes go by and a car stops. They have about 500 feet of rope and with it tied to their wheel and a friend hiking it down to me, I was able to pull and climb up most of the way on my own where I was met by a large crowd who cheered for me and all surrounded and hugged me.
From there, about three hours later when the correct men show up I get two minor citations and start to plan the extraction of my car and ways to get it five hours back home. The citations were failure to maintain lane control, weather related, and improper speed for weather conditions. Both completely dropped thankfully.
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It's amazing that I came out alive, even more so without a scratch or bruise. I was somehow able to sleep in my cabin that night with relative ease. I suppose still in shock. The following day I was not even sore from the wreck and emotionally held up ok given that car was my everything. The car held up extremely well for the speeds I was traveling and the age. I will get another one. And that I did!![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
About a week later I got the car home thank to my wonderful mom and a family friend traveling and retrieving the car from a tow yard that I had paid to hold the car until I came I for it.
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I still question how I am here. The floor is buckled such that the driver seat is tilted toward the drivers door, which also is pushed so far in. Of course the A pillar, B pillar and door is pushed in a good deal also. Climbing back in and sitting in the car my shoulder is firmly against the door panel, I have no idea how I was not bruised at the least. I must not have lost my braced position.
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Securely lifted the car onto jack stands. Passenger side jack stand is fully extended, drivers is at it's lowest point to make the car sit even. The driver side is deformed downward about 5 inches or more form the cowl/ fire wall all the way through to the floor.
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Pretty tough control arm. It didn't really bend much, just ripped in the weaker parts.
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It tore right through the subframe mounting location though.
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Crash structure/ crumple zone spot welds stretched and popped as intended
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Straight crash structure (passenger side)
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Slightly deformed crash structure that's pulled downward and pushed half way back from the frontal impact area/ after the shock tower (driver side)
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Driver side wheel and knuckle assembly still intact. The ball joints for the lower, upper and tie rod pulled right out of their respective arms. Pretty wild.
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It still runs!
I am very pleased with hearing this thing start right up and run without any new noises and not leaking anything. It ran about twenty minutes and I swear if I had a lower control arm to throw on it and a driver side axle and a pair of tie rods it would move again and possibly find a way to a dirt track.
The car has since been propped for the engine and transmission to be removed. I am still waiting on a engine puller and stand but it's 80% ready to come out. After that, the car is probably going to hang out until the price of scrap goes back up before it's sent to car heaven.
2016-2019, R.I.P
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I wrecked the car and should have been killed.
Some time ago over on TOV we discussed briefly the crash worthiness of my Acura Vigor regarding it's older engineering and pillar-less doors. I feared the day would come that I got to test it out however on Friday the 1st of November I did just that.
Me videoing and walking around after I climbed back up the cliff barely just two weeks post op from having my gallbladder removed.
To make a short story sort of short, I was attending TougeFest at US129 Tail of the Dragon and had been driving the car all day with a large group of friends. Having a great and SAFE, near miss free time. We stopped to take a break from driving and the cars sat a little over an hour while the summer tire compound lost some of their traction worthiness as the day fell to near 30 degrees. Driving down Hellbender the car begins to struggle with the uneven pavement surfaces and less adhesion from the tires. My rear sway bar and dumb driving does not help this. I noticed the difference too late and thought to make the decision to take it down a notch but I was too late.
The rear end stepped out while coming through a tight right hand corner while going over patches of rougher pavement. In a panic, instead of steering into the direction I needed to go and staying on the gas to pull the car out of oversteer I slammed on the brakes which with the lack of ABS functioning and the compromised summer tire compound only sped up the process of my car sliding off the cliff, at this point drivers door first and into a tree. From there I think the car swung passenger side into a second tree where I would proceed to drop steeply about 200 feet and 'pin ball' through other trees into the river where the car landed passenger side half in the water.
First thing the came through my mind when I began to slid and not regaining control was "It's happening now" and I remember pulling myself down and toward the radio while holding onto the wheel tightly. I never felt the first hit but I heard all of the glass shatter and metal crinkle. After the second hit I opened my eyes trying to see where my car was headed. I knew I slid into the tree line that fenced the road in but I wasn't aware of how far the drop off was in that area. I expected my car to be stopped, wedged against a tree and the side of the cliff but instead I saw that I was almost nose diving through brush and smaller trees. The interior lights were on at that time from the door jams distorting allowing the door switches to open the circuit. As my car violently slid down hill I took quick note of the dash buckled in but that the roof wasn't crushed yet so I tried pulling myself in closer in preparation for the worst, rolling over and the roof crushing down on me or hitting a tree brand head first through the windshield. What felt like forever in falling the car with loud bangs coming from all around and below me, I finally came to a stop after two more hard hits.
I remember sitting back up right in my seat slowly afraid to throw off the balance of the car. In my head I imagined it teetering on the edge of another drop. First thing I see is the headlights shooting beams across the river bank and along the tree line and my gauge cluster glowing despite being smashed almost a whole foot over from where it should be. The LED interior lighting revealed my hands were still firmly grasping the 7 and 4 position on the wheel. I looked over my shoulder and saw water flooding into the back floor and into the front passenger floor next to me. I took the keys from the ignition to avoid any potential delayed air bag deployment and made sure that my phone and wallet were still in my pockets. I unbuckled my belt and crawled out of the drivers door window then sat on a large rock where I could vaguely see the drivers side of the car smashed from A pillar to C pillar revealing an imprint of a large tree.
I sat there alone maybe a second or two before I heard my friends who were driving ahead and behind me (and witnessed it) call down to me asking if I was hurt. I was not. I checked my ears, face, scalp, shoulder, leg and body for any cuts, bleeding or any immediate swelling and found nothing. I was able to crawl back into the car to retrieve a shoe which was lodged behind the pedal assembly. As I sat there I noticed the car wasn't smoking or hissing aside from a popped tire bead. The entire front end miraculously made it through without a single major impact. The front bumper was pulled off and the headlights and grill slightly damaged but the front crumple zone was 100% intact and the engine was sitting happy in it's place, not leaking a drop of coolant. Even the subframe and core support is unbothered.
About five minutes go by and a car stops. They have about 500 feet of rope and with it tied to their wheel and a friend hiking it down to me, I was able to pull and climb up most of the way on my own where I was met by a large crowd who cheered for me and all surrounded and hugged me.
From there, about three hours later when the correct men show up I get two minor citations and start to plan the extraction of my car and ways to get it five hours back home. The citations were failure to maintain lane control, weather related, and improper speed for weather conditions. Both completely dropped thankfully.
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It's amazing that I came out alive, even more so without a scratch or bruise. I was somehow able to sleep in my cabin that night with relative ease. I suppose still in shock. The following day I was not even sore from the wreck and emotionally held up ok given that car was my everything. The car held up extremely well for the speeds I was traveling and the age. I will get another one. And that I did!
![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
About a week later I got the car home thank to my wonderful mom and a family friend traveling and retrieving the car from a tow yard that I had paid to hold the car until I came I for it.
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I still question how I am here. The floor is buckled such that the driver seat is tilted toward the drivers door, which also is pushed so far in. Of course the A pillar, B pillar and door is pushed in a good deal also. Climbing back in and sitting in the car my shoulder is firmly against the door panel, I have no idea how I was not bruised at the least. I must not have lost my braced position.
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Securely lifted the car onto jack stands. Passenger side jack stand is fully extended, drivers is at it's lowest point to make the car sit even. The driver side is deformed downward about 5 inches or more form the cowl/ fire wall all the way through to the floor.
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Pretty tough control arm. It didn't really bend much, just ripped in the weaker parts.
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It tore right through the subframe mounting location though.
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Crash structure/ crumple zone spot welds stretched and popped as intended
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Straight crash structure (passenger side)
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Slightly deformed crash structure that's pulled downward and pushed half way back from the frontal impact area/ after the shock tower (driver side)
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Driver side wheel and knuckle assembly still intact. The ball joints for the lower, upper and tie rod pulled right out of their respective arms. Pretty wild.
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It still runs!
I am very pleased with hearing this thing start right up and run without any new noises and not leaking anything. It ran about twenty minutes and I swear if I had a lower control arm to throw on it and a driver side axle and a pair of tie rods it would move again and possibly find a way to a dirt track.
The car has since been propped for the engine and transmission to be removed. I am still waiting on a engine puller and stand but it's 80% ready to come out. After that, the car is probably going to hang out until the price of scrap goes back up before it's sent to car heaven.
2016-2019, R.I.P
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Burning Brakes
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Major repairs. Lots of money and time. Lots of rewarding time. Lots of learned skill.
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Major repairs. Lots of money and time. Lots of rewarding time. Lots of learned skill.
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Ah man, that is such a bummer. Sounds similar to how I wrecked my Integra at 18, but that was purely me exceeding my own limits at the time.
Given the amount of seat time you’ve had, nobody should fault your driving skills. It can’t be overstated how quickly traction degrades near freezing temps with low treadwear summer tires.
It is a lesson learned though, and you surely won’t do the same again. I know I haven’t.
Thanks for the update, now you can bring the knowledge you’ve gained along with you for the next project
Given the amount of seat time you’ve had, nobody should fault your driving skills. It can’t be overstated how quickly traction degrades near freezing temps with low treadwear summer tires.
It is a lesson learned though, and you surely won’t do the same again. I know I haven’t.
Thanks for the update, now you can bring the knowledge you’ve gained along with you for the next project
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Great Story and mainly because it had a happy ending of you being alive to post this.
My girlfriend's Dad lives in Maryville so whenever we make the trek up we hit the Dragon.
The irony is that over the years of having S2000, TL, CTS-V (this one would scare me there)
I have only done the dragon in 2 different minivans and an 04 Yukon XL. This last year we were
in the Odyssey and the shop was closed because out of season. The first year we went we
heard rescue going in for someone that ended up being a street bike and the guy didn't make it.
Nuts...
You should seriously contact Acura/Honda to do a story on you and how safe their cars are since you
documented so well and are enamored with the make and model.
Thanks for sharing, dude.
My girlfriend's Dad lives in Maryville so whenever we make the trek up we hit the Dragon.
The irony is that over the years of having S2000, TL, CTS-V (this one would scare me there)
I have only done the dragon in 2 different minivans and an 04 Yukon XL. This last year we were
in the Odyssey and the shop was closed because out of season. The first year we went we
heard rescue going in for someone that ended up being a street bike and the guy didn't make it.
Nuts...
You should seriously contact Acura/Honda to do a story on you and how safe their cars are since you
documented so well and are enamored with the make and model.
Thanks for sharing, dude.
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#132
Null and proud of it
I'm positive you'll be back in the Vigor game soon enough...
Damn... That's sad... I remember seeing the aftermath videos on YouTube...
Crazy how the car held up though!
I'm surprised you could tell the story so clearly... It was a good, novel read!
Damn... That's sad... I remember seeing the aftermath videos on YouTube...
Crazy how the car held up though!
I'm surprised you could tell the story so clearly... It was a good, novel read!
#133
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Glad you came out of it ok. Was definitely expecting the car to look worse considering your description.
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#135
Someday, an RS6 Avant+
The important thing is you are safe. Now for the rebuild
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#136
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That is nuts, loved following this build and your progress. Looking forward to the next project you begin but most importantly, glad you did not get hurt.
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