07 Z06 VS. 07 911 Turbo
02-09-2007, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Hopefully you're a bit sharper when it comes to other subjects....but cars are not one of your strong suits.
Porsche 911 40th Anniv. = 2004
Corvette 40th Anniv. = 1993
That aside, I'll go with the Vette. The 997 Turbo is ugly.
Porsche 911 40th Anniv. = 2004
Corvette 40th Anniv. = 1993
That aside, I'll go with the Vette. The 997 Turbo is ugly.
That aside, I'll go with the 911. The Z06 is ugly.
We all have different taste when it comes to cars, how come anytime someone disagrees with your taste they are wrong?
02-09-2007, 10:11 AM
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The Z06 is undoubtedly a powerhouse. But brute force speed and laptimes isn't everything. One of the reasons the MX-5 is so popular even though its as slow as a dog is because its a brilliant car to drive - the driver feels at one with the car and the car provides a satisfying driving experience.
Having driven neither the Z06 or the 911TT, I can only base my comments upon what I've read of the two cars in various magazine articles - I'd wager to say that the 911TT is probably more satisfying to drive.
That said, I think comparing a car with a backseat and AWD to an outright brute force machine like the Z06 is a moot point. A GT3 vs. a Z06 is a much better comparison.
Having driven neither the Z06 or the 911TT, I can only base my comments upon what I've read of the two cars in various magazine articles - I'd wager to say that the 911TT is probably more satisfying to drive.
That said, I think comparing a car with a backseat and AWD to an outright brute force machine like the Z06 is a moot point. A GT3 vs. a Z06 is a much better comparison.
02-09-2007, 10:33 AM
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If this were a C5 Z06 vs. an older 911, I'd take the Porsche over the Chevy. The C5 was not a very well built car, with poor handling, a cheap interior and poor fit and finish. However, GM has made leaps and bounds to improve their lineup, and the new Vettes are simply amazing. For a standard C6 to be able to hang with a Dodge Viper is something to talk about. And on a side note, the owner of a local bar/pool hall (who is an acquaintance of my GF) owns a C5 Z06 and is a member of a Vette club. On the opening night of the pool hall, a lot of his Vette friends came, and I kid you not there were at least 25 Vettes in the parking lot that night! Some of them were obviously modded, and they were sick. He said one of the guys has a twin turbo pushing 1000 hp.
02-09-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireguy
Funny I wasn't aware the vette had a famous history in racing like porsche does, which is what I was talking about by heritage.
That aside, I'll go with the 911. The Z06 is ugly.
We all have different taste when it comes to cars, how come anytime someone disagrees with your taste they are wrong?
That aside, I'll go with the 911. The Z06 is ugly.
We all have different taste when it comes to cars, how come anytime someone disagrees with your taste they are wrong?
Where did I say that if someone disagrees with me they are wrong?
Honestly, putting words in peoples mouth is really annoying.
All I brought up was badge issues, that's it.
If you like the 911 better, fine.....good luck to you buying one.
02-09-2007, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
The Z06 is undoubtedly a powerhouse. But brute force speed and laptimes isn't everything. One of the reasons the MX-5 is so popular even though its as slow as a dog is because its a brilliant car to drive - the driver feels at one with the car and the car provides a satisfying driving experience.
Having driven neither the Z06 or the 911TT, I can only base my comments upon what I've read of the two cars in various magazine articles - I'd wager to say that the 911TT is probably more satisfying to drive.
That said, I think comparing a car with a backseat and AWD to an outright brute force machine like the Z06 is a moot point. A GT3 vs. a Z06 is a much better comparison.
Having driven neither the Z06 or the 911TT, I can only base my comments upon what I've read of the two cars in various magazine articles - I'd wager to say that the 911TT is probably more satisfying to drive.
That said, I think comparing a car with a backseat and AWD to an outright brute force machine like the Z06 is a moot point. A GT3 vs. a Z06 is a much better comparison.
02-09-2007, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Race history? Oh whatever. Vettes have raced for years, its just that there wasn't a factory official race car until the C5-R.
Where did I say that if someone disagrees with me they are wrong?
Honestly, putting words in peoples mouth is really annoying.
All I brought up was badge issues, that's it.
If you like the 911 better, fine.....good luck to you buying one.
Where did I say that if someone disagrees with me they are wrong?
Honestly, putting words in peoples mouth is really annoying.
All I brought up was badge issues, that's it.
If you like the 911 better, fine.....good luck to you buying one.
I agree with the badge issue, as much as I don't like GM as a whole the C6(in particular Z51 and Z06) are tremendous cars and really a great example of what GM is capable of doing. For that matter I think the C5 Z06 was a fantastic car for its time, not what I personally would go for but I can see why so many do.
And I am in a position that if I wanted a 911 I could, instead I am re-investing in my businesses instead of spending on luxury items at 25 years old.
02-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
Win or lose, I'll take the German engineering please.
02-09-2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tireguy
And I am in a position that if I wanted a 911 I could, instead I am re-investing in my businesses instead of spending on luxury items at 25 years old.
I'm guessing by your UN/avatar that you're
1. In the tire/wheel business?
2. You sell/distribute Hamentashen & Rugala?
02-09-2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Well that makes sense.
I'm guessing by your UN/avatar that you're
1. In the tire/wheel business?
2. You sell/distribute Hamentashen & Rugala?
I'm guessing by your UN/avatar that you're
1. In the tire/wheel business?
2. You sell/distribute Hamentashen & Rugala?
How'd you figure it out!
02-09-2007, 06:33 PM
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The Z06 is the king of the affordable near supercar. I like both cars, but I am a performance guy at heart and wouldn't look at a 997TT. It's not as raw as the Z06 and that's what a sports car should be. Plus you can't beat the soundtrack of the LS7.
02-09-2007, 06:47 PM
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American cars bore me. I like the Porsche better. Anyway - anyone know the name of the song playing while the Porsche intro was on? I've heard it b4 n wanted to DL it but 4got the name...
02-09-2007, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
The Z06 is the king of the affordable near supercar. I like both cars, but I am a performance guy at heart and wouldn't look at a 997TT. It's not as raw as the Z06 and that's what a sports car should be. Plus you can't beat the soundtrack of the LS7.
So does affordable near supercar = de-laminating roofs? Just wondering?
02-09-2007, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
That kicks the shit out of cars 3x as expensive.
Don't be a badge snob.
Badge snobs are idiots for the most part and are not car enthusiasts by the true nature of the term.
Don't be a badge snob.
Badge snobs are idiots for the most part and are not car enthusiasts by the true nature of the term.
02-09-2007, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JCVTLS
I know what you are saying, and I feel the same way. I just get tired of hearing "badge snobs" when people say one car is bad and one that is more expensive is better. I know that there are tons of people who just like cars because they think they are good because they cost a lot. A lot of people who do not like American cars have been burned in the past and will not go back. I was brought up on foreign cars my entire life, and will probably never own an American car. When I was growing up, the only things that were in the garage were BMW's and Porsches, am I a badge snob? No. A lot of peoples car choices are infleuenced this way, they like what they see their parents driving, and just continue the cycle. Do I think that the ZO6 is a nice car? Yes I do. BUT it would be hard for me to ever own one because of the 'neck that was driving the one in the video. It is that type of person that annoys me to no end.
02-09-2007, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
Good to see my big brother beating up another German competitor. 
02-09-2007, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
The Z06 is undoubtedly a powerhouse. But brute force speed and laptimes isn't everything. One of the reasons the MX-5 is so popular even though its as slow as a dog is because its a brilliant car to drive - the driver feels at one with the car and the car provides a satisfying driving experience.
Having driven neither the Z06 or the 911TT, I can only base my comments upon what I've read of the two cars in various magazine articles - I'd wager to say that the 911TT is probably more satisfying to drive.
That said, I think comparing a car with a backseat and AWD to an outright brute force machine like the Z06 is a moot point. A GT3 vs. a Z06 is a much better comparison.
Having driven neither the Z06 or the 911TT, I can only base my comments upon what I've read of the two cars in various magazine articles - I'd wager to say that the 911TT is probably more satisfying to drive.
That said, I think comparing a car with a backseat and AWD to an outright brute force machine like the Z06 is a moot point. A GT3 vs. a Z06 is a much better comparison.
02-09-2007, 10:23 PM
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y'allz dem carz sux... this is teh best racing heratage..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FtMJ8jf2z0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FtMJ8jf2z0
02-09-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ecks
I agree.The upcoming GT2 would be a far more outright challenge for the ZO6...Then we can truly decide whos the winner...My money is on the GT2...
02-09-2007, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JCVTLS
So does affordable near supercar = de-laminating roofs? Just wondering?
Does affordable near Luxury car (1999-2003 TL) = busted tranny after vusted tranny? I was wondering this as i drove integras and rsxs for most of my TL's life.
02-09-2007, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
y'allz dem carz sux... this is teh best racing heratage..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FtMJ8jf2z0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FtMJ8jf2z0
02-10-2007, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JCVTLS
So does affordable near supercar = de-laminating roofs? Just wondering?
02-10-2007, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bigman
Yeah, but at that point the price would be a point as well. The GT2 will be more expensive and thus value/dollar comes in big time. For the price of a gt2, you could have a z06, mod the shit outta it, and by a TL-S as a daily driver.
02-10-2007, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
y'allz dem carz sux... this is teh best racing heratage..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FtMJ8jf2z0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FtMJ8jf2z0
02-10-2007, 09:58 AM
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I've loved porsches for a long time.. I love the old aircooled ones... .
But I'd have to take a Z06 over a new 997...
It's funny, 'cause the 997 actually doesn't look that bad (at least not as bad as a 996) due to the round headlights, but somehow the designers over in germany screwed up on the 997 turbo... it looks like ass
If we were comparing a 993 to a non-zo6 C5 vette, I'd probably go with the porsche...
But I'd have to take a Z06 over a new 997...
It's funny, 'cause the 997 actually doesn't look that bad (at least not as bad as a 996) due to the round headlights, but somehow the designers over in germany screwed up on the 997 turbo... it looks like ass
If we were comparing a 993 to a non-zo6 C5 vette, I'd probably go with the porsche...
02-10-2007, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JCVTLS
So does affordable near supercar = de-laminating roofs? Just wondering?
02-10-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
In light of the state of contemporary German Engineering, 6 of one and half dozen of the other.
What if it's a bakers dozen?
02-10-2007, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
And I wouldn't be surprised if that Evo cost more (with mods and labor) than the Z06.
02-10-2007, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
No it means kicking the snot out of the overpriced German and Italian competitors in their own backyard(Nurburgring). You obviously have no clue what you are talking about from your previous postings, so I am going to take this as a clear bias towards American cars.
And why are those cars overpriced?
02-11-2007, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by daemonicus
sounds like you're a little bitter than a japanese 4-banger beat the big, bad, american muscle?
02-11-2007, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bigman
He's not bitter, he's right. Those big power evos cost a lot of money. I should know because i'm in the industry. That evo could easily cost over 40 grand in parts and labor if done right. If not, then a few months from now the Z06 will be happy motoring along, while the evo is being rebuilt. Put 40 grand into anything and you can have a monster. Shit, my brother and I are currently building a budget RX-7 with an LS1 swap that will cost us under 11k hopefully. By the time we are said and done, we will have a close to 500 whp all motor RX-7 that runs 9's-10's. And if we opt for a 150 shot, its game over for most cars out there. The point i am trying to make is that with the right idea, money and dedication, you can make any car beat out even the best.
I agree with you.But in the end it all comes down to "the bang for your buck"..Any daily driver car can be modded to hell and back or you can just buy a classic or as some people say "badge snob" car and just float down Sunset Blvd...Its all about what the driver wants from his money...Power and styling with a considerable budget OR an exotic and style icon...
Well said Bigman.
02-11-2007, 03:44 AM
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damn that RX7 sounds like its gonna be nutty! please post a writeup when its done! pics, the whole nine yards! thx
02-11-2007, 12:23 PM
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damn that RX7 sounds like its gonna be nutty! please post a writeup when its done! pics, the whole nine yards! thx