ThinJim

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some good news, was speaking with comptech today and was told they have an 04 TL that they are putting a supercharger on. Was told it is a 6 speed car. They even said perhaps an aftermarket pressure plate for that car, which is the same as the cl's may be in the development stages, but no promises

sixgearcl

im jealous of people with 04 tl's with manual transmissions...

UNCTYPE-S

and the auto will be in october or somewhere around there i believe.

NSX-Tuner

Why? The CLS 6MT is as good or even a little bit better than the 04 TL in many ways; performance, handling, interior quality; IMHO. Don't get me wrong, If I didn't have my CLS 6MT and couldn't find one, I'd definitely be looking for an 04 TL 6MT.

NSX-Tuner

CT is working on a new ECU piggyback to be used on the 04 TL S/C kit. I was told that the current ESM used in the CLS S/C kits doesn't work very well with the 04 TL's ECU. So CT is developing a better device that will allow remapping for the ECU. I've also been told if this works out, that they may also consider making this new device available to upgrade existing S/C kits - to make more power and/or handle the HBP. I can only hope...

jimcol711

LOL!!!! interior quality better on a CL-S than a 04 TL??? what drugs are you smoking?!!!! the 04 TL interior is GENERATIONS ahead of the "honda" interior on the CL

JZ

True--but the seats in the CLS are still better than the 04 TL!

mattg

your such a hater jim. the 2001 cl-s interior was generations ahead of any 'honda' interior from 2001.



i hope you blow a turbo in your audi.



well, say something. i see you, mr. invisable mode. :gheylaugh:

Chaptorial

I had an 04 TL as a loaner for day and I wouldn't go as far as to say its interior is GENERATIONS ahead of an 03 CL. It was nice and it definitely looked updated, no question about that but I wasn't blown away by it. Except by those damn gauges.

The aluminum trim in the 03-CL's made up for the shortcomings of that bowling ball trim in the 01 & 02 CL's. The TL I drove didn't have Navi which would really help when undermining the CL's interior but still I was more then happy to be in my 03 CL at the end of the day.


Back to the discussion at hand, an 04 TL 6MT with a CT S/C is gonna be .

Lets hope the car mags are able to get a better time then 14.2 with one.


EDIT- Why did u delete your post Matt?

mattg

because i don't feel like arguing with that jackass. it would be exactly what he wants.



btw, bowling ball > silver trim.

ferizzo

wordizzle!

I will wait for the 05/06 TL AWD 6-speed and then boost it!

NSX-Tuner

I've had a couple of 04 TLs for loaners, one even with a nav. Overall I liked the TL, but didn't like the seats nor the way the dash was laid out. Not only did there seemed to be even more plastic than there was in my 03 CLS 6MT, it looked a bit cheesy to me. For me, my CLS's interior just looked and felt better overall than the TL's; especially the seats. As for drugs, I don't do them. It all boils down to personal tastes - one opinion vs. another. So no need to get into the attack mode.

NSX-Tuner

Them is fighting words. BTW, your previous post disappeared. I'm guessing you wanted to avoid something...

Chaptorial

runnerX

I really don't see the point of supercharging a FWD that already have nearly 300hp. It needs to be AWD or RWD.

goldmemberer

If you boosted an AWD vehicle that has electric motors powering the rear wheels and an engine up front... wouldn't that give the AWD a permanent FWD bias and make it like a 70/30 F/R distribution of power?

Just wondering. And I know that the 05 RL isn't gonna be using electric motors.

Chaptorial

Why is that?

GreenMonster

I'm not... By the time I'm old enough to want a 4 door, I'll probably want a auto tranny too

TypeS_boi

damn, you guys w/ the SC's suck! J/k..i love your car man!

SiGGy

HAHAHA

all of you people justifying your car...

the TL is nicer in about every way than the CLS...

this is just like the BMW isnt better than Acura.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....

Lets just do some "off the top of my head" things CL vs. TL (hahaha)

Where's your all auto windows up and down? and windows controled by the remote? GPS controled A/C? dual seat heaters on passenger seat? trip computer? 270hp? (ya, wait until TL mods come out) 18" factory wheels (optional) Super audio 5.1 surround sound... bluetooth integration...

DO I NEED TO KEEP GOING?



common guys...

SiGGy

I agree with that! My $$ is being stored in the bank for when I purchase my next project. I'm almost there

Keep the CLS to get to work and get grocerys.... like it's suppose to be used for

Seattle Cl-S

Obviously, you haven't had the good fortune of driving a S/C'd CLS/TLS. It's a much different car now and I wouldn't trade it for anything in this price range...and I only have the auto tranny!

runnerX

S/C CLS/TLS are fast car, no doubt about it, but how can those front tires handle direction and 300+ hp/tq at the same time?

RWD is much better platform in this case, since front tires handle direction and rear tires put those 300+ on the ground.. that is why you don't see any FWD Nascar or indy car..

Chaptorial

^
No arguments here, RWD would be ideal in these type of applications however from what I've been hearing the car is more then stable when running the S/C.

Its definitely not an AutoXer but on the highway I’m sure its go to be a blast.

mattg

no shit? :captainobvious:

pimpinTL02

who cares id still get a s/c...

BC2G

my dad is an idiot for buyin an auto

darrinb

04tl thats blown def is a sleeper

Joe5.0

Silver trim > Cheap ass looking wood trim

04 TL > CL in just about every major aspect

More hp, better interior, MUCH better looks, no 4x4 wheelgap, better tires, better radio/NAVI/guages, more comfortable seating position, tilt/telescoping steering wheel, projector HID's, & easier to use clutch.

The only part that the TL is lacking compared to the CL-S is torque steer & price. C'mon guys, the 01-03 CL-S is nice, but the 04+TL's are a definite improvement in most aspects. I wish I would have waited a couple more months to see what the TL's were like, but I would have in the end spent $5k more due to the rebate & special financing of the 03 CL-S.

mattg

i like my blackwood trim, thanks. and i've never had anyone say otherwise after seeing it in person.


every new car has silver trim. yay

darrinb

they took that bowling ball out in 03 for a reason matt

Black CL-S 4-Life

Blackwood trim > *

car_lost

they also discontinued the cl when the silver trim came out... hmmm, i may be on to something :P

Jaydef03

haha

how come ive never seen these S/C arguments in a thread where a fellow CL member talks about getting his own S/C. the 04 TL and CLS have only a 10 hp difference. a CLS with an S/C is roughly approaching 300 HP to the front wheels as well

evilstorm

i think me and you are the only people with that opinion; i cant stand the interior of my tsx and tl loaners

Loseit

iTrader: (1)

04 TL interior is light years ahead of our CL-S's...the only problem I had is that i felt the seats were waaaaaayyy too bigg. It is wierd...kinda like when a little kid is sitting in a huge chair....like the alice in wonderland kinda thing. That was my only complaint. But, the dash etc...is so much nicer. For me...the CLS is a better "fit"...but is in no way nicer than the TL.

KCPreki11

we have quite the genius on your hands.

darrinb

i thought the bowling ball trim was wicked when it first came out, i just think the titanium is more up to date...

allmotor_2000

Hmmm... wonder why they are making a new pressure-plate?!?

G

Yeah, that is a little nerveracking, But, I can't wait till it comes out. I am the second one on the waiting list at my dealership. I want it now!!