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Old 06-24-2005, 07:24 PM
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01' Cobra VS. 05' E55 AMG

Supposedly its numbers are 11.25 @ 129.45 mph for the amg...

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Old 06-24-2005, 07:36 PM
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If it was a modded 03+ Cobra, it would have been more interesting
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Heres a modded 03 vs e55

http://www.goyk.com/video.asp?path=1454
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e55 is a pig in terms of weight as well. That motor is just a beast....

560hp\580ftlbs w/ a Kleeman Stage 2, ecu, headers, pulley, before the 65 shot. You're looking at over 600hp-620ftlbs. It'll take a KB s/c swap, ecu, exhaust etc., to beat out a modded e55....and there is a stage 3 w/ full exhaust and CAMS @ 610\615ftlbs.

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Stock... The E55 is the fastest car on the road at any price level from 60 -90 mph. This includes all exotics. It's an amazing car.
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Originally Posted by Scott in Houston
Stock... The E55 is the fastest car on the road at any price level from 60 -90 mph. This includes all exotics. It's an amazing car.

I'm not so sure I'd take that bet with the new Z06 coming out.
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Originally Posted by Scott in Houston
Stock... The E55 is the fastest car on the road at any price level from 60 -90 mph. This includes all exotics. It's an amazing car.
Is that a fact? I believe you...but its easy to come up with others you would think are faster
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:39 PM
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i'd like to see the e55 run the stang w/o the 65 shot
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benz's all have great mid-range power. It's the hgihs the kill many of them from being fast. The E55 is pure power from start to finish. The new Z06 can outrun the E55 from a stop to 100mph or in the 1/4, but on the highway starting at 60 and going to 90 I would bet stock vs. stock the E55 would win.
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Originally Posted by darrinb
i'd like to see the e55 run the stang w/o the 65 shot
it would still be murder by the benz. he was pulling like a train.
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....love the E55 but I'm not brave enough to bet against a C6 Z06 with a skillful driver.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
....love the E55 but I'm not brave enough to bet against a C6 Z06 with a skillful driver.


And I wouldn't even bet it against the new M5
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Originally Posted by sbuswell
benz's all have great mid-range power. It's the hgihs the kill many of them from being fast. The E55 is pure power from start to finish. The new Z06 can outrun the E55 from a stop to 100mph or in the 1/4, but on the highway starting at 60 and going to 90 I would bet stock vs. stock the E55 would win.
Let's see:

The Z06 has 36 more HP, 41 ft/lb less torque, and weighs about 900lbs lighter. I think I'd pick the Z06 to win the race. I also believe the Ford GT is faster than the E55 60-90.
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I think the Enzo is faster too, lol

now..... what exactly was the point of THIS race???
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cusdaddy mentioned the new Ford GT and I would second that. Also there are several cars for the late 60's/early 70's that would had the AMG his lunch.

In 1969, you could get a Corvette with the ZL-1 (if you had the right connections). This car would turn 10.3's at over 130 MPH.. on street tires!! Chevy also offered this engine in the '69 Camaro.

Yes the AMG is DAMNED quick.. no doubt about it. But the old adage in cars.. there's always someone quicker.
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This was argued on FerrariChat for a long time. The conclusion was the 60-90 (and it was raced but the video link is dead) the Enzo did not keep up with the E55. Yes, ultimately it blew the E's doors, but on that initial jump 60-90, it didn't.
My 911 Turbo won't even do it with the X50.

The M5 won't even be close. That car is not torquey enough. The new M5 is kind of a let down actually. The E may still be all around faster in a straight line which is all these sedans are really good for. (And I'm a BMW fan admitting that)

I'm laughing a little at all the talk of the new C6 Z06. No one really knows yet. I'd still put my money on the E55, but who knows at this point?

Ford GT? It was never tested, but if the Enzo didn't, the Ford won't either...
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Originally Posted by Scott in Houston
This was argued on FerrariChat for a long time. The conclusion was the 60-90 (and it was raced but the video link is dead) the Enzo did not keep up with the E55. Yes, ultimately it blew the E's doors, but on that initial jump 60-90, it didn't.
My 911 Turbo won't even do it with the X50.

The M5 won't even be close. That car is not torquey enough. The new M5 is kind of a let down actually. The E may still be all around faster in a straight line which is all these sedans are really good for. (And I'm a BMW fan admitting that)

I'm laughing a little at all the talk of the new C6 Z06. No one really knows yet. I'd still put my money on the E55, but who knows at this point?

Ford GT? It was never tested, but if the Enzo didn't, the Ford won't either...
damn.... I just threw that "Enzo" out there for fun...... assuming it would be faster.... that is crazy.

shit, what about the McLaren F1? Koenigsegg? but damn..... the E55 is crazy! Look at the cars its being compared to.....
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Originally Posted by Scott in Houston
This was argued on FerrariChat for a long time. The conclusion was the 60-90 (and it was raced but the video link is dead) the Enzo did not keep up with the E55. Yes, ultimately it blew the E's doors, but on that initial jump 60-90, it didn't.
My 911 Turbo won't even do it with the X50.

The M5 won't even be close. That car is not torquey enough. The new M5 is kind of a let down actually. The E may still be all around faster in a straight line which is all these sedans are really good for. (And I'm a BMW fan admitting that)

I'm laughing a little at all the talk of the new C6 Z06. No one really knows yet. I'd still put my money on the E55, but who knows at this point?

Ford GT? It was never tested, but if the Enzo didn't, the Ford won't either...
There was a video posted a few weeks back with the new M5 vs. the E55 and the M5 blew it away in every acceleration test. (Can't remember if they did a 60-90 test though)
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Originally Posted by cob3683
There was a video posted a few weeks back with the new M5 vs. the E55 and the M5 blew it away in every acceleration test. (Can't remember if they did a 60-90 test though)
the M5 is faster overall. but damn, that 60-90...... looks to be the sweet spot of the E55....
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Originally Posted by Scott in Houston
Ford GT? It was never tested, but if the Enzo didn't, the Ford won't either...
The Enzo probably didn't start pulling on the E55 until it got in the higher revs. Ford GT has a Lysholm twin screw supercharger so it has a broader torque range then the high strung Enzo. The Ford GT has dynoed around 565WHP stock, so I'm pretty sure it'll pull on the E55 from any speed.
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Enzo?? .....so if the gloves are off:

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^^^ that would be a good race.....
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Ford GT

0-60: 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile: 11.6 @ 128 MPH


Will the Mercedes do that?
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Ford GT

0-60: 3.3 seconds
1/4 mile: 11.6 @ 128 MPH


Will the Mercedes do that?

11.25 @ 129.45 mph for the amg...


GT would be left behind......
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Originally Posted by Zapata
11.25 @ 129.45 mph for the amg...


GT would be left behind......
I'm pretty sure we're talking about a stock E55 here.... FOOL!!!!!!!!!

i.e. not the one in the video.
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Originally Posted by srika
I'm pretty sure we're talking about a stock E55 here.... FOOL!!!!!!!!!

i.e. not the one in the video.

you know what happens when you assume things........moreover what's the point of having a discussion???? If yer gonna mag race That being said...i'll take the e55 w/ another kleeman stage optional. At 4200lbs w/ driver that thing is a beast for a blown 8.

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Originally Posted by Zapata
11.25 @ 129.45 mph for the amg...


GT would be left behind......
Actually the Ford GT has done 11.2s @131MPH stock. I doubt it will be left behind.
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To Zapata;

I just notice the quarter mile times when entering this thread a moment ago. An 11.25 is quite impressive.

Car and Driver reported a 0-60 of 4.3 seconds and a quarter mile in 12.5 seconds in June '04.

The best 0-60 time I've ever seen for a non-"hotted-rodded" owner car was a factory exotic. It was a Ford Mustang with a Boss 429 punched out to (as I recall) 588 cubic inches. The engine was normally aspired and not on NOS and managed a 0-60 run in 1.9 seconds.

I have a neighbor who is nearly finished with his 3-year project car.. a Factory Five Racing replica of the 1965/66 AC Shelby 427 Cobra. He has a small block Ford displacing 331 cubes with AFR heads, a Comp roller cam with 1.7 rockers, the obligatory headers-to-side-pipes, and a serious after market intake and plenum. It's at just over 400 HP and the car weighs only 2300 pounds. One of the guys who comes by and has helped out from time to time has built two of these babies and his current one dynos at over 450 HP. My guess is he would give the Mercedes morning sickness.
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Oh, that's over 450 HP delivered to the rear wheels in his 2300 pound machine.

But still, the E55 is a serious street machine for very serious money.
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Actually the Ford GT has done 11.2s @131MPH stock. I doubt it will be left behind.
and the Enzo runs the quarter in 11.1 @ 136 yet for some reason the E55 beats it from 60-90....

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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Let's see:

The Z06 has 36 more HP, 41 ft/lb less torque, and weighs about 900lbs lighter. I think I'd pick the Z06 to win the race. I also believe the Ford GT is faster than the E55 60-90.

it's all about gearing when it comes to this
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yea def.....GT is nothing to mess with. All out road racer. Just throwing around some numbers. I'm a fan of both.

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To Zapata;

I just notice the quarter mile times when entering this thread a moment ago. An 11.25 is quite impressive.

Car and Driver reported a 0-60 of 4.3 seconds and a quarter mile in 12.5 seconds in June '04.

The best 0-60 time I've ever seen for a non-"hotted-rodded" owner car was a factory exotic. It was a Ford Mustang with a Boss 429 punched out to (as I recall) 588 cubic inches. The engine was normally aspired and not on NOS and managed a 0-60 run in 1.9 seconds.

I have a neighbor who is nearly finished with his 3-year project car.. a Factory Five Racing replica of the 1965/66 AC Shelby 427 Cobra. He has a small block Ford displacing 331 cubes with AFR heads, a Comp roller cam with 1.7 rockers, the obligatory headers-to-side-pipes, and a serious after market intake and plenum. It's at just over 400 HP and the car weighs only 2300 pounds. One of the guys who comes by and has helped out from time to time has built two of these babies and his current one dynos at over 450 HP. My guess is he would give the Mercedes morning sickness.
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Actually the Ford GT has done 11.2s @131MPH stock. I doubt it will be left behind.

eeek really? i stand corrected.
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eeek really? i stand corrected.
Yeah, it was in MT or R&T can't remember which mag. But it was a comparo with the CGT, Enzo, and Ford GT. The GT was only .1s slower then the CGT and .2s slower then the Enzo in the 1/4 mile, that's the quickest ET I've seen for the GT yet.
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i dont believe that a e55 can take a enzo from a roll, thats impossible

even the new m5 is faster than the e55 from a roll
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But what.. $93,000 for the E55?? Is that what it is?? For that kind of money, you could buy something like a new Z06 or the CTS-V Caddy, pump in $20+ grand and not only have something that would eat the E55 but have some change left over.

That's a lot of bread for a street car whose paint and windshield will nick and crack just like a $25,000 car. But I'm glad there are people who can and will spend the money for cars like that.
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But what.. $93,000 for the E55?? Is that what it is?? For that kind of money, you could buy something like a new Z06 or the CTS-V Caddy, pump in $20+ grand and not only have something that would eat the E55 but have some change left over.

That's a lot of bread for a street car whose paint and windshield will nick and crack just like a $25,000 car. But I'm glad there are people who can and will spend the money for cars like that.
E55 can be had for around $83,000-85,000.

The Z06 and E55 are two completely different vehicles. If you're point is about $$$$, then why should someone buy either one and instead buy the GTO and mod that to 600hp for under $50,000?

Car prices are relative in the eyes of a consumer. Some people think a $150,000 car is worth it, others will never spend over $25,000 because they don't see the point.

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Originally Posted by darrinb
i dont believe that a e55 can take a enzo from a roll, thats impossible

even the new m5 is faster than the e55 from a roll

that's not what he's stating, he's stating from 60-90 the E55 will take it, after that it'll be done


What is it about that concept people aren't understanding
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Enzo?? .....so if the gloves are off:

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What I don't understand is how a car like that runs a 10-sec. flat quarter mile. With that hp; it easily looks like a mid 11-sec car even with AWD and that weight; at BEST.
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