00 TL vs. 04 Neon SRT-4
 

Woo, tonight was pretty cool, went with my friend after work to meet up with one of his friends and I decided to race the SRT-4. My mods were obx exhaust and AEM cai. His SRT-4 was bone stock. I believe it was a 04 or lower but it was new. My friend counted 3, 2, 1 then boom me and him floored it, then me and him were in the same length till he hit 4th where he went 1 car ahead of me and that was where he beat me by 1 car length. I was not mad at all because I thought the TL would lose by 3-4 car lengths. I was pretty proud the TL caught up with the SRT-4. First loss for the TL

Good kill... are you 100% sure it was an SRT-4 though?

he lost, it wasn't a kill, and the car sounded like it was his friends and they were planning to race the two cars, so I'm sure he knows what kind of neon it is.


funny thing is you friend can't mod that srt-4 at all. It is already pushing out everything it is going to push out, without drastic modifications. Meaning, with a couple more mods you'll beat him, he has only cosmetic mods to do, you still have headers, pulleys, s/c, nos available. He's already turbo'd any without any mufflers, there is hardly anything he can do to he car and your's is barely started modding.

umm, ever heard of mopar??

this is stage 2:

http://www.mopar.com/street/tech.htm

I lost so it wasn't a kill.. Yes it was an SRT-4 for sure..

not true, mopar has a 2nd and 3rd stage for more hp!

Well, almost keeping up with that kind of power is like a kill in my book. I seriously thought you would have lost by atleast 3 carlengths. Props. ;) DO you have a TLS? Regardless, I bet your friend thinks you have quite a few secret goodies under the hood now. ;)

yeah, that's weird i raced one of those a few months ago in my 03 TL-S, he definitely had screwed with the boost valve or something, it blew loud as shit. dunno how slow they are stock...good job.

I will say this slow it is a neon, bottom line, sink 5 grand into an old Stealth and 5 grand into a S/C and you would kill almost anything on the road.. period...


If you buddy wants to go faster in a POS car, by all means go faster, the car is crap!!!

Anyone here could be beaten by a really souped up civic, but it is still a civic..

And Fsttyms1, if some idiot wants to get the mopar packages on a F'n neon, they deserve to be stuck in a Neon.. Try spending that money properly, I don't think someone is going to sink all the money into the overpriced neon, and then decide to throw another 4/5/6 grand for a mopar package.. I think most people with any common scence would get a used WRX before throwing away your money at a f'n neon..

i dont wanna be an ass but an unmodded SRT-4 will blow away a TL with i/e anyday. the driver prolly has a bit to learn about driving.


they are high 13s cars!!


@cUr@-TL :toocool:

No I have a TL-P

are you sure? i raced a srt4 and i have a type s with a aem cai and he beat me by 4 cars and still going. but i had 5 people in the car

oh and when he was about 4 car lenghts the tack was reading 125 mph when i let go

Well next time race by yourself because more people in your car will add more weight to your car and that can make a difference.

I raced a modded SRT-4 from a stop. I beat him by half a car length in a race up to third gear. I know his car could beat mines but he had no traction throughtout first and part of second gear. Its not about how much power a car has, its about driver and getting that power to the ground.

i know it makes a difference with people in the car. me and my friends just wanted to see that the srt-4 got. :grinfawk:

even though the SRT-4 can blow the doors off TL's the fact is, it's still a neon!

wow this is a funny thread. the srt-4 is no joke, a TL wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell against one. the dude prolly couldn't drive or somethin. i'm scared to death of one of those little bastards.

ResidualFreedom: there are plenty mods for the srt-4, i saw one on speedvision that they hooked up and it was hella fast.

though i don't like neons, that is one beastly ass car and it's very respectable in my book :thumbsup:

i don't doubt ur story or anything but i just find it surprising. good kill nonetheless.

Bottom line is the Srt 4 can be modded to destroy most cars on the road. I have already seen an SRT-4 pull high 11's on a stock turbo with 2500 in mods and drag radials.

realistically what can you get for 20k brand new that is a low 13 sec car, stock? even if it a neon, its a good deal for the money if you are looking for a fast car.

If you just want a fast car, for sure go with the neon. It is a great choice for pure speed. Want a car with leather and great stereo system that can romp on most 4bangers out there, that is the reason why this forum exists. gotta give it to dodge for making a fast POS. heheh (all in good fun) :chug:

i heard those Neons come with
a mechanic in the trunk!!

damn this thread came out of the blue. it was dead for a month :D

funny thing is you friend can't mod that srt-4 at all. It is already pushing out everything it is going to push out, without drastic modifications. Meaning, with a couple more mods you'll beat him, he has only cosmetic mods to do, you still have headers, pulleys, s/c, nos available. He's already turbo'd any without any mufflers, there is hardly anything he can do to he car and your's is barely started modding.[/QUOTE]

No modding? I happened to work on the project with company that supplies turbos to Chrysler. The same turbocharger goes into Neon and PT Cruiser. This company had tested larger size turbocharger on Neon. They said that Neon 4 cylinder engine was outputting close to 700 HP. Of course, nobody discuss engine lifespan.

No modding? I happened to work on the project with company that supplies turbos to Chrysler. The same turbocharger goes into Neon and PT Cruiser. This company had tested larger size turbocharger on Neon. They said that Neon 4 cylinder engine was outputting close to 700 HP. Of course, nobody discuss engine lifespan.[/QUOTE]
:agree: tHE srt-4 HAS I think 3 FACTORY upgrade packages to get to 300+ HP.
500HP SRT4s are running around already...

sorry im calling bs

any word on the engine life span? i will agree though, that for the money you can't beat what you're getting. you can always squeeze more power somehwere given you have the money. boost controllers, intake, exhaust mods, flywheels, etc.. i don't think dodge would have put the car out if they didn't think they could make some money off it in the aftermarket division.

SSTS

OK ... this is totally unrelated to the TL now ...
Thread closed.

OK...
Thread moved to ramblings and unlocked. Thanks supermods for fixing my mistake.

this has got to be a joke. Do you know ANYTHING about modding cars? There are already a more then a couple of them into the low 11's high 10's. AND COUNTLESS companies making tons of products fot hese things.

moved to car and bike talk where it should go ;)

dude, you have got to be one of the dumbest people i've met on the net talking about cars. First off, the old good stealths were turbo'd. Why the hell would you put an S/C on them. and the SRT-4 is overpriced? The things cost less then 20K. It's a bitchin little car and a world of difference from the basic neon. Sure anyone can make anything go fast, but that's the beauty of it. I wouldn't own one but the SRT-4's are KILLER cars

who cares if the motor blows, it'd a dodge motor, they can't be expensive ;)

Ok looks like I'm getting a bunch of "bad reputation Points" for a opinion/post I had/made, a month ago!!

Isn't everyone intitled to their opinion? I haven't even checked this thread in months and I saw the negative rep posts in my box and realized this thread is still open. Geeze get over it, you really trying to hammer a point across don't you?

Honestly, we are talking about the car here not the engine, BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!. You go cruzing in your Neon, with the engine that will blow anything away.

I know of a gremlin with a 350 in it that runs low 11's, but I wouldn't be caught dead in it, why???? BEACUSE IT'S a GREMLIN!!!!!


Now would you please quit with the inappropriate remarks in my "rep" box, it is only an opinion......get over it.

no, you were definately talking about the engine, and then you realizes you were completely clueless and tried to compare the car. Your comments that his car is maxed out and that the TL has more modding capabilities is what everyone was commenting to you on.


And anyways, we were talking about a SPEED CONTEST, not who got there in a nicer way. If you have a civic that can spank a ferrari you are gonna be fuckin stoked, but anyone short of a moron would of course want the ferrari.



I don't see how anything you said about the performance of these cars was "opinion"

bad rep points, I didn't even think about that :rofl:

this has got to be the funniest part of this thread BY FAR :rofl:

great opinion ;)

You could put an S/C, Headers, every mod available for the J32 and it still most likely wouldn't keep up w/ the SRT-4. Throw a couple of bolt ons on the SRT-4 and it'd be over. Just exhaust on those things are adding 20whp

to bad it was you, both times.. but enjoy the conversation with yourself, I really don't think anyone cares anymore......enjoy :lame:

oh stfu, you got :owned: and now your trying to take the "high road" gimme a break, you talked out of your ass and got caught... admit it.

actually, it was only me the last time, you can't give someone feedback more then once in a thread ;)

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