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10-12-2012, 04:08 PM
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Category: Wheels & Tires
Price: $1000
Private or Vendor Listing: Private Listing
Part Fits (you may select multiples): RDX
Location (State/Prov/Terr): AL
Item Condition: Used
10-12-2012, 04:16 PM
#42
He wants me to pay for shipping both ways. I will be losing money after a legit sale. That is not right. I spent time through this whole thing. These rims are rear to find color and brand used. trust me i have talked to him. He is not willing to work it out. I am the one getting f@@@ed in this.
10-12-2012, 04:16 PM
#43
I told him about those marks. They appeared just from driving. Ron Jon him self told me that the lip was there to take the hit insted of the wheel. They are 19" wheels the lip is very small. I bought these rims a little over a month ago. But I told him about the marks. I even spent money and time to try to cover up some of the marks. And he thanked me.
Last edited by squid_monky; 10-12-2012 at 04:23 PM.
10-12-2012, 04:23 PM
#45
He is right about the $1000. I did pay $960 but for the sake of typing just rounded it up. That is the only thing he is correct about. When we spoke on the phone he confirmed that there were only two blend and that they were by the lug holes. He said that they were Bradley noticeable. Funny thing is, I asked for the two hundre but then the next day realized how bad it was. I took them to my wheel guy to see if he could fix them (and salvage the deal) and he said no way. He also said that there is no way I will be able to get tires on them without making it all worse.
It's a jacked deal. I think everyone knows that my intent was to buy the wheels as described and pictured and nothing less. I care about the things on my vehicles and would have never even remotely been interested in these had they been listed correctly.
Say what you want Jason. The courts will see the same things everyone on here does. Now that you have called the police on me it changes things as well.
You were cool at first but now you are looking more and more shady every minute. The world needs less people like you. That's a fact.
It's a jacked deal. I think everyone knows that my intent was to buy the wheels as described and pictured and nothing less. I care about the things on my vehicles and would have never even remotely been interested in these had they been listed correctly.
Say what you want Jason. The courts will see the same things everyone on here does. Now that you have called the police on me it changes things as well.
You were cool at first but now you are looking more and more shady every minute. The world needs less people like you. That's a fact.
10-12-2012, 04:25 PM
#46
He wants me to pay for shipping both ways. I will be losing money after a legit sale. That is not right. I spent time through this whole thing. These rims are rear to find color and brand used. trust me i have talked to him. He is not willing to work it out. I am the one getting f@@@ed in this.
10-12-2012, 04:26 PM
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He has a point here, buying any used product has a risk factor to it. Having you pay for shipping both ways would be unfair, but your pictures don't help your cause at all. I think if you could prove that he was aware that there were other marks before you shipped the item, both parts paying of half the shipping would be fair. If it were me I wouldn't want to lose 200 flat out, but then again I wouldn't have posted immaculate pictures of my rims knowing that is not the case.
10-12-2012, 04:28 PM
#48
It's fair because you made me spend $100 to see that they were not as described and another $100 to send them back to you. It's crazy to me that you wouldn't see what I am asking as fair. I asked specifically if anything happened furring the tire removal. You said no. I said ship em and payed. If you had told me that more damage had been done I would have never made the purchase. Plain and simple.
10-12-2012, 04:33 PM
#50
He has a point here, buying any used product has a risk factor to it. Having you pay for shipping both ways would be unfair, but your pictures don't help your cause at all. I think if you could prove that he was aware that there were other marks before you shipped the item, both parts paying of half the shipping would be fair. If it were me I wouldn't want to lose 200 flat out, but then again I wouldn't have posted immaculate pictures of my rims knowing that is not the case.
Trust me. If this happened to you then you wouldn't be saying what you are saying.
10-12-2012, 04:34 PM
#51
First its not a legit sale if you didn't disclose everything and both of you have spent time on this so its not one-sided. It seems like your looking at this pretty selfishly you have to remember you getting the rims back and you can still sell them maybe not for what you were asking but you will still make money.
10-12-2012, 04:40 PM
#52
Instead of telling me about what happened (assuming that is what happened) they just tried to paint over it and then sent them to me. I even asked point blank if anything happened and was told no.
10-12-2012, 04:44 PM
#54
EJ... (EZZZZY1) If you want to get a return for the rims, that's fine. But you will have to pay the $100 for the shipping. Or get your friend to give you a deal on shipping like you did before. I am losing out too. i might have been able to sell them to someone else. Before i bought new ones. i almost bought used ones for $1200 off of acurazine that had way more marks. Man you should really put them on your truck they will look good. The marks will barley be seen.
Last edited by squid_monky; 10-12-2012 at 04:46 PM.
10-12-2012, 04:44 PM
#55
OMG dude i did tell him the way the rims were. I am not a professional seller and he is not a professional buyer. We made a deal on the phone. I even lowered it $200 from the original price i wanted. LIKE I SAID i would take them back and resale them. But if i pay the shipping both ways ill still lose $200 for nothing even if i sell them. In most online returns, the buyer pays for the shipping even on returns.
10-12-2012, 04:50 PM
#56
EJ... (EZZZZY1) If you want to get a return for the rims, that's fine. But you will have to pay the $100 for the shipping. Or get your friend to give you a deal on shipping like you did before. I am losing out too. i might have been able to sell them to someone else. You should just put them on your car. They will look good. before i bought new ones. i almost bought used ones for $1200 off of acurazine that had way more marks.Man you should really put them on your truck they will look good. and the marks will barley be seen.
10-12-2012, 05:04 PM
#57
I am not putting them on my car. Try to understand that some people don't like rims with rash and huge pieces of paint chip. If you refund me and I pay shipping then I spent $200 because of your mistake. That's not fair. I am not an unfair person. I even tried to work with you because you said you have a lot of problems but the bottom line is they cannot be fixed and I do not want them. You could have saved yourself all this grief by just being honest.
10-12-2012, 05:29 PM
#58
I told you about the marks on the phone. I didnt think to send you pictures, and you didnt think to ask for pictures to make sure you were ok with exactlly what the marks looked like. i told you they were on the lip and bolt holes. I could sell those rims no prob for $900 like i sold them to you. but im not losing out on the shipping.
I asked what they looked like and you told me they were from whoever putting the lug nuts on. That's it. You and I both know that and you confirmed that during our last conversation. What is so hard to understand about the fact that our conversation on the phone would have been over if you had said "oh and it's not in the listing but there are 15 rather large gashes on the lip". I would have said thanks for your time but I am looking for something in better condition.
10-12-2012, 05:37 PM
#59
I am not going to go back and forth. This will be the last time that I talk to you about settling without taking anyother paths.
I can't even believe I am saying it but I will split the shipping with you. You loose a hundred and so do I. You would be responsible for setting the return shipping up and getting me the labels.
I am not kidding when I say this is it. You would have 24 hours to get the labels sent to me and I would have them picked up and on their way to you on Monday.
I can't even believe I am saying it but I will split the shipping with you. You loose a hundred and so do I. You would be responsible for setting the return shipping up and getting me the labels.
I am not kidding when I say this is it. You would have 24 hours to get the labels sent to me and I would have them picked up and on their way to you on Monday.
10-12-2012, 05:45 PM
#62
I told you about the marks on the phone. I didnt think to send you pictures, and you didnt think to ask for pictures to make sure you were ok with exactlly what the marks looked like. i told you they were on the lip and bolt holes. I could sell those rims no prob for $900 like i sold them to you. but im not losing out on the shipping.
10-12-2012, 05:45 PM
#63
The way I see it, you have some very easy options. Both parties should stop being assholes (albeit the seller is more at fault).
I sold a set of 18x8 aspec wheels here on the forum. I had Never even had mounted them on my car. I purchased them used locally, found a set in better condition, and decided to resell before mounting.
Sold them and shipped them (with PROPER PACKAGING) to a member here on the forum. He received them, went to get tires mounted, and they told him 3/4 of them were bent. I had no idea they were bent, he had no idea they were bent. Essentially we were both fucked. (Just like the seller AND the buyer in this situation...
He called me, explained, and I told him my part. I had bought them used and didn't know. Told him I was screwed just like he was.
I offered 3 options:
-Ship the wheels back to me, I'd eat the cost of shipping them to him and he would eat the cost of shipping them back. Neither of us were at fault so we both took risks and the only fair option would be to split the loss in shipping costs
-I would resell the wheels on Acurazine, and have him ship them out from his location on my behalf (saves him costs of shipping back to me) and have the new buyer pay shipping on the wheels
-Have the wheels repaired and I would cover repairing the bends.
In the end, the buyer agreed to have the wheels repaired. He paid 400$ to have all 4 wheels fully refurbished including bends and all curb damage. I agreed to cover half the damage if he covered the other half. Worked out well since he got PERFECT A-Specs in the end. He got the benefit of only paying 200$ to get all the wheels in perfect condition (they were sold with curbage) and I paid $200 to make him happy with the transaction and allow him to get what he actually paid for.
You two have the same three options. Pick one, do it, and move on.
Integrity>a few hundred bucks.
I sold a set of 18x8 aspec wheels here on the forum. I had Never even had mounted them on my car. I purchased them used locally, found a set in better condition, and decided to resell before mounting.
Sold them and shipped them (with PROPER PACKAGING) to a member here on the forum. He received them, went to get tires mounted, and they told him 3/4 of them were bent. I had no idea they were bent, he had no idea they were bent. Essentially we were both fucked. (Just like the seller AND the buyer in this situation...
He called me, explained, and I told him my part. I had bought them used and didn't know. Told him I was screwed just like he was.
I offered 3 options:
-Ship the wheels back to me, I'd eat the cost of shipping them to him and he would eat the cost of shipping them back. Neither of us were at fault so we both took risks and the only fair option would be to split the loss in shipping costs
-I would resell the wheels on Acurazine, and have him ship them out from his location on my behalf (saves him costs of shipping back to me) and have the new buyer pay shipping on the wheels
-Have the wheels repaired and I would cover repairing the bends.
In the end, the buyer agreed to have the wheels repaired. He paid 400$ to have all 4 wheels fully refurbished including bends and all curb damage. I agreed to cover half the damage if he covered the other half. Worked out well since he got PERFECT A-Specs in the end. He got the benefit of only paying 200$ to get all the wheels in perfect condition (they were sold with curbage) and I paid $200 to make him happy with the transaction and allow him to get what he actually paid for.
You two have the same three options. Pick one, do it, and move on.
Integrity>a few hundred bucks.
Last edited by quanaman; 10-12-2012 at 05:48 PM.
10-12-2012, 05:54 PM
#64
Sorry if you mistook my "I'm completely fucking pissed off about this deal and how it's being handled by the sell" attitude for me being an asshole but I'm not. I just want this resolved.
In your case it seems that an honest mistake had been made. In this case I received something different than what was explained and pictured. I respect you for handling your situation the way you didn and would appreciate the same from Jason.
P.S. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you would get a little assholeish. Lol
In your case it seems that an honest mistake had been made. In this case I received something different than what was explained and pictured. I respect you for handling your situation the way you didn and would appreciate the same from Jason.
P.S. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you would get a little assholeish. Lol
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10-12-2012, 06:15 PM
#65
Sorry if you mistook my "I'm completely fucking pissed off about this deal and how it's being handled by the sell" attitude for me being an asshole but I'm not. I just want this resolved.
In your case it seems that an honest mistake had been made. In this case I received something different than what was explained and pictured. I respect you for handling your situation the way you didn and would appreciate the same from Jason.
P.S. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you would get a little assholeish. Lol
In your case it seems that an honest mistake had been made. In this case I received something different than what was explained and pictured. I respect you for handling your situation the way you didn and would appreciate the same from Jason.
P.S. I'm sure if you were in my shoes you would get a little assholeish. Lol
10-12-2012, 06:17 PM
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The way I see it, you have some very easy options. Both parties should stop being assholes (albeit the seller is more at fault).
I sold a set of 18x8 aspec wheels here on the forum. I had Never even had mounted them on my car. I purchased them used locally, found a set in better condition, and decided to resell before mounting.
Sold them and shipped them (with PROPER PACKAGING) to a member here on the forum. He received them, went to get tires mounted, and they told him 3/4 of them were bent. I had no idea they were bent, he had no idea they were bent. Essentially we were both fucked. (Just like the seller AND the buyer in this situation...
He called me, explained, and I told him my part. I had bought them used and didn't know. Told him I was screwed just like he was.
I offered 3 options:
-Ship the wheels back to me, I'd eat the cost of shipping them to him and he would eat the cost of shipping them back. Neither of us were at fault so we both took risks and the only fair option would be to split the loss in shipping costs
-I would resell the wheels on Acurazine, and have him ship them out from his location on my behalf (saves him costs of shipping back to me) and have the new buyer pay shipping on the wheels
-Have the wheels repaired and I would cover repairing the bends.
In the end, the buyer agreed to have the wheels repaired. He paid 400$ to have all 4 wheels fully refurbished including bends and all curb damage. I agreed to cover half the damage if he covered the other half. Worked out well since he got PERFECT A-Specs in the end. He got the benefit of only paying 200$ to get all the wheels in perfect condition (they were sold with curbage) and I paid $200 to make him happy with the transaction and allow him to get what he actually paid for.
You two have the same three options. Pick one, do it, and move on.
Integrity>a few hundred bucks.
I sold a set of 18x8 aspec wheels here on the forum. I had Never even had mounted them on my car. I purchased them used locally, found a set in better condition, and decided to resell before mounting.
Sold them and shipped them (with PROPER PACKAGING) to a member here on the forum. He received them, went to get tires mounted, and they told him 3/4 of them were bent. I had no idea they were bent, he had no idea they were bent. Essentially we were both fucked. (Just like the seller AND the buyer in this situation...
He called me, explained, and I told him my part. I had bought them used and didn't know. Told him I was screwed just like he was.
I offered 3 options:
-Ship the wheels back to me, I'd eat the cost of shipping them to him and he would eat the cost of shipping them back. Neither of us were at fault so we both took risks and the only fair option would be to split the loss in shipping costs
-I would resell the wheels on Acurazine, and have him ship them out from his location on my behalf (saves him costs of shipping back to me) and have the new buyer pay shipping on the wheels
-Have the wheels repaired and I would cover repairing the bends.
In the end, the buyer agreed to have the wheels repaired. He paid 400$ to have all 4 wheels fully refurbished including bends and all curb damage. I agreed to cover half the damage if he covered the other half. Worked out well since he got PERFECT A-Specs in the end. He got the benefit of only paying 200$ to get all the wheels in perfect condition (they were sold with curbage) and I paid $200 to make him happy with the transaction and allow him to get what he actually paid for.
You two have the same three options. Pick one, do it, and move on.
Integrity>a few hundred bucks.
10-12-2012, 06:37 PM
#67
I am not going to go back and forth. This will be the last time that I talk to you about settling without taking anyother paths.
I can't even believe I am saying it but I will split the shipping with you. You loose a hundred and so do I. You would be responsible for setting the return shipping up and getting me the labels.
I am not kidding when I say this is it. You would have 24 hours to get the labels sent to me and I would have them picked up and on their way to you on Monday.
I can't even believe I am saying it but I will split the shipping with you. You loose a hundred and so do I. You would be responsible for setting the return shipping up and getting me the labels.
I am not kidding when I say this is it. You would have 24 hours to get the labels sent to me and I would have them picked up and on their way to you on Monday.
This is the best solution offered so far and squid_monky should take it.
I recommend to squid_monky that he takes this offer and runs with it.
10-12-2012, 06:46 PM
#68
if you sent as a gift then you might be up shits creek. sorry man. if you pay for merchandise as a 'gift' than you have no recourse when something like this happens.
lesson learned i suppose.
how do people treat other people like this? it's the way the world is now'adays. seller knew the wheels were not as described, already had your $1000 payment in his hands, sent the wheels across the country to you knowing that he'd never have to deal with you personally.
people are grimey man. more often than not.
lesson learned i suppose.
how do people treat other people like this? it's the way the world is now'adays. seller knew the wheels were not as described, already had your $1000 payment in his hands, sent the wheels across the country to you knowing that he'd never have to deal with you personally.
people are grimey man. more often than not.
My ONLY opinion is...Packaging in a box with BLUE PAINTERS TAPE, did not! do that damage shown above. That was preexistence damage and may or may have not been existing when the original pics were taken that were used for the FS/BM thread...Just a thought. Wish buyer luck!
10-12-2012, 07:26 PM
#69
The damage done to the rims is super fine scratches on all the high spots. Probably buffable and honestly I would be disappointed if that's all that was wrong but would not be Wanting a refund.
10-12-2012, 09:42 PM
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All-in-all it seems you two are coming to a relatively mutual agreement. Hope things work out
10-13-2012, 12:49 AM
#72
LOL fucking squid is a funny guy. Look what he pm'd me. Buthurt cause he fucked up on a sale and he knows it.
Also! If funny guy over here decides to refund then make him refund first and then transfer the funds to your bank account. ONCE PAYMENT CLEARS THEN SHIP THE WHEELS back so you dont get fucked over twice. Trust me, ive shipped stuff out before without payment getting cleared and what happened? I lost in the end empty handed.
Also! If funny guy over here decides to refund then make him refund first and then transfer the funds to your bank account. ONCE PAYMENT CLEARS THEN SHIP THE WHEELS back so you dont get fucked over twice. Trust me, ive shipped stuff out before without payment getting cleared and what happened? I lost in the end empty handed.
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10-13-2012, 01:04 AM
#74
The offer is on the table. I would like to know what you want to do Jason. It would be nice to put this behind us and not have to look back.
Let's just get this done man, we have the chance to do it.
Let's just get this done man, we have the chance to do it.
10-13-2012, 01:11 AM
#75
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The way I see it, you have some very easy options. Both parties should stop being assholes (albeit the seller is more at fault).
I sold a set of 18x8 aspec wheels here on the forum. I had Never even had mounted them on my car. I purchased them used locally, found a set in better condition, and decided to resell before mounting.
Sold them and shipped them (with PROPER PACKAGING) to a member here on the forum. He received them, went to get tires mounted, and they told him 3/4 of them were bent. I had no idea they were bent, he had no idea they were bent. Essentially we were both fucked. (Just like the seller AND the buyer in this situation...
He called me, explained, and I told him my part. I had bought them used and didn't know. Told him I was screwed just like he was.
I offered 3 options:
-Ship the wheels back to me, I'd eat the cost of shipping them to him and he would eat the cost of shipping them back. Neither of us were at fault so we both took risks and the only fair option would be to split the loss in shipping costs
-I would resell the wheels on Acurazine, and have him ship them out from his location on my behalf (saves him costs of shipping back to me) and have the new buyer pay shipping on the wheels
-Have the wheels repaired and I would cover repairing the bends.
In the end, the buyer agreed to have the wheels repaired. He paid 400$ to have all 4 wheels fully refurbished including bends and all curb damage. I agreed to cover half the damage if he covered the other half. Worked out well since he got PERFECT A-Specs in the end. He got the benefit of only paying 200$ to get all the wheels in perfect condition (they were sold with curbage) and I paid $200 to make him happy with the transaction and allow him to get what he actually paid for.
You two have the same three options. Pick one, do it, and move on.
Integrity>a few hundred bucks.
I sold a set of 18x8 aspec wheels here on the forum. I had Never even had mounted them on my car. I purchased them used locally, found a set in better condition, and decided to resell before mounting.
Sold them and shipped them (with PROPER PACKAGING) to a member here on the forum. He received them, went to get tires mounted, and they told him 3/4 of them were bent. I had no idea they were bent, he had no idea they were bent. Essentially we were both fucked. (Just like the seller AND the buyer in this situation...
He called me, explained, and I told him my part. I had bought them used and didn't know. Told him I was screwed just like he was.
I offered 3 options:
-Ship the wheels back to me, I'd eat the cost of shipping them to him and he would eat the cost of shipping them back. Neither of us were at fault so we both took risks and the only fair option would be to split the loss in shipping costs
-I would resell the wheels on Acurazine, and have him ship them out from his location on my behalf (saves him costs of shipping back to me) and have the new buyer pay shipping on the wheels
-Have the wheels repaired and I would cover repairing the bends.
In the end, the buyer agreed to have the wheels repaired. He paid 400$ to have all 4 wheels fully refurbished including bends and all curb damage. I agreed to cover half the damage if he covered the other half. Worked out well since he got PERFECT A-Specs in the end. He got the benefit of only paying 200$ to get all the wheels in perfect condition (they were sold with curbage) and I paid $200 to make him happy with the transaction and allow him to get what he actually paid for.
You two have the same three options. Pick one, do it, and move on.
Integrity>a few hundred bucks.
10-13-2012, 02:04 AM
#76
EJ... (EZZZZY1) If you want to get a return for the rims, that's fine. But you will have to pay the $100 for the shipping. Or get your friend to give you a deal on shipping like you did before. I am losing out too. i might have been able to sell them to someone else. Before i bought new ones. i almost bought used ones for $1200 off of acurazine that had way more marks. Man you should really put them on your truck they will look good. The marks will barley be seen.
this dude was shady and weird when he was dealing with me, i hope you get your money back for the wheels. definetely have him refund you before you ship them out, dont wanna get burned with the money and the wheels.
10-13-2012, 09:43 AM
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Maybe the OP can take that $200 and add a little more on top to get them freshly refinished/powdercoated? Makes life a little easier than to have lots of $$$ lost on shipping 
10-13-2012, 10:31 AM
#79
Brother, suck it up and take the hit on shipping them back to the seller. It will be peace of mind to be done with this frustration and anger it is bringing you and your family up to this point, right? It isn't worth all the hassle to file a small claims in this guys home town when you can just walk away from this for the cost of return shipping. The seller , Jason is clearly acknowledging he will take the wheels back and offer you back your $960. Hell, if you did a paypal claim they would require you to send back the goods anyway (and never pay for something on PP as a 'gift'!!). And if you did a credit card charge-back you would have to return those rims so or you would look like the bad guy (getting rims for free).
Just box them up with the same shitty painters tape and be done with it and have a great weekend!!!
and squid_monkey. Best to try and sell your beat to shit rims elsewhere at this point, and take pictures of the condition.
Just box them up with the same shitty painters tape and be done with it and have a great weekend!!!
and squid_monkey. Best to try and sell your beat to shit rims elsewhere at this point, and take pictures of the condition.
He is right about the $1000. I did pay $960 but for the sake of typing just rounded it up. That is the only thing he is correct about. When we spoke on the phone he confirmed that there were only two blend and that they were by the lug holes. He said that they were Bradley noticeable. Funny thing is, I asked for the two hundre but then the next day realized how bad it was. I took them to my wheel guy to see if he could fix them (and salvage the deal) and he said no way. He also said that there is no way I will be able to get tires on them without making it all worse.
It's a jacked deal. I think everyone knows that my intent was to buy the wheels as described and pictured and nothing less. I care about the things on my vehicles and would have never even remotely been interested in these had they been listed correctly.
Say what you want Jason. The courts will see the same things everyone on here does. Now that you have called the police on me it changes things as well.
You were cool at first but now you are looking more and more shady every minute. The world needs less people like you. That's a fact.
It's a jacked deal. I think everyone knows that my intent was to buy the wheels as described and pictured and nothing less. I care about the things on my vehicles and would have never even remotely been interested in these had they been listed correctly.
Say what you want Jason. The courts will see the same things everyone on here does. Now that you have called the police on me it changes things as well.
You were cool at first but now you are looking more and more shady every minute. The world needs less people like you. That's a fact.
