Basically its like a low end version of the RedOne, except its also a camera. Essentially the Red uses a DSLR chip and shoots in RAW, so video on D90 is an interesting concept.

 

Well, Frank, like I said above, movie mode in an SLR camera may be important to some, like you and srika and I'm sure many others, but it's not something I think I'll ever want. I guess I view still photography as being a different genre (for lack of a better term) than movie photography, and it's still photography that I love and pursue as an absorbing hobby. I love films as an art form as much as anything else, but to me there's something magical about capturing a single moment for posterity.

That said, I have no doubt movie mode will be in all consumer level SLR's at some point in the near future. Anyway, interesting thread.

 

Dude...its NOTHING like the RED one...trust me.

Incidentally...I was down at RED headquarters for the firs time today...and sitting in my living room is a FULL red one package

 

In concept maybe

You bastard . One of our teachers has a Red, and a little while back graduate came down to demo us on his which is fully decked out. .

I'm looking forward to seeing where this takes the film industry, I know Kodak was pretty upset about the red lol.

 

Care to clue in an ignorant fool as to what exactly RED is?

 

wikipedia "red one"

 

Thank's for fixing your post. I was pretty sure that there wasn't a music producer sitting in Sarlacc's living room.

 

Chuck Norris embodied as a camera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dig...Camera_Company

The RED basically gives you nearly the performance and quality of actual 35mm film, at a fraction of the cost. No more need for incredibly expensive DI (Digital Intermediate) for special effects. No processing and film costs, the same abilities as shooting a still camera in RAW (can change color balance, exposure, color etc without compromising picture quality and can do it on the fly), and you can have the same amount of control of depth of field as film. You can even edit the footage on a lowly consumer laptop using the video proxies, and the body only costs $17,000. Plus it can shoot up to 4K, even though there are only a few projectors around that can even display something that high resolution at the moment. So even film productions with a limited budget can have 35mm like footage, and if need be you can even use SLR lenses instead of cinema lenses.

 

I will address this post when I'm not on my iPhone.

You have a lot to learn young one.

 

So, yeah. The RED camera is another new HD camera on the forefront of technology. Along with the Sony F23/F35 and a few others.

Yes it takes Cine style lenses. Yeah it gives greater depth of field (its a 16x9 chip) but yes its full sized.

Yes it shoots RAW, much like the Genesis and Arri D21, and others. But it does set it up in much more a DSLR manner.

Its can shoot 4k...which is HUGE files.

You can use Nikkor lenses with an adapter (but god knows why you would.)

You will STILL require a DI session for timing, but no, you wont have to digitize a film negative.

Performance of shooting 35mm. Not quite. Its still video. VERY good video, but video nonetheless.

The body costs 17.5k....but once once accessorize it out, youre at 30-80k

There are two new models coming, one has a 5k chip.

LIke most HD...whatever money you save upfront, you'll end up shelling out on the back end for post, film transfers, etc.

Sure, shooting this can "save" money for TV or smaller shows. But when it comes down to it, its really still as much as shooting Super 16 or 35 for bigger projects.

As for the whole film vs digital in the movie world....its another tool in the toolbox. no more no less. film is here to stay for a while longer. And any teacher you might have tell you otherwise must not work too much these days.

 

Interesting

 

Who needs video in dSLR's

http://vimeo.com/922215

 

^ very nice. I want to try that one day..

 

That timelapse is way cooler than anything you'd take with a dslr movie wise.

 

sooo.. could we call the D90 a "poor man's RED"???

if we can, that ain't too bad a deal!

 

oh and, I have une question for all the naysayers... what were your thoughts after the introduction of the "digital" SLR? yea/nay?

 

I think this is the same flv as posted earlier, but in-line format..

http://www.nikonproducts.co.uk/d90-video.aspx

 

Having used film cameras from 1985, I didn't buy my first dSLR until four years ago, Original Rebel. The price point and that it was better than the three digital p&s I had.

Call me a nay sayer, but when there is much more for them to do with the advancement of dSLR for IQ and DR. That's were they should be working and after reading about what Canon is doing with the new 50D and Digic IV chip, I'm happy.

The link I posted earlier, this one, http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/200...ing-nikon.html you see the guy take his hand away from the camera and say that's hot. Not HAWT.

 

I've been doing a lot of timelapse lately, even some in IR.

 

^When do we get to see some?

 

When I shoot something interesting.

I've just been experimenting so far, but I do like it. I'm sure my shutter doesn't like it too much though. 24fps adds up to a lot of frames in a hurry...

 

yeah I agree with you jupe - they have a long way to go in terms of IQ.

and the rest of the whole discussion is making a little more sense to me now. regarding DSLR + video.

 

Just post one up for the hell of it. It's not like my "dancing sprouts" was all that interesting. Just a proof of concept and experiment.

 

I'm the biggest gadget head there can just about be. And it did look cool watching the jarvis video. But when it comes to dSLR's I guess the gearhead goes and the old school purest comes out.

 

oh so now that I let my guard down you get all diplomatic.. . hehe.

jk

see ya in R&P

 

Here are a few random tests:

This one is really short because I really wasn't sure if it was going to work:
<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0TiRcPwXTfs"> </param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0TiRcPwXTfs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"> </embed> </object>


Cooking S'mores around the fire pit at the cottage...
<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fBQq2UC3XDw"> </param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fBQq2UC3XDw" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"> </embed> </object>


A little longer IR video test. This time you can see a fly that lands on the lens and walks around for a while.
<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/m6IEVKGYF3A"> </param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/m6IEVKGYF3A" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"> </embed> </object>

 

GAWD, I hate that place. The past two days is the most I've been in there, for the entire time I've been on AZ. But it's about a Presidential election.

 

haha.. yeah I kinda like never set my foot in there too.. and when I do, I kinda wonder why I did.. ;p

 

cool stuff Dan, clouds cool and the random people walking up to the camera is funny. didn't see the fly tho.

 

The fly is in the lower left corner of the frame, near the end of the video.

I'd love to try the IR timelapse thing again. These vids are all 1080P, so it looses a lot in the youtube conversion. It looks great in HD!


I think this was the first timelapse I attempted:
<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5czxY59-pMs"> </param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5czxY59-pMs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"> </embed> </object>

 

Awesome stuff Dan!

 

 

Definitely not a forum for the thin-skinned. I've been lanced on more than one occasion. I've enjoyed reading your posts there.

 

The cloud movement is really dramatic in those time lapse pieces, Dan. Look forward to more.

 

my name is srika and I'm not being serious with this post.

 

<object width="400" height="300"> <param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1654288&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" /> <embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1654288&amp;server=vimeo.com &amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portr ait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object>

Meh.. I'll get something better next time.. this was with around 900 pictures

 

pretty good but @ music And vimeo is where it's being hosted? That's pretty good IQ, much better than youtube.

 

That's a fun idea yohan!

 

man i want to go back to Tahoe.

 

I uploaded to youtube first, but it turned out like crap. vimeo seems good, and they support HD too.

and regarding the music, oh well. not my favorite song, but then I'm pretty fobby..