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I've been shooting Fuji's since Feb 2013, love them! It was the first mirrorless with CMOS sensor. Wouldn't buy a mirrorless without big sensor.
As for Sony, they're great for putting out bodies, still waiting to see if they commit with lenses. Not a fan of adapters to have to use lenses on these smaller bodies, defeats the purpose, making them bigger.
As for Sony, they're great for putting out bodies, still waiting to see if they commit with lenses. Not a fan of adapters to have to use lenses on these smaller bodies, defeats the purpose, making them bigger.
I think that was my problem looking at Sony so you hit the nail on that one.
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The big price drop makes that worth looking at. I have read that Canon is giving up on that body for North America though.
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They released an M2 in Japan, but not here.
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nice nice.
I feel like buying one. lol
I feel like buying one. lol
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Based off my current preferred style of shooting I've actually been debating about dusting off my gf1 and exploiting its look.
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Resurrecting this thread a bit.
There's a newer thread, but that one is for a specific budget range.
This video seems to cover the the basics of DSLR/Mirrorless pretty fairly:
Having a histogram and exposure preview in viewfinder has been appealing to me for AGES now, and It's
just not happening on the Canon side. I'm currently pondering getting the A7R III as it has the least tradeoffs
compared to my 5d mark III. ( aka "comparable" EVF, Full frame, decent battery life, etc).
I'm wondering who else out there has gone from DSLR -> MIrrorless, and what you particularly liked/disliked
and if there's any interesting insights you have to share.
For example, I'm not sure how annoying it'll be going from "always leave on and having semi instant wake from sleep"
to "turn on and off constantly and have a longer startup time". My on/off switch is pretty stiff on my 5d3.
There's a newer thread, but that one is for a specific budget range.
This video seems to cover the the basics of DSLR/Mirrorless pretty fairly:
Having a histogram and exposure preview in viewfinder has been appealing to me for AGES now, and It's
just not happening on the Canon side. I'm currently pondering getting the A7R III as it has the least tradeoffs
compared to my 5d mark III. ( aka "comparable" EVF, Full frame, decent battery life, etc).
I'm wondering who else out there has gone from DSLR -> MIrrorless, and what you particularly liked/disliked
and if there's any interesting insights you have to share.
For example, I'm not sure how annoying it'll be going from "always leave on and having semi instant wake from sleep"
to "turn on and off constantly and have a longer startup time". My on/off switch is pretty stiff on my 5d3.
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Resurrecting this thread a bit.
There's a newer thread, but that one is for a specific budget range.
This video seems to cover the the basics of DSLR/Mirrorless pretty fairly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ1njZRMjtI
Having a histogram and exposure preview in viewfinder has been appealing to me for AGES now, and It's
just not happening on the Canon side. I'm currently pondering getting the A7R III as it has the least tradeoffs
compared to my 5d mark III. ( aka "comparable" EVF, Full frame, decent battery life, etc).
I'm wondering who else out there has gone from DSLR -> MIrrorless, and what you particularly liked/disliked
and if there's any interesting insights you have to share.
For example, I'm not sure how annoying it'll be going from "always leave on and having semi instant wake from sleep"
to "turn on and off constantly and have a longer startup time". My on/off switch is pretty stiff on my 5d3.
There's a newer thread, but that one is for a specific budget range.
This video seems to cover the the basics of DSLR/Mirrorless pretty fairly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ1njZRMjtI
Having a histogram and exposure preview in viewfinder has been appealing to me for AGES now, and It's
just not happening on the Canon side. I'm currently pondering getting the A7R III as it has the least tradeoffs
compared to my 5d mark III. ( aka "comparable" EVF, Full frame, decent battery life, etc).
I'm wondering who else out there has gone from DSLR -> MIrrorless, and what you particularly liked/disliked
and if there's any interesting insights you have to share.
For example, I'm not sure how annoying it'll be going from "always leave on and having semi instant wake from sleep"
to "turn on and off constantly and have a longer startup time". My on/off switch is pretty stiff on my 5d3.
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Resurrecting this thread a bit.
There's a newer thread, but that one is for a specific budget range.
Having a histogram and exposure preview in viewfinder has been appealing to me for AGES now, and It's
just not happening on the Canon side. I'm currently pondering getting the A7R III as it has the least tradeoffs
compared to my 5d mark III. ( aka "comparable" EVF, Full frame, decent battery life, etc).
I'm wondering who else out there has gone from DSLR -> MIrrorless, and what you particularly liked/disliked
and if there's any interesting insights you have to share.
For example, I'm not sure how annoying it'll be going from "always leave on and having semi instant wake from sleep"
to "turn on and off constantly and have a longer startup time". My on/off switch is pretty stiff on my 5d3.
There's a newer thread, but that one is for a specific budget range.
Having a histogram and exposure preview in viewfinder has been appealing to me for AGES now, and It's
just not happening on the Canon side. I'm currently pondering getting the A7R III as it has the least tradeoffs
compared to my 5d mark III. ( aka "comparable" EVF, Full frame, decent battery life, etc).
I'm wondering who else out there has gone from DSLR -> MIrrorless, and what you particularly liked/disliked
and if there's any interesting insights you have to share.
For example, I'm not sure how annoying it'll be going from "always leave on and having semi instant wake from sleep"
to "turn on and off constantly and have a longer startup time". My on/off switch is pretty stiff on my 5d3.
Battery life isn't as good as the normal dslr but not horrible. Batteries are light and cheap. The wake time is pretty fast, I've never had an issue with it.
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Haven’t switched, have been shooting Fuji for four yrs. Still using Nikon for my wildlife. Fuji pretty much from 10mm-300mm. Don’t regret it one bit. Main things I like about Fuji, many, many lenses are offered. Many are small like, 18-55, 55-200mm and their F/2 primes, all great lenses without high price. And the small form factor that many go to mirrorless for. I’m not using adaptors, to use lenses that Fuji doesn’t make. Only using an adaptor to shoot 40 and 50yr old Helios lenses.
The best.., WYSIWYG, with electronic viewfinder. Put on 15 stop ND filter on it and can still view the scene for comp and focus. They do suck up batteries. And size, throw on a 35f2 on my XT’s. Just like my old film camera back in the 80’s. The XT’s have always controls on body no looking through menus for exposure buttons. Aperture controls on lenses.
The best.., WYSIWYG, with electronic viewfinder. Put on 15 stop ND filter on it and can still view the scene for comp and focus. They do suck up batteries. And size, throw on a 35f2 on my XT’s. Just like my old film camera back in the 80’s. The XT’s have always controls on body no looking through menus for exposure buttons. Aperture controls on lenses.
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Okay, I finally got my A7r III.
Some random toughts:
EVF:
For normal shooting, seeing what your final exposure is as expected - quite wonderful. No more needing to take test pictures and see what parts are blown out. Seeing live histogram, combined with Zebras over overexposed parts provides immediate feedback which is a time saver.
Something I hadn't considered is that if you were going to crop anyway (because your lens doesn't zoom enough), you can go into 'crop mode' and frame/shoot that way. The histogram shows you the exposure of the 'crop part'. While you could still shoot 'in full', the histogram would include the parts of the picture you planned to throw away and is thus misleading.
For flash shooting, turning OFF exposure preview and letting the EVF just adjust brightness lets you see what's going on when it's dim/dark. Now instead of pitch black heads, I can actually see if they are smiling or not!
For DSLRS, to get a big viewfinder you have to have a big sensor. That's not the case with mirrorless, since they are disconnected. I believe the G9 has the largest viewfinder now - and it's a micro 4/3 camera!
So far, the EVF is as comfortable as my OVF. It's interesting it uses more power than the larger rear LCD. I guess it has to refresh faster to avoid eye strain.
Size:
The A7r III is about half a pound lighter than my old 5D. Noticable but not signifigant. I'll take it. I actually wish the body was bigger. Being a left eye shooter, my face is all over the back of the camera, making some of the 'center' buttons/joystick a bit annoying. My thumb is all over my cheek/nose. I guess this just takes time to adjust.
It's nice to see more and more large body mirrorless cameras. It's just more ergonomic and gives you room for more external buttons/dials/etc. Not to mention more room for a bigger battery!
I'm considering buying a grip extender so my pinky has something to hold onto, but I might not need it since I don't have real heavy lenses. We'll see. I still plan to use my 5D in 'harsher' conditions as it just feels tougher/more weatherproof than the A7R.
Silent mode:
It's nice to have dead silent picture taking ability. Churches/weddings/whatever.
It's limited by rolling shutter and banding issues - only the A9 has near artifactless electronic shutter. Something stupid is there's no 'visual' feedback that you took a picture in the A7R, which is a little disorienting. But I see myself still using it a decent amount.
There's really no question that mirrorless will take over the consumer DSLR market.
Some random toughts:
EVF:
For normal shooting, seeing what your final exposure is as expected - quite wonderful. No more needing to take test pictures and see what parts are blown out. Seeing live histogram, combined with Zebras over overexposed parts provides immediate feedback which is a time saver.
Something I hadn't considered is that if you were going to crop anyway (because your lens doesn't zoom enough), you can go into 'crop mode' and frame/shoot that way. The histogram shows you the exposure of the 'crop part'. While you could still shoot 'in full', the histogram would include the parts of the picture you planned to throw away and is thus misleading.
For flash shooting, turning OFF exposure preview and letting the EVF just adjust brightness lets you see what's going on when it's dim/dark. Now instead of pitch black heads, I can actually see if they are smiling or not!
For DSLRS, to get a big viewfinder you have to have a big sensor. That's not the case with mirrorless, since they are disconnected. I believe the G9 has the largest viewfinder now - and it's a micro 4/3 camera!
So far, the EVF is as comfortable as my OVF. It's interesting it uses more power than the larger rear LCD. I guess it has to refresh faster to avoid eye strain.
Size:
The A7r III is about half a pound lighter than my old 5D. Noticable but not signifigant. I'll take it. I actually wish the body was bigger. Being a left eye shooter, my face is all over the back of the camera, making some of the 'center' buttons/joystick a bit annoying. My thumb is all over my cheek/nose. I guess this just takes time to adjust.
It's nice to see more and more large body mirrorless cameras. It's just more ergonomic and gives you room for more external buttons/dials/etc. Not to mention more room for a bigger battery!
I'm considering buying a grip extender so my pinky has something to hold onto, but I might not need it since I don't have real heavy lenses. We'll see. I still plan to use my 5D in 'harsher' conditions as it just feels tougher/more weatherproof than the A7R.
Silent mode:
It's nice to have dead silent picture taking ability. Churches/weddings/whatever.
It's limited by rolling shutter and banding issues - only the A9 has near artifactless electronic shutter. Something stupid is there's no 'visual' feedback that you took a picture in the A7R, which is a little disorienting. But I see myself still using it a decent amount.
There's really no question that mirrorless will take over the consumer DSLR market.
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Takeover sure, ..., it’s going to be many yrs. Mirrorless is still behind. Once mirrorless has gotten rid of the lag, it’ll be perfect.
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Doesn't seem like there is enough discussion on Panasonic to justify its own thread, so I'll post this here.
Panasonic just announced the GH5S.
They cut the resolution in half down to 10.2MP for better low light capture.
Still can capture 4K (4096x2160) at 60fps.
Boosted sensitivity from ISO 25,600 to 51,200 without going into extended range.
Dual native ISO from ISO 400 to 2,500.
14-Bit RAW image capture.
Multi aspect ratio sensor.
Supports time code in and out synchronization.
Panasonic just announced the GH5S.
They cut the resolution in half down to 10.2MP for better low light capture.
Still can capture 4K (4096x2160) at 60fps.
Boosted sensitivity from ISO 25,600 to 51,200 without going into extended range.
Dual native ISO from ISO 400 to 2,500.
14-Bit RAW image capture.
Multi aspect ratio sensor.
Supports time code in and out synchronization.
$2500, goes on sale Feb 2nd
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just saw the biggest omission on this cam. No IBIS.
Now why does this cost $500 more than the GH5?
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Panasonic full frame mirrorless cameras announced.
S1:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/802646...sampled-4k-30p
S1R:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/018671...3699-body-only
S1:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/802646...sampled-4k-30p
S1R:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/018671...3699-body-only
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They made the bodies as big as regular DSLRs...might be a pro for some, con for me.
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That grip looks really nice thou.
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It’s all confusing right now, but I’m not seeing any mention of internal 4K60 recording.
also no mention of high bitrates with All-I compression.
Unless it’s in that paid upgrade or coming later.
4k 60/30/24 caps out at 150mbps long-gop in 10-bit 4:2:2
1080p 60/30/24 caps at 100mbps long-gop 10-bit 4:2:2
https://www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-l...-mount-lenses/
also no mention of high bitrates with All-I compression.
Unless it’s in that paid upgrade or coming later.
4k 60/30/24 caps out at 150mbps long-gop in 10-bit 4:2:2
1080p 60/30/24 caps at 100mbps long-gop 10-bit 4:2:2
https://www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-l...-mount-lenses/
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It’s all confusing right now, but I’m not seeing any mention of internal 4K60 recording.
also no mention of high bitrates with All-I compression.
Unless it’s in that paid upgrade or coming later.
4k 60/30/24 caps out at 150mbps long-gop in 10-bit 4:2:2
1080p 60/30/24 caps at 100mbps long-gop 10-bit 4:2:2
https://www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-l...-mount-lenses/
also no mention of high bitrates with All-I compression.
Unless it’s in that paid upgrade or coming later.
4k 60/30/24 caps out at 150mbps long-gop in 10-bit 4:2:2
1080p 60/30/24 caps at 100mbps long-gop 10-bit 4:2:2
https://www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-l...-mount-lenses/
Hey Panasonic...FUCK YOU. Not only is that bullshit compared to what others offer...its setting a bad precedent for all the other makers to fuck over their buyers with this shit as well.
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A Cine LUMIX Camera to be announced May 31st.
might be the GH6 or a video oriented S1-S.. or something else.
might be the GH6 or a video oriented S1-S.. or something else.
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Alicia Robbins is supposedly going to make the announcement.
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Mutual friend I see
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Famous director
What kind of half assed "reporting" is that site doing?
She is a director of photography...and while she has been around, she has been operator, like me, whose big shooting breaks started happening last year. Famous...yeah, about as famous as I am. She is a fantastic person, dont get me wrong, but that website clearly is full of it.
What kind of half assed "reporting" is that site doing?
She is a director of photography...and while she has been around, she has been operator, like me, whose big shooting breaks started happening last year. Famous...yeah, about as famous as I am. She is a fantastic person, dont get me wrong, but that website clearly is full of it.
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Yea I searched her on IMDb and I was like “she doesn’t look like a famous director”
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Rumors are now saying it’s going to be a L-Mount full frame cinema camera.
Supposedly built like a tank
nothing to see here for me at least.
Supposedly built like a tank
nothing to see here for me at least.
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The announcement is being made at Cinegear next weekend. Which is one of the largest film industry trade shows. So, my guess is this will be the next version of the EVA-1 camera or something in-between the GH and that.
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Panasonic m43 10-25mm f1.7 specs and price leaked.
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Specs:
Press text:
- Lens construction: 17 elements in 12 groups (3 aspherical lenses, 4 ED lenses, 1 UHR lens)
- Mount: Micro Four Thirds mount
- Focal length: f=10-25mm (35mm camera equivalent 20-50mm)
- Aperture type: 9 diaphragm blades / Circular aperture diaphragm
- Maximum aperture: F1.7
- Minimum aperture: F16
- Closest focusing distance: 0.28m / 0.92′
- Maximum magnification: Approx. 0.14x / 0.28x (35mm camera equivalent)
- Diagonal angle of view: 94° (Wide) – 47° (Tele)
- Dust and splash resistant: Yes*
- *Dust and Splash Resistant does not guarantee that damage will not occur if this lens is subjected to direct contact with dust and water.
- Recommended operating temperature: -10°C to 40°C (14°F to 104°F)
- Filter size: φ77mm
- Maximum diameter: φ87.6mm / 3.45″
- Overall length: Approx. 128mm / 5.04″ (from the tip of the lens to the base side of the lens mount)
- Weight: Approx. 690g / 24.34oz (excluding lens cap, lens rear cap and lens hood)
- Model number: H-X1025
Press text:
Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Summilux 10-25mm f/1.7 Lens – H-X1025
LEICA DG VARIO-SUMMILUX 10-25mm / F1.7 ASPH. H-X1025 from Panasonic is built for mirrorless Micro Four Thirds mount cameras and enables F1.7 aperture brightness throughout the entire 20-50mm (35mm camera equivalent) zoom range with exceptionally high optical performance clearing the stringent LEICA standards. Suitable not only for photo shooting but also for video recording to satisfy both professional photographers and videographers.LEICA DG VARIO-SUMMILUX
LEICA Camera AG’s strict quality standards optimized for photo/video has been developed into this ruggedized mirrorless Micro Four Thirds mount lens.F1.7 Full Range
F.17 high-speed aperture brightness is available across the entire zoom range of 10-25mm (35mm camera equivalent of 20-50mm).Lens System
Comprising 17 elements in 12 groups, the lens system features three aspherical lenses and four ED (Extra-low Dispersion) lenses that effectively suppress the axial chromatic aberration and chromatic aberration of magnification. Spherical aberration and distortion are also corrected by the aspherical lenses for stunningly high resolution. The use of aspherical lenses and the optimum design of the lens system results in a compact size and light weight despite its outstanding optical performance.Performance
Compatibility with a maximum 240-fps high-speed sensor drive realizes high-speed, high-precision autofocusing. Notably, the new lens excels in video recording performance. In addition to the silent operation achieved by the inner focus drive system, the stepless “de-clicked” aperture ring and micro-step drive system in the aperture control section help the camera to smoothly catch up to brightness changes when zooming or panning. The optical design achieves exceptional barycentric stability to minimize image shifts during zooming. Adoption of a focus clutch mechanism enables instant AF/MF switching and accurate manual focusing. The lens also excels in video recording performance with a mechanism that suppresses focus breathing, which was a fatal problem of all interchangeable lenses designed for still image photography.
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Post the actual fucking link for christs sake.
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I thought I did. My bad. I’m doing this on my phone.
https://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-1...t-focuscamera/
https://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-1...t-focuscamera/
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I thought I did. My bad. I’m doing this on my phone.
https://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-1...t-focuscamera/
https://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-1...t-focuscamera/