Street Spirit

You better not go full frame and leave me in the dust! Especially since my original plan when switching to digital was to get the 5D right off the bat.... but the deal on the 30D was just too tempting.

Street Spirit

I may never see Dan again.

srika

good info.

srika

you two know each other????

/"old skool blast from AZ past" post

Dan Martin

I feel a little silly ordering the 50D not knowing what exactly the 5D replacement will offer, but I can always return the 50D is something amazing comes out at Photokina. At least this way I can be assured that I have something on it's way. Two photographers living in the same house with only one camera isn't much fun.

There have been many "I'll make you shoot film" comments lately.

jupitersolo

I forgot that you guys were w/o two 30D's.

Street Spirit

And lots of "Yeah! That sounds like a really cool shot!! ......Too bad you don't have a camera." or "So, what are you gonna shoot that with?"




You're not getting mine

Street Spirit

Well see, I met this Dan guy in person and fell in love with his....telephoto lens.

srika

got TMI?

EuRTSX

LOL

Dan Martin

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Mizouse

yea i saw that video a while back .

waTSX

Dan Martin

The date already got pushed back a bit... it looks like October 10th now.

That wait is going to be brutal!

Mizouse

september seemed a bit too early.

waTSX

DPR has some more varied sample images from the 50D up on their site now:

http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/cano...eview_samples/

Dan Martin

Thanks for the link!

I never know what to make of DPreview's sample images. Sometimes they're really excellent, other times it looks like they handed the camera to their janitor to snap some shots around town. These are somewhere between those extremes. The colours look pretty desaturated in some images, but who knows what settings they used for these in-camera JPGs. A few images look great though.

I think the one of most interest is the ISO6400 one of the fruit. The noise and banding is pretty poor in the shadows at 100% magnification. The exposure (or lack thereof) is really what's killing that shot. If you're going to use high ISO, you need to expose well to the right. The good news is there's a lot of detail left in the image, so it would clean up nicely with Noise Ninja. Also, since this is a in-camera JPG, much more could have been done with a RAW image. DPP is really very good at reducing noise.

I'm only on Day 3 of my wait and I'm dying already.
I love reading all these tests and reviews, but on the other hand, they drive me nuts because I can't try it out for myself.

srika

I clicked through 10-15 of them and was like ??? the clarity and definition is terrible... I do think its something with the processing. I get better pictures with my D70. Hell, after processing I get better ones with my SD550.

Dan Martin

That's just it... there are so many picture quality settings that can be adjusted in-camera for JPGs that it's anyone's guess what they did. I like the images in the D90 preview to be honest, but some of those are even oversaturated IMO.

I need to get my hands on a few RAW files...

Mizouse

man, that 6400 kind of looks like my 3200

i will wait for more examples.

waTSX

Interesting reactions. I thought the shots looked pretty good myself, with good color, clarity and sharpness. Sure, the ISO 6400 shot is noisy blown up, but it looks pretty good at the regular size and it's a full stop better than the 40D. The metal relief of the ship shot at ISO 1600 looked really good, but it looks like that one was exposed more like Dan was talking about, to the right of the histogram.

The full reviews will reveal more and I would like to see some shots made from RAW files also.

jupitersolo

30 more shots using UDMA cards. Nice!

Mizouse

to bad no increase for raw.

Mizouse

thats it, i want one now! or a D3/D700

damn crappy indoor lighting!

i was shooting the volleyball match against UCLA, and was at 1/400th f/2.8 iso3200, and man are those shots are noisy! plus it was barely able to stop motion

waTSX

A few more shots from a pre-production 50D, including a couple at ISO 3200. They look pretty clean and you can d/l the full sized images:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tekgik/...57607275211451

jupitersolo

Release date 6 Oct ?????

http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/15/c...for-pre-order/

Mizouse

do you think it would be worth it to pick it up in japan ie. is it cheaper there?

i might be there around the beginning of November.

jupitersolo

I think you'll pay more for it over there with the exchange rate the way it is. Plus if it needs work, Canon USA won't fix it under warranty.

moeronn

IIRC, the body warranty is international and the lens warranty is country specific. Or do I have it reversed?

jupitersolo

reversed

Dan Martin

Those look great! If I pixel peep, I can see where noise reduction was applied in the 3200 shots, but it's very nicely done. I really couldn't do a better job with Noise Ninja, so if that was all done in-camera, they've done an amazing job. I also don't see any of the banding that was evident in the previous samples, so that's a positive improvement as well.

Dan Martin

My pre-order is saying October 11th, but I'm sure it will vary by a few days from store-to-store.

Mizouse

what about hong kong?

probably should just forget about it

Dan Martin

The US is pretty much the cheapest place on Earth to buy camera gear. Buy it out of state to save the tax and you'll be ahead of the game.

Mizouse

that i get to try out the next 5D in japan when im there

jupitersolo

What do you mean we get the best prices for gear in the world.

Dan Martin

I buy 90% of my stuff south of the border because of the great price and service I get from B&H. The 50D is coming from a local store because it's only $40 more here, which is about the same as it would cost for shipping it from the US.

Canon Canada dropped the prices on a number of their products to stop as much of the importing as they can, but there are still a ton of products in the lineup that are far cheaper in the US. The last thing I brought up from the US was the 85/1.8 and the 580EX II. The combined total after shipping and tax was 40% less than I could buy it for in Toronto.

For some strange reason, my big Epson I just bought was $400 less here than it was at B&H. You win some and you lose some I guess...

waTSX

Good advice.

Mizouse, I wouldn't fool with overseas cameras just for the warranty reasons alone. I would guess you wouldn't end up saving much, if any, money at all over U.S. prices anyway.

Donte99TL

If this camera turns out to be good then I just might have to buy it. I wonder what I could sell me 40D for. Anyone know?

waTSX

If I end up getting this body, I think I'll keep the 40D. More and more I find myself wishing I had a second body a lot of the time. I never thought I'd get there, but there I am. It would be so nice to have two bodies mounted with different lenses.