Okay, so I gather that it's release is only hypothetical at this point.

Do any of you who keep up with the rumors have a good sense of whether or not it will be here this fall?

If so:
-Will it be worth the extra ~$400 over the 30D?

-Is the DIGIC III a significant improvement over the DIGIC II?

-Would you expect a significantly expanded dynamic range? (most important to me)

-I know they're counting on at least 10mp...I don't so much care about that.

-Any other substantial reasons that I shouldn't just buy a 30D today so I'll have it with me in Oregon while I hike next week??




Also, as a semi-related question, does the 30D have improved dynamic range over the Rebel XT?

Thanks for any input!!!

 

I'm going to HAVE TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought this was going to say it be released. Though I'm waiting for the 5D's replacement.

At Canon's press conference for the MKIII the VP said that this was Canon's only press conference what would be released for the first part of the year, hinting there would be something for 3rd or 4th qtr.

I would wait until they release 40D or 6D before you upgrade. I went from the 300D to the 30D, that was a jump. I think your XT is good enough.

Or I could say do it, then at the end of next week they'll announce the 40D or 6D.

 

Don't hurt me! Sorry, jupity.

Yeah, the 5D (or 6D) is out of the question any time soon. I've been spending way too much on gear as it is. If I factor in selling off my EF-S lenses & replacing them w/ EF's I just can't justify it in addition to the price of the body.

I got a call from Worker's Comp this morning, though, that they miscalculated my benefits & owe me almost exactly the cost of a new 30D + tax, shipping & a CF card. It's awfully tempting given this trip I'm taking on Sat.

So, if there's no FF in my immediate future I'm wondering if the anticipated upgrades on the 40D are worth the $400 and my not insignificant impatience.

Also, I've got 2 weddings in September that I'll be shooting (unofficially) for friends...Just sayin.

 

From what I know of the usual product announcement cycles, I doubt you'd see a 40D announcment until November at the earliest or (more likely) late January / early February at PMA time. That's assuming that there even is a bump in the works for the higher end 1.6x body.

 

I thought the same thing. I saw the thread title and thought "finally some info!"... but no!

 

If there's nothing wrong with your XT, I'd probably wait for the next generation. From the shots you have posted, you do great work with your XT and I don't know that the benefits you'd get from the 30D over the XT justify the cost at the moment. If you were looking for your first SLR or something happened to your XT, then it would be a different story.

 

This is the most recent speculation I can find. I'll be surprised if the 12/13Mp part is true...

http://www.roumazeilles.net/news/en/...canon-eos-40d/

I'm not seeing much that makes me want to wait. What I really want to know about is image quality - noise & dynamic range. Grr, it's so frustrating! I had this exact same problem about this time last year!

 

with moeron
Also, if sports or action shooting was something you liked to do, it might justify the extra cost, but since it's not really, I say wait. That is unless you find the XT's burst rate inadequate for shooting polo, etc. As to DR, I'm not sure the 30D is significantly better than the XT.

 

wait it out let people test it out 1st... my 20d is almost the exact same camera as a 30d... only has a smalled LCD but you cant see shit on either one anyway

 

I thought it was about the cam being released too, lol... hey wndrlst:

 

Thank you, moeronn. Primarily I'm looking at the 5 fps rate for shooting the horses, and at the better AF, esp w/ my 70-200. I guess that's why I'd like to know about the DR on the 30D also. It's been my biggest complaint about the switch from film to digital. Also, the 30D allows 1/3 stop increments in ISO, which would be nice on occasion, when you need a little bump, but don't want the noise of shooting at 1600.

You give food for thought, though...

 

I take it you used to shoot print film? IMO, the current generation DSLR's have met or exceeded the DR of several common transparency films, especially the likes of Fuji Velvia.

 

Ooouuuuuch.





Yep. Plain ol' Jane ol'.

 

That's a big part of it...not just for polo, but also jumpers, dressage, etc. All the horsies. Good to know about the DR.


Hmmmmmmm.



Thanks for all the input so far!

 

Another thing to consider is the compactness of the XT, especially if you're going to use it for hiking. Your XT/17-85 combo makes for a nice light rig. You'll appreciate that if you're banging out a difficult trek.

This may all be moot. It sounds to me like you're getting the 30D

 

Well, I was pretty set on it, but I'm not completely immune to sound advice.


So, what you're saying is, I should pick up the 10-22 instead??

 

Ah, one other complaint about the XT, that I was hoping would ameliorated by an upgrade...the buffer. When shooting Raws in burst mode, You only get something like 5 shots before you have to wait for it to clear. Again, with the horses, this is limiting.

That is all.

I think.

 

i want to go with a 30D, but the XTi -> 30D imo is not worth it.

all id get is what 1/3 stop increments for ISO, spot metering, and 5fps?

and isnt the metering system in the XTi the same as the 30D?

ohh and i guess a bigger viewfinder with a pentaprism instead of a penta mirror.

 

But you would also "lose" two megapixels and the self cleaning sensor. You're in a slightly different situation.

 

only reason why i would consider trading for a 30D is because the compactness of the XTi is kinda bothering me now.

 

Some pretty good photos of the 40D are here: http://pma-rumours.blogspot.com/2007/08/40d-photos.html

No specs though...

 

3" Lcd?

 

yea it looks huge

 

possible specs:

http://www.photographybay.com/2007/0...rs-version-30/

*No weather sealing*
1.6x - 10 MP Self cleaning sensor
3 inch LCD with LiveView
Formats JPG, RAW and sRAW
ISO 100 to 1600 in steps of 1/3
Shooting speed 6.25 fps
Buffer 75 JPG or 17 RAW

DIGIC3
Launch date: August 23rd”"

 

6.25 fps!?? & it can buffer 17 RAWs....sooo glad I listened to you guys. August 23 is so very close.

 

LiveView? Is that what I think it is?

 

I was thinking the same thing...I've read that speculation on a couple of sites. Frankly, I'm totally "meh" about it. I can see using it on very rare occasions, but can easily live without.

 

For general photography, I agree about it being "meh." It would come in handy for crowded areas or areas with limited vis. I'm sure the paparazzi would love it.

 

Very true. Now that you mention, I am kinda short....

 

 

+1

 

 

 

time to start saving my pennies

 

I'm sure it'll be like it is for the 1Dmark III & 20Da.
Main thing being - no autofocus.

I was shooting while biking the other day, and Liveview would have been handy for that. (ended up usng my SD800). It's a pretty meh concept, imho, without AF.
The one olympus has is actually a fairly decent compromise although I forget what the drawbacks were.

 

The ergonomics of the 20D are quite a bit nicer than the XTi.
Having two dials is really handy. Along with the extra buttons, it's very easy to change things without having to dig through the menus.

I don't think the 30D is worth it for most people though.

 

It's all rumor right now, and hard to make any sort of judgement until it's out.



I don't recall too much happening going from DIGIC to DIGIC II, so I have low expectations.


I higly doubt the former, and the answer to the latter is no.

I'd LOVE a camera with less MP but more DR. Too bad that'll never happen. (Unless I get a Fuji cam)


Hell, I have a 20D, and I still might not upgrade to the 40D.

- Frank

 

If the FinePix S5 Pro didn't use Nikon lenses, I would have jump on this when it came out. The things that this camera can do with b&w is awesome!

 

I also wouldn't assume full frame is the only path in the future... I think 1.5 variations are here to stay for a long time given the success and sales of Nikon's DX and other brands' quality digital lenses.

 

A 1.3 crop sensor from the 1D's would be nice.