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The Third Ball
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From: Los Angeles, Ca
Earth-bound misfit
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BEeeeaUTIFUL, Jupity!
Rubin, I really love the light on your subject. That's one thing I think you've got down as few others do. Especially given how much on-camera/bounced flash you use. (Was this on camera?) The foot doesn't bother me, but I feel like it's cropped a little close, especially on top by her head. On the left by her foot, too, but that doesn't bother me quite as much. Is their any more room in the frame, or is there a reason you prefer it that way?
Rubin, I really love the light on your subject. That's one thing I think you've got down as few others do. Especially given how much on-camera/bounced flash you use. (Was this on camera?) The foot doesn't bother me, but I feel like it's cropped a little close, especially on top by her head. On the left by her foot, too, but that doesn't bother me quite as much. Is their any more room in the frame, or is there a reason you prefer it that way?
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BEeeeaUTIFUL, Jupity!
Rubin, I really love the light on your subject. That's one thing I think you've got down as few others do. Especially given how much on-camera/bounced flash you use. (Was this on camera?) The foot doesn't bother me, but I feel like it's cropped a little close, especially on top by her head. On the left by her foot, too, but that doesn't bother me quite as much. Is their any more room in the frame, or is there a reason you prefer it that way?
Rubin, I really love the light on your subject. That's one thing I think you've got down as few others do. Especially given how much on-camera/bounced flash you use. (Was this on camera?) The foot doesn't bother me, but I feel like it's cropped a little close, especially on top by her head. On the left by her foot, too, but that doesn't bother me quite as much. Is their any more room in the frame, or is there a reason you prefer it that way?
Here is one with more room, followed by the original - I also adjusted the B&W process a tad to make it a bit more contrasty. What do you think?
oh yeah love both of those Jupe!
The Third Ball
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Like I said in the other thread...its not all just fine and dandy with a "hey guys sorry i was such a raging dickbag for so long, I've turned a new leaf in the last 3 days"
You want things to be different...prove it to all of us.
You want things to be different...prove it to all of us.
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From: NJ
+1 The pose suggested movement and in the tight crop she didn't have a place in which to move. This feels much more comfortable.
It's a beautiful shot.
It's a beautiful shot.
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The Third Ball
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From: Los Angeles, Ca
Shooting on railroad tracks is highly illegal.
This has become a fad (google it) that is dangerous and stupid.
Just this week a young female camera assistant lost her life on a movie set in Savannah when the production decided to illegally shoot on a trestle. They went against all union regulations, and it wasn't even a scheduled shoot date. But some idiot wanted to steal the shot and no one told them NO it wasn't safe. Well, a train came and they couldn't clear the trestle in time. She was struck by the train and killed.
She shouldn't have died, they should have never been shooting there. And there will be huge legal repercussions to those involved.
That was a big budget "professional" movie shoot.
There are countless other stories of photographers or their subjects being killed on the tracks because of a lack of general common sense.
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...n-pacific.html
I suggest you seriously heed this warning in lieu of any of your normal smart ass remarks.
This has become a fad (google it) that is dangerous and stupid.
Just this week a young female camera assistant lost her life on a movie set in Savannah when the production decided to illegally shoot on a trestle. They went against all union regulations, and it wasn't even a scheduled shoot date. But some idiot wanted to steal the shot and no one told them NO it wasn't safe. Well, a train came and they couldn't clear the trestle in time. She was struck by the train and killed.
She shouldn't have died, they should have never been shooting there. And there will be huge legal repercussions to those involved.
That was a big budget "professional" movie shoot.
There are countless other stories of photographers or their subjects being killed on the tracks because of a lack of general common sense.
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...n-pacific.html
I suggest you seriously heed this warning in lieu of any of your normal smart ass remarks.
Shooting on railroad tracks is highly illegal.
This has become a fad (google it) that is dangerous and stupid.
Just this week a young female camera assistant lost her life on a movie set in Savannah when the production decided to illegally shoot on a trestle. They went against all union regulations, and it wasn't even a scheduled shoot date. But some idiot wanted to steal the shot and no one told them NO it wasn't safe. Well, a train came and they couldn't clear the trestle in time. She was struck by the train and killed.
She shouldn't have died, they should have never been shooting there. And there will be huge legal repercussions to those involved.
That was a big budget "professional" movie shoot.
There are countless other stories of photographers or their subjects being killed on the tracks because of a lack of general common sense.
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...n-pacific.html
I suggest you seriously heed this warning in lieu of any of your normal smart ass remarks.
This has become a fad (google it) that is dangerous and stupid.
Just this week a young female camera assistant lost her life on a movie set in Savannah when the production decided to illegally shoot on a trestle. They went against all union regulations, and it wasn't even a scheduled shoot date. But some idiot wanted to steal the shot and no one told them NO it wasn't safe. Well, a train came and they couldn't clear the trestle in time. She was struck by the train and killed.
She shouldn't have died, they should have never been shooting there. And there will be huge legal repercussions to those involved.
That was a big budget "professional" movie shoot.
There are countless other stories of photographers or their subjects being killed on the tracks because of a lack of general common sense.
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...n-pacific.html
I suggest you seriously heed this warning in lieu of any of your normal smart ass remarks.
Earth-bound misfit
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I cringe when I see family shoots on active tracks. There was a big to do on one a professional wedding/portrait photography board I was a member of a couple of years ago after a subject was killed. That's not meant to dump on you, Italiano. It's just not worth it.
Must be my ugly mug. 
Must be my ugly mug.
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I'd like to offer some constructive feedback as well, so it doesn't seem like just piling on at this point.
I like the lines of the track (putting aside the risk and legalities) and the subject's position in the frame, with room for her to look into. The light on her is promising. Also, the tones and contrast on the track and subject are good.
Things that I feel would make it stronger:
-your horizon is centered, this works occasionally, but is not usually the strongest compositional option.
-The signal structure is growing out of her head. I'd like to see the shot repositioned where that isn't the case. If the background is busy everywhere, find the most homogenous and open your aperture a bit more. Or at least put yourself in a position where her head is in the hollow of the structure between the supports.
-While I appreciate the sense of isolation given by the location and her lack of contact with the camera, it would be a stronger image if I could get just a peek at her face. Whether she turns her head a bit more to the left or tucks hair behind her ear, I'd like to see some skin behind the mass of hair, so there's some connection between the viewer and the subject.
I hope that's helpful next time.
I like the lines of the track (putting aside the risk and legalities) and the subject's position in the frame, with room for her to look into. The light on her is promising. Also, the tones and contrast on the track and subject are good.
Things that I feel would make it stronger:
-your horizon is centered, this works occasionally, but is not usually the strongest compositional option.
-The signal structure is growing out of her head. I'd like to see the shot repositioned where that isn't the case. If the background is busy everywhere, find the most homogenous and open your aperture a bit more. Or at least put yourself in a position where her head is in the hollow of the structure between the supports.
-While I appreciate the sense of isolation given by the location and her lack of contact with the camera, it would be a stronger image if I could get just a peek at her face. Whether she turns her head a bit more to the left or tucks hair behind her ear, I'd like to see some skin behind the mass of hair, so there's some connection between the viewer and the subject.
I hope that's helpful next time.
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Safety Car
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From: New Berlin, WI.
A few things: The railroad owns the property ten feet on each side of the tracks. Seen to many crashes and two deaths by trains in proximity to a restaurant I owned right off the tracks.
If you ask the engineer they might let you get in the engine and you can take some superlative shots in there.
If you ask the engineer they might let you get in the engine and you can take some superlative shots in there.
Drifting
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From: North Carolina
I'd like to offer some constructive feedback as well, so it doesn't seem like just piling on at this point.
I like the lines of the track (putting aside the risk and legalities) and the subject's position in the frame, with room for her to look into. The light on her is promising. Also, the tones and contrast on the track and subject are good.
Things that I feel would make it stronger:
-your horizon is centered, this works occasionally, but is not usually the strongest compositional option.
-The signal structure is growing out of her head. I'd like to see the shot repositioned where that isn't the case. If the background is busy everywhere, find the most homogenous and open your aperture a bit more. Or at least put yourself in a position where her head is in the hollow of the structure between the supports.
-While I appreciate the sense of isolation given by the location and her lack of contact with the camera, it would be a stronger image if I could get just a peek at her face. Whether she turns her head a bit more to the left or tucks hair behind her ear, I'd like to see some skin behind the mass of hair, so there's some connection between the viewer and the subject.
I hope that's helpful next time.
I like the lines of the track (putting aside the risk and legalities) and the subject's position in the frame, with room for her to look into. The light on her is promising. Also, the tones and contrast on the track and subject are good.
Things that I feel would make it stronger:
-your horizon is centered, this works occasionally, but is not usually the strongest compositional option.
-The signal structure is growing out of her head. I'd like to see the shot repositioned where that isn't the case. If the background is busy everywhere, find the most homogenous and open your aperture a bit more. Or at least put yourself in a position where her head is in the hollow of the structure between the supports.
-While I appreciate the sense of isolation given by the location and her lack of contact with the camera, it would be a stronger image if I could get just a peek at her face. Whether she turns her head a bit more to the left or tucks hair behind her ear, I'd like to see some skin behind the mass of hair, so there's some connection between the viewer and the subject.
I hope that's helpful next time.
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I wish I had asked her to lift the hair away from her left eye just a bit more. Also, I wish I had just a bit more tree in the frame. Just one or two steps backward.
I wish I had asked her to lift the hair away from her left eye just a bit more. Also, I wish I had just a bit more tree in the frame. Just one or two steps backward.
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I cringe when I see family shoots on active tracks. There was a big to do on one a professional wedding/portrait photography board I was a member of a couple of years ago after a subject was killed. That's not meant to dump on you, Italiano. It's just not worth it.
Must be my ugly mug.
Must be my ugly mug.
Drifting
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From: North Carolina
I cringe when I see family shoots on active tracks. There was a big to do on one a professional wedding/portrait photography board I was a member of a couple of years ago after a subject was killed. That's not meant to dump on you, Italiano. It's just not worth it.
Must be my ugly mug.
Must be my ugly mug. 
These are so good..
