http://info.detnews.com/autosinsider...peek/index.cfm

 

looks photoshoped

 

It says artists rendering in the article.

 

That looks nice, but by 2006-7, who knows what else wil be out. Looks like a Mazda S2000.

 

looks nice, but I'd rather have a coupe.

 

heh, the last article i saw that in said it was the miata too boring either way, mazda has been on a roll with their last couple cars.

 

Of course they will build one. Why not? A two seat RX-8 with a turbo, should kick major ass.

 

They should bring it back. F the RX-8!!

 

 

Hot!

 

zoom zoom

 

Niiiiice!

 

Very nice.

Would love to see how the design holds up out moving from a drawing to an actual car.

If it looks close to this, I like!

 

Very nice!!!

 

I only hope they don't make it as small as an MR2 or something along those lines. Too bad the GI's didn't get to more of their women way back when ... the lack of a "height" gene causes Japanese designers to forget that there are people in the world taller than 5'6", causing some of us to miss out on some potentially nice rides.

 

front looks like an acura. rear looks like the rx-8

Looks tits

 

I agree It would suck if it was tiny like a miata, s2000 or mr2.
Something along the size of a g35 or first gen cl would be nice.

 

Nice

 

Ya think the people at Mazda believe that the storied RX-7 tradition should grace something bigger [and therefore less agile (and therefore less hardcore)] than the 4-seater RX-8?

I seriously doubt it.

With the more utilitarian RX-8 in its lineup, the new RX-7 can only get more hardcore, if anything to avoid niche cannibalism.

I fully expect the RX-7 to revert to 1st-gen and 2nd-gen roots and turn into what is basically an S2000 coupe with perhaps N/A and F/I options, with a much more wag-able tail but less of a tendency to snap-oversteer.

When Honda finally gets off its ass to introduce the S2200 Type R coupe that's been in the rumor mills for forever now, then things will turn really interesting.

 

I changed my mind, I dont care what size it is anymore. Im 5'6" and 140 lbs, I will fit inside anything

As long as it kicks a$$ they could make it mini cooper size. That would be one fast and agile car. .......

 

id pimp it

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 2nd gen RX-7 was a bigger car than the original, and the 3rd gen was bigger still. Think it may all depend on what Toyota does/doesn't do vis-a-vis the (rumoured) return of the Supra.

 

Ummm..........









Supra

 

I think there is some misunderstanding here. First, the RX-7 has grown in cost and complexity from the 1st gen to the 3rd gen, completely homologous to what happened to the Z cars. It is also the reason why the FD RX-7 got axed, so it would be safe to say that any new RX-7 will be less costly and less complex, more like the 2nd-gen and 1st gen RX-7's, also completely homologous to what the 350Z turned out to be.

The only question that is being presented here is what the RX-7 will be relative to the RX-8, which as most people should know was never intended to be direct replacement for the RX-7 (but it is a credible sports car.) It was a safer exploration of the market because it covers both "sports car" and "utility". But now that Mazda has that covered, what could the RX-7 be like?

Certainly not bigger nor more useful than the RX-8. That would 1) dilute the RX-7's image/ability as a track star and 2) create redundant vehicles in the lineup with assuredly overlapping price points.

 

And to add to what DtEW wrote:

How wWill the existance of the new RX7 affect the positioning of the MX5 (Miata)? Cos from the little we know, it looks like the RX7 will be positioned as a "super-Miata". I have no idea.

 

No Plans to Revive RX-7, Mazda Insists

Those expecting to glimpse a new rotary-powered Mazda sports car at the upcoming Tokyo Motor Show will be in for a serious disappointment, several senior Mazda officials tell TheCarConnection.com. It’s not that the automaker isn’t exploring the idea of reviving its legendary two-seater, which went out of production last year. For the moment, though, it has its corporate hands full with the new four-seat RX-8, which is just in the midst of a global launch. There’s another problem, stresses Mazda Motors Board Member Steve Odell: limited production capacity for the new Renesis rotary engine. There’s only capacity for 60,000 of the engines a year, he notes, around what Mazda hopes to need for the RX-8, and expanding production would be “quite difficult.” Translation: extremely expensive. But there is a future for the rotary, he adds. “I’m sure we’d like” to produce other rotary-powered models, including a new RX-7, “if the demand is there.” A solid hit with the new car could be the encouragement Mazda needs. —Paul A. Eisenstein

 

booo

 

Boooo! Hissssssssss!

 

they need to make an insane mazdaspeed RX8

 

Can someone explain the advantages from a rotary? From what I see in the rx-8 it makes pretty weak power/torque and gets really bad gas mileage for what it makes. Why would they even want to put more of these out in the world?

 

Well...long story, but I will keep it short...

First, rotary engines makes a lot more power and pretty good torque when you take into consideration their displacement. The engine in the RX8 (and the RX7) is about 1.3 liters large. Now, if that were a normally aspirated, internal combustion engine, it would make around 80 HP in a "base tune" and 100-130 HP, in an agressive to a "very agressive tune" state. Torque in either case would be around 80-90 lb-ft.

The engine in the RX 8 (in its more agressive tune) makes 238HP and about 160 lb-ft. So as you see, there is a lot more power/torque coming out of there. Also, if you see the torque graph, it's suprisingly flat and it lasts a lot longer than non-rotary engines do.

So if you have a small engine, then overall packaging gains. So more room for other things like passengers, etc. Less weight also. Lower center of gravity too. This RX8 car is one of the best in any category when it comes to center of gravity. The engine "sits" really low and also behind the front axle which helps with front/rear weight distribution.

Rotary engines are smoother running than non-rotary engines, especially 4 cylinder engines. That's because they rotate, not go up and down.

Yes, they consume a LOT more gasoline, but only if you compare them based on their displacement. If you compare them based on power, it aint that bad after all. The RX8 does 18-23 mpg, city-highway if I remember correctly. So that's a little worse than our CLS for a little less power.

Yes, they are known to be less reliable and they used to be terrible with emissions, but supposedly Mazda found a way to better the latter. And I am sure they have, because otherwise the gov't would not let them put this engine into mass production.

Bottom line, it's up to the buyer to decide if they like the rotary or not. I do believe that rotaries have a ton of potential which we might never see, because only Mazda is working to refine the rotary engine. As far as I know at least. If all, or most companies were puring R+D money into bettering the rotary engine, we'd see some really impressive results (from a performace standpoint at least).

Persoally? I dislike all engines that dont make good torque at low and mid range rpm, so I would never buy an RX8.

 

According to Motor Trend the Mazda execs have decided to NOT revive the RX7. So dont wait.