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Old 02-10-2007, 09:55 PM
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ehh.. Only decent Scion is still the Tc, IMO
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Toyota can become as big as they want, but they are hardly the best at appealing to small niche markets, ala mini cooper, civic si, vw gti, mazda speed 3, shelby cobra, vette z06, etc. Toyota whether its scion or not is generic. You'd think the Scion brand would be going the route of the dodge razor at this point, but its not. The interiors suck and the exteriors are saved with 18" wheels and body kits, the engines are a joke even with this new super charger. That was TC power years ago, today it means even less. Thanks Scion for super charging the xB with the Tc engine, even though the xb is pig heavier now.
yet, the scion is selling pretty well and opened up a new market for toyota.

the civic si, VW gti and mazdaspeed 3 dont do anything for image or sales of their automaker. toyota is smart and is able to realize it needs younger market, and succeeds with scion in doing what it wanted to do.
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Amazing... I didn't think it could get uglier.
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One of the things I like the most about the current xB is that you have practically a 360 view outside the windows with minimal blind spots...The D-pillar on the next gen one is pretty thick. Otherwise, when it comes out, I'll probably look at it before thinking twice about getting rid of my '05 R.S 2.0 for this one.
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The current one is cute, but this one looks just like a washing machine with wheels.... sigh...
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i can't stand centrally located instrument clusters. otherwise, i think the car looks good.

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First Drive: 2008 Scion xB
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=120544

More cubes!
By Daniel Pund, Senior Editor, Detroit
Date posted: 04-25-2007

The 2008 Scion xB reminds you of what was accomplished by the first 2004 xB, a car so shocking that the entire Scion brand still revolves around it.

Of course, it is true that the conventionally styled tC coupe now out-sells the xB. And you might remember that the company also sells a small hatch.

Since the xB hit the street as a 2004 model, Scion has gained attention for its innovative commitment to personalizing its cars with optional accessories, its no-haggle pricing, and its thriving cultlike segment of borderline-scary owners, yet this is still the company recognized because it builds that funny box car.

So when it came time to design the all-new 2008 Scion xB, there was little chance it would be anything but a box.

Thinking Inside the Bigger Box
Odd as it might seem, what you see in these pictures and will begin seeing in Scion dealerships in a week or two is an Americanized version of the box thing. This is to say, the new xB is longer, lower and wider, and it has a bigger, more powerful engine.

The car that became the original 2004 Scion xB was never designed to American tastes. It was purely a product of Japan, where space is at a premium and styles, at least to American eyes, run from cutesy to what-in-god's-name. But this box is built for America, and there is currently no version of the new xB in the Japanese market.

At 167.3 inches, the '08 xB is longer by exactly a foot than the outgoing model. The new version is 3 inches wider than the old one. It rides on a wheelbase that's 4 inches longer. Its 16-valve, DOHC, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine is the same that powers the Scion tC and the base-model Toyota Camry, and its increased displacement helps produce a maximum output of 158 horsepower, some 55 hp more than the previous motor.

If you looked only at the specifications, you'd think that the 2008 xB and Chrysler PT Cruiser were essentially the same car — a comparison that will surely make the Scion faithful cringe. But if you strip away the guerrilla-marketing programs and the thumping, bass-heavy music that always seems to accompany Scion events, the xB and the PT serve exactly the same purpose.

Of course, judging by the photographs of the Scion nation that we've seen, all xB owners flash mock gang signs at the camera whenever a picture is taken of them. We don't recall PT Cruiser owners doing any such thing.

No Toy Box
With height and width measurements that were nearly identical, the old xB upended so many basic car-design conventions that it became something of a curiosity — a toy. It was adorable to some; silly to others. And so the most telling difference between the old xB and the new one is that the new box is actually some 2 inches shorter in overall height.

There isn't any real function lost in the diminished dimension. There's 100.8 cubic feet of passenger volume compared to the 90.1 cubic feet offered by the old car, and there's still more-than-generous headroom inside for all five passengers. The new xB's greater track and width combined with its relatively modest height of 62.6 inches also help give the car some real stance on the road. Less like a toolbox on coasters and more like, you know, a real car.

The new look is a pretty accurate predictor of the way the car performs. The '08 xB feels more substantial and more stable, and it's ultimately more satisfying to drive than the previous model. It still has a relatively high center of gravity, so body roll is your constant companion. But when a corner arrives, the new xB leans smoothly and progressively as the force of physics makes its presence known, allowing you to pour the car into turns more smoothly than the somewhat tippy original.

The new xB rides on standard 205/55R16 all-season tires, so it doesn't have a huge amount of grip and will not inspire you to push the cornering limit. What you'll find, should the limit appear, is resolute understeer. If you want more grip, your friendly Scion dealer will be happy to offer you a number of optional wheel-and-tire packages that range all the way up to 19-inchers, though we suspect the nose-heavy distribution of the xB's prodigious 3,020 pounds (some 625 pounds more than before) will keep its handling dynamics from changing much.

The Power To Be Pleasant
The real revelation in the new xB is the new engine. The former 1.5-liter pea-shooter saw to it that you made some sacrifices for your funky style. In comparison, the new xB's 2.4-liter four-cylinder is thoroughly Camry-ized.

First of all, it's smooth thanks to dual counter-rotating balance shafts. And it has a broad, usable power band with a robust 162 lb-ft of torque on tap, so the xB is finally not as slow as it looks. Should you like, the Scion dealer can arrange to have a supercharger bolted on as an option, which should bring the peak power to 200 hp for a price not yet determined.

The xB's overall driving character is pleasant. Thanks to plenty of acoustic insulation, it's admirably quiet with little road or wind noise. The fairly rudimentary combination of MacPherson strut front suspension and a torsion-beam rear suspension delivers a comfortable ride that is never jarring. And the engine never strains while pulling around the xB, despite the new car's weight. The 2008 Scion xB is, in a word, more adult than its predecessor.

Checking All the Boxes
Styling and image might define Scion cars more than anything else, but value is a critical part of the equation, too. At $16,230 for an example with a five-speed manual transmission, the xB is certainly inexpensive. The optional four-speed automatic costs another $950.

And the price represents good value, too. The list of standard equipment is unexpectedly long and includes cruise control, power windows, audio controls on the steering wheel, a six-speaker sound system with both iPod-specific and standard auxiliary inputs, air-conditioning, and remote keyless entry. All xBs also come with four-wheel disc brakes (the old model had rear drums), ABS, traction control, electronic stability control, side airbags for the front seats, and curtain-type airbags for front and rear seats.

Of course, you'll also find a few obvious examples of cost-cutting on this car. Old-school plastic wheel covers on steel wheels are standard equipment and make the xB look a bit like a small commercial vehicle. The automatic transmission offers just four ratios for forward thrust instead of the five- and even six-speed automatic transmissions of some competitors. We would opt for the five-speed manual anyway, since it makes the xB feel more responsive.

Don't Forget the Bottom Line
In Scion-speak, an accessory is what other companies call options, and they are a very big deal in building Scion's reputation for personalized vehicles as well as a prime contributor to the profit picture of Scion dealers. The most important of these accessories are an upgraded stereo system, navigation system, foglights and floor mats. Most of the rest of the items — both from Scion and a select group of Scion-approved vendors — are primarily cosmetic filigree. Meanwhile, Toyota Racing Development (TRD) offers a host of performance upgrades, including wheels, suspension pieces, an exhaust system and even a limited-slip differential. Go crazy, and you could end up with a quite expensive inexpensive car.

Our only real complaint about the new xB isn't what's changed from the old car, but one of the things that remain unchanged, like the center-mounted gauge cluster, which served no real purpose when Toyota introduced it on the Echo and hasn't improved with age.

Otherwise, the new 2008 Scion xB is quite a nice and practical car. We'd certainly buy it before we would a PT Cruiser or a Chevrolet HHR. Because, let's face it, those cars are square.
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The pics were taken in Oct 2006 @ Japan.



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haha, they made it worse...
Old 05-04-2007, 10:21 PM
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TSXuck, you do realize that isn't the next generation xB right?
Old 05-05-2007, 01:49 AM
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well, i think it looks juust a tiny bit better than the current ones.
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Press release...

Scion announced today that it will be displaying its latest limited-production vehicle, the 2011 xB Release Series 8.0 (xB RS 8.0), in the Scion booth at the Los Angeles Auto Show, Nov. 17-28, 2010. The xB RS 8.0 will begin arriving in dealerships later this month.

The xB RS 8.0 comes fitted with a four-piece body kit designed by Kenstyle, including aggressive front and rear lower lips and side skirts. The xB comes painted in a vibrant color called Voodoo Blue, which is not currently available on any other Scion model. A color-keyed rear spoiler will be available as an option.

One of the most unique elements of the xB RS 8.0 is its sunroof, which features power tilt and slide function not currently available on regular xB models. The interior includes seats and door-panel trim covered in an exclusive black fabric with blue color-tuned highlights to complement the exterior. This Release Series comes equipped with unique floor mats embroidered in blue with the “xB RS 8.0” logo.

Only 2,000 units of the xB RS 8.0 will be built, and each vehicle comes with a unique, individually numbered Release Series badge illuminated in blue. The xB RS 8.0 will carry a manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) of $18,405 with a manual transmission, and $19,355 with an automatic transmission. A limited supply of the available color-matched rear spoiler will be available to xB RS 8.0 owners with a MSRP of $320, not including installation.

The delivery, processing and handling (DPH) fee for all Scion models is $720 and is not included in the MSRP. DPH fee for vehicles distributed by Southeast Toyota (SET) and Gulf States Toyota (GST) may vary.

Learn more about the xB RS 8.0 by logging on to http://www.scion.com/rsxb. Put the Voodoo Blue xB under a spell with “YouDo VooDoo” where you can click on a variety of spells to see the xB growl like an animal, grow huge, levitate and spin in the air.
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T5skkLOvg3A

Toyota plans to discontinue its iconic Scion xB box car -- and also its ill-remembered and less funky than homely sibling, the xD -- according to Ward's Auto.

Scion VP Jack Hollis told Ward's that the brand doesn't "have plans for a direct xB or xD replacement."

The Scion brand, which debuted in 2003, was aimed at drawing younger car shoppers to Toyota. To keep things fresh, part of Scion's mission statement was a "one and done" marketing approach, Hollis said. That meant Scion models were to stick around for only one generation and be replaced by fresh nameplates. The xB box and tC coupe proved too popular to abandon; both are now in their second generation.

The second-gen xB is a Drive On favorite but there's no question the redesign lost a lot of the youthful edge and fun that the slab-sided little original had.

Now is probably an appropriate time for Scion to abandon the xB and xD hatchback models. Sales of the once-popular xB -- which started a trend in "boxy cars" that has spawned rivals that include the Nissan Cube and Kia Soul -- have fallen from a high of about 61,000 in 2006 to about 17,000 in 2011.

The brand's new city car, the Scion iQ, is selling well, so that should help pick up the slack. And the hotly anticipated Scion FR-S, which is coming in May, should also help revive the brand and contribute to a more energetic image.

So far this year, sales of the xB and xD are slightly up, at 2.6% and 1.1%, respectively, but lag the industry pace and neither has broken 5,000 sales. Popularity of Nissan's Cube seems to have peaked as well, while its funky Juke hatchback has taken off. Kia has the home run in boxy cars with the Soul, which sold more than 100,000 units last year and got a nice refresh and more power for 2012.

Although Toyota doesn't plan to replace the xB and xD yet, the company has a habit of sourcing Scion models from its Japanese marque, Daihatsu. Here's hoping the subcompact Toyota Rush or Daihatsu Terios (below) is a candidate for the U.S.
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Good to hear it's dead.
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maybe they'll stop using 4 speed autos too?
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