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Old 01-06-2006, 02:18 AM
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Possible "sub-NSX" acura coupe concept revealed at Detroit auto show

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Now on to the mysterious portion of our headline. Before we share this, we can't emphasize enough that everything you are about to read is based upon a completely unsubstantiated rumor. Furthermore, if this rumor is correct, it could spoil a surprise, so you may not wish to read any further if you like surprises. We don't even know what to think of it ourselves because we're hearing about it so late and it seems a little bit too good to be true. So PLEASE treat it as such and don't be surprised if it proves to be 100% false. Anyhow, with all these disclaimers in place, we very recently heard from unnamed sources that there are plans for Acura (or possibly Honda) to surprise everyone in Detroit this year by revealing a never-before-seen concept vehicle. According to the rumor, this concept is said to be a mid-engined, V6 sports car, and though the details are sketchy, from what little we've heard, (if there are in fact plans for such a concept) we would assume that this could possibly be a concept of the rumored "sub-NSX" sports car that some of the Acura dealers have been mumbling about for a year or two. We don't know if this rumor even has a 50/50 chance of being true because it would seem odd that Acura (or Honda) would deflect attention away from their official Detroit intros, but it's not unprecedented. Of course we'd love it if such a concept were shown, but until we get some sort of other confirmation, we're playing it safe and straddling the fence on this one. We've contacted Honda representative Sage Marie and he stated that there are no such plans for Honda at the Detroit show. We also left a voicemail with Acura representative Mike Spencer, and have not heard back from him yet. We will provide updates if we learn anything else.
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I think it would be about time Honda/Acura comes out with a sports coupe!!! Just hope it is true!!!
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No kidding... my 01 CL is at 70k+ miles and 5+ years old.... Really hope the come out with something nice to replace it with.
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If it were true, think its pretty dumb that Honda would build another rwd platform that would again only be used for a sportscar rather than one that could be shared with multiple cars/crossovers.
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According to the rumor, this concept is said to be a mid-engined, V6 sports car, and though the details are sketchy, from what little we've heard, (if there are in fact plans for such a concept) we would assume that this could possibly be a concept of the rumored "sub-NSX" sports car that some of the Acura dealers have been mumbling about for a year or two.
I'll believe it when I see it....don't think it's gonna happen.
I hope I am proven wrong.
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Although a very loose rumor, I'll sticky it for now...
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Ill be there taking pictures like a
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I'm considering everything while still maintaining hope there will be a new coupe until I see a real pic
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I have no doubt Honda has something up their sleeve.
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There is something coming. Whether it shows up as a concept in Detroit or not is the real question.
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i heard in the past that they might bring back the CL nameplate for an upcoming future 2door...maybe this is it?
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i heard in the past that they might bring back the CL nameplate for an upcoming future 2door...maybe this is it?
doubt it. If anything they'd probably wanna convert to the "x" format (RSX, TSX, MDX, RDX) but then again you never know.
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So over due. We need a new coupe'! But for now, I'm happy with my CLS-6.
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interesting...guess we'll see next week
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nothing is coming.

man, there are gonna be some downhearted mofos come next week.
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Don't know why TOV even reported it, what do they want to be the first to have had the rumor if its true? They shoulda just posted up the car when information became available instead of starting something that may be nothing.
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TOV is trying to keep the rank and file in the trenches happy.
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I'm skeptical as well. I hope I'm wrong.
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I'll believe it when I see it...
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Don't know why TOV even reported it, what do they want to be the first to have had the rumor if its true? They shoulda just posted up the car when information became available instead of starting something that may be nothing.
The section of TOV is called "Rumors and News"
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IMO rumors are the worst part of automotive news. I also don't think TOV has gone out on a limb like this in recent history either.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
IMO rumors are the worst part of automotive news. I also don't think TOV has gone out on a limb like this in recent history either.
They usually don't.
If TOV thinks the RSX is a goner but Edmunds says "it'll be redesigned on the Civic platform with a larger engine" ... I'm inclined to believe TOV.

Thread title: should read 'Detroit' and not 'Detriot' !!! sigh.
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I thought I wanted a 4 seat coupe, don't think I'd want a mid engine sports car for a daily driver. I assume that probably means it would be a 2 seater?
But kinda makes sense, since most people are happy with sporty sedans, and they may sell more sport cars than coupes that are copied off a sedan, if the rumor is true anyway.
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Originally Posted by M TYPE X
They usually don't.
If TOV thinks the RSX is a goner but Edmunds says "it'll be redesigned on the Civic platform with a larger engine" ... I'm inclined to believe TOV.

Thread title: should read 'Detroit' and not 'Detriot' !!! sigh.
The dealership I go to has said that the RSX is being discontinued this year as well.
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I guess this means that Water-S found a job writing press releases for vtec.net?
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Would be sweet if they did have something up their sleeves
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Originally Posted by M TYPE X
They usually don't.
If TOV thinks the RSX is a goner but Edmunds says "it'll be redesigned on the Civic platform with a larger engine" ... I'm inclined to believe TOV.

Thread title: should read 'Detroit' and not 'Detriot' !!! sigh.
This is TOV vs themselves though. How bout it?
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Whats the point of a surprise at a HUGE auto show. The consumers at the show may be surprised, but these are really press events for getting new products into the media fast and high priority. Hiding a car from the media/detroit debut list to make it a surprise makes no sense. 2nd I don't think Acura has anything up their sleeve that could steal the show as a surprise, like a 400hp mid engine 47k rwd sportscar.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Whats the point of a surprise at a HUGE auto show. The consumers at the show may be surprised, but these are really press events for getting new products into the media fast and high priority. Hiding a car from the media/detroit debut list to make it a surprise makes no sense. 2nd I don't think Acura has anything up their sleeve that could steal the show as a surprise, like a 400hp mid engine 47k rwd sportscar.
It's the Honda way. They keep most things really hush-hush. They do the exact same thing with their motorcycles...the press never knows what Honda will unveil at the Honda Motorcycle dealer show.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Whats the point of a surprise at a HUGE auto show. The consumers at the show may be surprised, but these are really press events for getting new products into the media fast and high priority. Hiding a car from the media/detroit debut list to make it a surprise makes no sense. 2nd I don't think Acura has anything up their sleeve that could steal the show as a surprise, like a 400hp mid engine 47k rwd sportscar.
That's the whole point to hiding it. In this day and age, where the media outlets know everything about everything three months in advance (heck, even GM's super secret Camaro concept showed up a month early,) if Honda is able to bring out a car that no one outside of Honda knows about, it'll steal the show. Period.
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That's the whole point to hiding it. In this day and age, where the media outlets know everything about everything three months in advance (heck, even GM's super secret Camaro concept showed up a month early,) if Honda is able to bring out a car that no one outside of Honda knows about, it'll steal the show. Period.
Honda/Acura has always hidden their new cars from the media until a few months before the introduction... That's just the way they do it.. It really doesn't make much sense to me to debut a car that won't be available for sale for years (although the 350z did well with the early exposure).

The 2007 Infiniti G3xC will be shown in april and will probably be available later this year.

I find it funny that chrysler/chevy are showing cars that won't be available till 2009

When the New Mustang was shown, I had contemplated waiting to by it, but I needed a car in October 2002, not 2 years down the road.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
like a 400hp mid engine 47k rwd sportscar.
Yeah, that would steal the show, but we all know that conservative H/A probably isn't going to come out with a corvette competitor.... Maybe a Porsche Boxster/Cayman type car with a little over 300hp...

If they do a rwd mid engine sportscar it will sell well, but like 123456speed said, alot of us CL guys are looking for a 2+2 coupe, that we can use as a daily driver.
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Yeah, that would steal the show, but we all know that conservative H/A probably isn't going to come out with a corvette competitor.... Maybe a Porsche Boxster/Cayman type car with a little over 300hp...

If they do a rwd mid engine sportscar it will sell well, but like 123456speed said, alot of us CL guys are looking for a 2+2 coupe, that we can use as a daily driver.
Something to go up against the G35 Coupe.
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This has been a strong rumor for over a year.

In addition, Jeff has numerous sources who have turned out to be quite accurate.

Examples: Pilot, Ridgeline, SH-AWD, Civic's two level dash etc etc etc
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How long has it been since we've heard anything our of "The Oracle" anyway?

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Um, i believe its may be the RL coupe concept....that in my opinion makes more sense right now.
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I find it funny that chrysler/chevy are showing cars that won't be available till 2009
They want to gauge public demand and get the platforms and parts lined up.

If the RSX dies, the true non-lux sport coupe market dies with it. The Mustang is more 'muscle car' and the Civic Si and Scion tC are economy car pocket rockets. The Integra/RSX has been the last survivor of many cars, i.e. Probe/MX-6, 240SX, Prelude, Integra, etc
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If the RSX dies, the true non-lux sport coupe market dies with it. The Mustang is more 'muscle car' and the Civic Si and Scion tC are economy car pocket rockets. The Integra/RSX has been the last survivor of many cars, i.e. Probe/MX-6, 240SX, Prelude, Integra, etc
True, but I don't consider the RSX a coupe... it's a sport hatchback

Looks like H/A is looking for the civic si to take over the roll of the sport coupe, and hopely this will be something to fill the void created by the discontinuation of the CL... It will be moving upscale, like Acura has done with the rest of the brand...

Mid engine usually means RWD, so it'll be interesting to see what will come of this rumor...

I think I could live with a 2 seater as a daily driver, now that I've thought about it for a bit
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The RSX moved away from the third-gen Integra, which had more of a 90s coupe profile. The RSX really embraces a more blocky, shorter hatch look.

Honda is becoming more conventional with its bodystyles and its marketing. Acura will move upmarket, still being about sport, but more about luxury and exclusivity. As long as it means Acura will get a real lux coupe, then I guess it's for the better.
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