Pontiac Torrent News **GXP Edition Unveiled (page 3)**
01-05-2005, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
I checked on Acura.com before I posted and I could have sworn it said SOHC but it definently states DOHC now. Anyway, point is, Honda's 3L, 3.2L and 3.5L are all SOHC.
01-05-2005, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chef chris
Chevy...Just seems the engine tech is very low-tech.
We saw them do it with the LS2 and LS7, now they got to get on the V6s.
01-05-2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
I would agree that 185HP from 3.4L or 200HP from 3.5 or now 240HP from 3.9 is low tech. But they can get it right.
Their 3.6L which I'm fairly certain is a DOHC design with Valve timing puts out some decent numbers (255HP or so) in the STS, CTS, Lacrosse and Rendezvouz Ultra to name a few. It seems like the engines are a world apart IMO.
EDIT: I'm referring to GM in general BTW.
Their 3.6L which I'm fairly certain is a DOHC design with Valve timing puts out some decent numbers (255HP or so) in the STS, CTS, Lacrosse and Rendezvouz Ultra to name a few. It seems like the engines are a world apart IMO.
EDIT: I'm referring to GM in general BTW.
Yes, the 3.6 is a DOHC VVT engine.
01-05-2005, 05:18 PM
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The new 3.5L pushrod is a pretty decent engine. Even though it's rated at 200hp, it's supposedly decently smooth, torquey and gets excellent fuel economy. It would be fine in this truck for most of it's buyers. I'd personally think it would be even better with the 3.6L DOHC from the CTS as an upgrade option
01-05-2005, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gavriil
"Low tech" is a subjective notion. The Corvette uses leaf springs but they are so advanced, they work beautifully. The reason pushords are used at GM if for reliability, torque output and mostly low gas consumption. IT's just that the current GM pushrods need a massage (if not an overhaul). Badly.
We saw them do it with the LS2 and LS7, now they got to get on the V6s.
We saw them do it with the LS2 and LS7, now they got to get on the V6s.
01-05-2005, 09:27 PM
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Saw on Equinox sittin on twankies and it was the hotness! Very nice mini ute. The pontiac losses the altezzas, a good move by far. The problem with the VUE (redline because it looks best) is the spartan interior. Hopefully the pontiac will be available with a shit load of options. (ie homelink, xenons, navi, etc.) won't hold my breath though.
01-06-2005, 08:12 AM
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Is it just me who thinks GM interiors are getting better?
01-06-2005, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
If the nex 3.6 and 3.9 V6s are the next gen from the 3.8L I don't have any worries it'll perform beautifullly. It's easy to pick on pushrods but on some brands they fit the bill. If the Buicks and Caddys are using DOCH what's wrong with GM's less expensive brands using the pushrods?
Nothing. But keep in mind the competition which includes Honda and Toyota are using more advanced, powerful, efficient and smaller engines that get even better fuel economy.
01-06-2005, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by domn
Nothing. But keep in mind the competition which includes Honda and Toyota are using more advanced, powerful, efficient and smaller engines that get even better fuel economy.
01-06-2005, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by titan
The pushrods get great fuel economy. The unsophistcated consumer could care less about VVT or DOHC. They care about hp/torque, because it directly affects the feel of the car, and fuel consumption. And to a lesser degree, how easy it is to repair. The pushrods win, in that respect; or atleast are on par with what's found in Camrys and Accords.
01-06-2005, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by domn
Nothing. But keep in mind the competition which includes Honda and Toyota are using more advanced, powerful, efficient and smaller engines that get even better fuel economy.
Chevy Malibu - 3.5L 200hp/220 torque v6
EPA fuel economy: 22 city // 32 highway
Not the most powerful or smooth engine, but plenty for the market and 32mpg is outstanding HW fuel economy for a v6. No Honda or Toyota V6 provide better HW fuel economy.
01-06-2005, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
The GM pushrod engines get excellent fuel economy. Here's an example:
Chevy Malibu - 3.5L 200hp/220 torque v6
EPA fuel economy: 22 city // 32 highway
Not the most powerful or smooth engine, but plenty for the market and 32mpg is outstanding HW fuel economy for a v6. No Honda or Toyota V6 provide better HW fuel economy.
Chevy Malibu - 3.5L 200hp/220 torque v6
EPA fuel economy: 22 city // 32 highway
Not the most powerful or smooth engine, but plenty for the market and 32mpg is outstanding HW fuel economy for a v6. No Honda or Toyota V6 provide better HW fuel economy.
Add Nissan to that as well. IIRC, my Maxima's sticker stated 27mpg Hwy.
01-06-2005, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by domn
Hey, as the owner of a GM 3.4L pusrhod I'm not complaining. I just find it strange how GM is developing and marketing DOHC engines for their premium brands yet staying with "old" pushrod designs for Chevy and Pontiac. I mean it makes plenty of sense from the marketing and cost effectiveness side but its just not something I'd do. Its almost as if their penalizing their customers. Just my
08-23-2006, 09:44 AM
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Future Products—Pontiac - - SOurce: AUtoweek
The freshening planned for the 2008 model year has been canceled. If Pontiac gets an all-car, all-rwd lineup in the next five years, the Torrent likely would become a GMC in the 2008 model year.
01-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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2008 Pontiac Torrent GXP - - Source: http://www.automobilemag.com/
By Aaron Williams
Pontiac hopes that the GXP model makes a greater impression than the standard Torrent, which is noteworthy only for being the replacement to the lovable punching bag that was the Aztec. Outfitting the Torrent in GXP trim will get you a more powerful 3.6-liter powerplant good for 263 horsepower. Attached to a six-speed transmission, the engine provides enough juice for a decent 0-60 mph time of 6.9 seconds. The Torrent GXP also features a lowered suspension and 18” aluminum wheels.
To complete the sporty look, Pontiac has revised the front and rear fascias and added a collection of cooling inlets along the hood. Some chrome from the company parts bin, including door handles and dual exhaust tips, round out the GXP package. The Torrent GXP will be at dealerships in the fall of 2007.
Pontiac hopes that the GXP model makes a greater impression than the standard Torrent, which is noteworthy only for being the replacement to the lovable punching bag that was the Aztec. Outfitting the Torrent in GXP trim will get you a more powerful 3.6-liter powerplant good for 263 horsepower. Attached to a six-speed transmission, the engine provides enough juice for a decent 0-60 mph time of 6.9 seconds. The Torrent GXP also features a lowered suspension and 18” aluminum wheels.
To complete the sporty look, Pontiac has revised the front and rear fascias and added a collection of cooling inlets along the hood. Some chrome from the company parts bin, including door handles and dual exhaust tips, round out the GXP package. The Torrent GXP will be at dealerships in the fall of 2007.
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