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Old 02-05-2021, 09:48 AM
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Read, side & interior look ok.
The front, though
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So they got rid of their terrible CVTs only to replace it with one of the worst automatics on the market. Smart!

Maybe Honda passed along their remaining ZF 9spd contract over to them. Sorta like a lease takeover.
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So they got rid of their terrible CVTs only to replace it with one of the worst automatics on the market. Smart!

Maybe Honda passed along their remaining ZF 9spd contract over to them. Sorta like a lease takeover.
Came to post this. Will never own another ZF9 ever again. The Pilot was eliminated from contention before we even started looking just because of the ZF9.
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Same. I cannot with good conscious recommend any Honda/Acura products with that transmission. So glad that my parents have a 2015 MDX with the old 6spd vs a 2016 MDX. We recently thought about replacing our 2012 Odyssey with a newer one, and even then it'd have to be 2020+ to avoid the 9spd.
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Originally Posted by honda_nut
Same. I cannot with good conscious recommend any Honda/Acura products with that transmission. So glad that my parents have a 2015 MDX with the old 6spd vs a 2016 MDX. We recently thought about replacing our 2012 Odyssey with a newer one, and even then it'd have to be 2020+ to avoid the 9spd.
The higher trim level Oddy's have the 10 speed from 2018 and on, just FYI.
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True, though we were only looking at the EX. My dad uses his Odyssey as kinda a pickup truck substitute for running errands for our businesses. The Touring would be too nice for what we need it for and a bit pricey.
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Originally Posted by honda_nut
So they got rid of their terrible CVTs only to replace it with one of the worst automatics on the market. Smart!

Maybe Honda passed along their remaining ZF 9spd contract over to them. Sorta like a lease takeover.
Nissan likely went for expediency with their ZF9 selection...and I assume their 7AT isn’t designed for use in FWD applications. While it’s not a great transmission, I’d rather have that than the Xtronic CVT.
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Nissan likely went for expediency with their ZF9 selection...and I assume their 7AT isn’t designed for use in FWD applications. While it’s not a great transmission, I’d rather have that than the Xtronic CVT.
Probably true. Wondering if there are no other FWD compatible mass produced transmissions on the market that makes manufacturers choose this. I have no idea. I guess it doesn't matter anyways since a Nissan was never gonna find its way on to my shopping list.
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Probably true. Wondering if there are no other FWD compatible mass produced transmissions on the market that makes manufacturers choose this. I have no idea. I guess it doesn't matter anyways since a Nissan was never gonna find its way on to my shopping list.
There certainly are but who knows if they are off the shelf ones like the ZF9. All the others are probably proprietary ones custom to individual manufacturers.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Nissan likely went for expediency with their ZF9 selection...and I assume their 7AT isn’t designed for use in FWD applications. While it’s not a great transmission, I’d rather have that than the Xtronic CVT.
While the ZF 9 is panned by many, I still can't feel anything wrong in the transmission in my Pacifica which apparently happens to be ZF9. It's as smooth and buttery as I wanted it to be. Of course I don't drive like a maniac. May be FCA figured out how to nail the software in the first few years.
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While the ZF 9 is panned by many, I still can't feel anything wrong in the transmission in my Pacifica which apparently happens to be ZF9. It's as smooth and buttery as I wanted it to be. Of course I don't drive like a maniac. May be FCA figured out how to nail the software in the first few years.
I had a Cherokee (FCA product) with the ZF9 and it was garbage. Would never own again.
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2022 Infiniti QX60 Will Drop the CVT, Keep the Same V-6 (caranddriver.com)

2022 Infiniti QX60 Will Drop the CVT, Keep the Same V-6

Infiniti has released a few details about the 2022 QX60 three-row SUV.
It will have a new design and feature a nine-speed automatic transmission rather than the current model's CVT.
We'll see the new QX60 in full soon and it should go on sale later this year.
Now that its downmarket Nissan Pathfinder sibling has debuted, Infiniti is ready to talk about the new 2022 QX60 luxury three-row SUV. This new model will feature the same powertrain changes as the Pathfinder, swapping the current continuously variable transmission (CVT) for a new nine-speed automatic from supplier ZF. The QX60's version of the 3.5-liter V-6 will continue to make a bit more power than what's in the Nissan, at 295 horsepower.


These new photos of a QX60 prototype don't show off much about the new model's styling, but we did get a preview last year thanks to the QX60 Monograph concept (pictured below). This gave away much of the new QX60's exterior design, which looks far more modern and upscale than the current model that has been around since 2013, when it first arrived as the JX35.

The concept car didn't have an interior, but we expect the cabin to make a significant step ahead, too. It will likely have nicer materials, more available features, and a more up-to-date tech interface. Three rows of seats will come standard, like before, and we expect the available seating arrangements to mirror the Pathfinder's. The Nissan now offers either an eight-passenger setup with a three-place bench in the second and third rows, or a seven-passenger setup with newly available second-row captain's chairs.

Infiniti says it will release more information soon about the 2022 QX60, so look for official photos and more details to come within the next few months. It will go on sale in the U.S. later this year.
Seems like the ZF9 is making a full transition to Nissan products. Just need to put this in the Maxima to further solidify the transition.
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Originally Posted by Comfy
While the ZF 9 is panned by many, I still can't feel anything wrong in the transmission in my Pacifica which apparently happens to be ZF9. It's as smooth and buttery as I wanted it to be. Of course I don't drive like a maniac. May be FCA figured out how to nail the software in the first few years.
I've had the 16 TLX 3.5 and 17 MDX now having the 19 TLX 3.5 and 20 MDX, with none of them having any ZF9 issues. To be honest, it's a smoother tranny than the 7AT in my son's Q50S 3.7.
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https://www.netcarshow.com/nissan/20...er_rock_creek/


Just one year after the introduction of the all-new Nissan Pathfinder SUV, the new, bolder, off-road-inspired 2023 Pathfinder Rock Creek joined the Nissan lineup. Offered in four-wheel drive only, Pathfinder Rock Creek is designed for buyers seeking a higher level of fun and adventure, without compromising the family comfort and conveniences of other Pathfinder grade levels.

"The 2022 Pathfinder was all about a 'return to rugged,' and the Pathfinder Rock Creek takes that spirit even further," said Michael Colleran, senior vice president, Nissan U.S. Marketing and Sales. "From the urban jungle to the natural beauty that can be reached within minutes from the city, Pathfinder Rock Creek has both the style and hardware to create an adventure just about anywhere."

Key additions found on the Rock Creek version include:
  • Off-road tuned suspension with 5/8-inch lift
  • 18-inch beadlock-style wheels mounted with all-terrain tires
  • Tubular roof rack with up to 220-pound load capacity
  • Exclusive front fascia with dark V-motion grille and mesh insert
  • Rock Creek badging
  • Exclusive leatherette + fabric seats with Rock Creek embroidery
  • Orange contrast stitching on the seats, steering wheel, instrument panel, center console and door panels
  • Standard Intelligent Around View® Monitor with Off-Road Mode
Other standard equipment includes a tow hitch receiver and harness, 6,000-pound maximum towing capacity, 2nd row captain's chairs and LED fog lights. It will be available in six mono-tone exterior colors and four two-tone exterior combinations, complementing the aggressive exterior design.

2023 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek also offers increased available horsepower (295 hp versus 284) and torque (270 lb-ft versus 259) over the standard grades when using premium fuel, due to revised fuel mapping.

The new Rock Creek, along with the complete 2023 Pathfinder lineup, is scheduled to go on sale in late summer 2022.

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Oh no... that's ugly.
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Yeah, not a fan of this squared/boxy look they've applied to the Pathfinder & Rogue. The prior gen looked better on both.
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I love how every automaker is sending out bullshit "off road" versions of family cars. People must be beyond stupid to buy this and think they're going to do anything more than hop a curb at Target without ripping off some very important bits from underneath.

Shit, I tried to hop a curb with our Ascent and scraped the underside. Was beyond disappointed with that.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
I love how every automaker is sending out bullshit "off road" versions of family cars. People must be beyond stupid to buy this and think they're going to do anything more than hop a curb at Target without ripping off some very important bits from underneath.

Shit, I tried to hop a curb with our Ascent and scraped the underside. Was beyond disappointed with that.
Should've bought a Pilot/Ridgeline
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No thanks, ZF9 was a nonstarter for me.
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https://www.autoblog.com/2022/09/20/...d-test-review/


The 2023 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek Edition continues a rising tide of lightly off-roadified crossovers (or, in one case a minivan). We’ve already tested the likes of the Ford Explorer Timberline (and enjoyed it), the Wilderness variants of the Subaru Outback and Forester (liked those too), Honda Passport TrailSport (meh) and even the Toyota Sienna Woodland (that one had us scratching our heads a little). Now, ahead of its introduction to market, we’ve had the opportunity to test the Pathfinder Rock Creek.

Nissan isn’t arriving late to the game, however. This is not the first time it has given the Rock Creek treatment to the Pathfinder, but with the clean slate of a new generation, the 2023 model now gets its time to shine. This time around, the Rock Creek recipe seems a little more successful than what was essentially a low-effort appearance package in the past. The 2023 Pathfinder Rock Creek actually gets an off-road tuned suspension. Its slight, 0.6-inch lift helps accommodate the gloss-black, beadlock-looking 18-inch wheels wrapped in 265/60 R18 Toyo Open Country all-terrain tires. The resulting 7.7 inches of clearance is still a full inch shorter than a stock Subaru Ascent (and less than quite a few other crossovers), though at least the tires will provide better traction off pavement and the aesthetic foundation for the rest of the package.

The Rock Creek gets a tubular roof rack, which further helps ruggedize the looks while providing an extra place to store up to 220 pounds of luggage or equipment for when you need to disappear into the wilderness for a couple weeks. Up front is a fascia exclusive to this special edition, with a unique grille featuring a mesh insert in gloss black to match the wheels. LED foglights are standard, while a standard tow hitch receiver and harness are good to pull up to 6,000 pounds (an above-average amount for a three-row crossover). Of course, there’s Rock Creek badging on the exterior, with gloss-black lettering and an orange mountain logo, to let other drivers know that this isn’t a run-of-the-mill Pathfinder. All the black Rock Creek pieces and orange accents looked great against our tester’s two-tone solid grey and black paint scheme.

Surprisingly, there’s even a slight powertrain enhancement for the Rock Creek. Revised fuel mapping means the 3.5-liter V6 can make a total of 295 horsepower and 270 pound-feet of torque, up from the standard 284 hp and 259 lb-ft. Nissan says you have to use premium fuel to achieve those improved numbers, but that the vehicle will run just fine on regular gasoline. Four-wheel drive is standard along with the same drive modes as every other all-wheel-drive Pathfinder — Standard, Sport, Eco, Snow, Sand, Mud/Rut and Tow.

Inside, the Rock Creek gets leatherette-trimmed seats with cloth inserts, as well as orange Rock Creek logos embroidered into the seatbacks. They do a good job of blending support: the firmer fake leather bolsters good a job around corners while the cushy comfort of the fabric middle portion is nice on long drives. Look around and you’ll see orange contrast stitching on the seats, dash, center console, door panels and steering wheel, plus another embroidered Rock Creek emblem on the center console armrest. The second row gets standard captain’s chairs with a removable center console. The car’s 360-degree parking cameras double as an off-road monitor, automatically projecting the camera feeds on the 8-inch infotainment screen (which is the Pathfinder’s base unit — SL and up get a 9-inch unit with navigation) whenever you shift into Mud/Rut or Sand mode. All this comes at a price of $44,115, including a $1,295 destination fee. That positions the Rock Creek smack in the middle of the Pathfinder lineup, between the all-wheel-drive SV and SL trims. While we don’t particularly miss SL features like navigation, a wireless charger, wireless Apple CarPlay (wired CarPlay and Android Auto are standard across the lineup), power liftgate or traffic sign recognition, we wouldn’t mind being able to opt for additions like a heated steering wheel or a 120-volt plug. The latter in particular seems like something that would be useful on the sort of outdoor adventures this special version is supposedly intended for. And certainly some adventurers will miss the opportunity to get a panoramic sunroof as well.

The Rock Creek’s off-road-tuned suspension doesn’t do any harm in terms of ride comfort or stability, and soaks up road imperfections well. Neither is there any extra squat and dive you might get in a Toyota 4Runner. When the pavement starts to curve, the Rock Creek’s dynamics don’t fall apart — rather, they hold up surprisingly well. The chassis setup that so well manages the imperfections on the road does a fine job of managing body roll. Your passengers won’t have to dig their nails into the armrests toe stay planted in their seats.

What you do get from this off-road setup in motion is some tire roar. It’s not the kind of intrusive cascade of sound you’d get from the Subaru Forester Wilderness, which can give you the feeling of rolling down the highway in a tin can. It’s more of a flat hum that provides a sense of comfort, letting you know the knobby tread and tall sidewalls are there to help you crawl over whatever may come your way once you exit the highway and turn down a rural back road.

As for that extra power, well, we’ll take Nissan’s word for it. A boost of 11 horsepower and 11 pound-feet of torque (and only if filled with premium) doesn’t really register in terms of driving feel, but it nevertheless seems ample enough to get the vehicle’s 4,605 pounds of curb weight moving without complaint. As for fuel economy, the Rock Creek suffers slightly. At 20 miles per gallon city, 23 mpg highway and 21 combined, it’s just a midge below the SV 4WD’s 21/27/23 mpg and the SL’ 4WD’s 20/25/22 mpg.

Now, if you look closely at the photos here, you might notice some funky things — specifically uneven material surrounding the embroidery in this tester. Keep in mind, this is a pre-production version and such literal and figurative wrinkles are typically ironed out in the production line.

And, yes, while this new Rock Creek Edition has a little more functionality than the one from the last-gen Pathfinder, the looks might still be the most important part of this package. And this vehicle really delivers in that department. Even if the furthest off-road it gets is the grass parking lot at the county fair, it still looks good enough to draw admiring comments from fellow fairgoers. You can even tell them it’s more powerful than other Pathfinders … just hope they don’t ask by how much.











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Front end is so ugly.

And I don't think there is enough large font type on the rear.
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Agreed, not a fan of most of Nissan's current design language. The Pathfinder & Rogue definitely don't look as good as their curvier predecessors.
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