I understand that we have more vehicles per capita but I am being told by our DSM that tsx sales are very disapointing across the whole province. I have also been told from sales people at terrace gate Acura, Sherway Acura and Acura 2000 that TL sales are not what we as sales people were told it would be like. I was told stories of the 99 TL being sold out for a year. We recently experianced that when the Tl first arrived in Oct and Nov and the MDX has been sold out for at least 6 months. I guess I am hopeing that more media of the new RL will create some more traffic in our stores.

 

Can I get a TSX in Canada, cheap? I would love an Indigo Blue one to go with my CG. If it wasn't for the little problem of invalidating the warrenty. :'(

 

sure sales are disapointing in canada, its all relative. The fact that Canada got more per capita means that they expected to sell more . SO while Canada is not selling as much as expected, I"m not so sure that means they are selling more poorly than the US. I think its more about not selling as expected.

 

the tsx has a "built to sell price" as we are told. I think weither you buy one here or there its cheap. Plus you have the color we can't get and we aren't allowed to use the a-spec logo anymore so you have allot going for you.

 

You make a great point. Now I feel better. At least I'm not selling infinity.

 

Heated mirrors and running lights. I wouldn't mind having a 2nd TSX for my wife.

 

i would love to get my hands on the japanese version tsx with turbo charge and all-wheel drive or even better the real time racing TSX

 

I think this thread needs to be locked...

 

You are right ... we are wafflling ... let's get back to RL news guys or are we done for now?

 

Alrighty, this really isn't anything new. The redesigned RL will come at the end of 2004, most likely in the Fall, like the TL and Accord debuts.

The company has said it will fully redesign its Legend luxury sedan by the end of 2004. It will release a bigger minivan than the Odyssey around May, Honda President Takeo Fukui said in a separate interview.

Link

 

What are the chances that Acura will actually go back to the Legend name for this thing? The name change alone might bring in more sales.

Bigger minivan = oxymoron!

 

That would be pretty sweet if they could bring both the Integra and Legend names back into the lineup, but I think the chances are Kate Moss slim to none.

It's surprising that Acura hasn't stirred up much press and public interest about RL up to now.

Junkster, who loves the Legend name... classy.

 

I would so love to see the Legend name come back, I think that in itself, would boost sales. However, they aren't going to be doing that anytime soon. The article was refering to the RL as the Legend because that's what they call it in Japan.

 

Acura won't be bringing back the Legend name anytime soon. They've been making an effort to make all their cars have 2 to 3 letter names preferably with an X in there somewhere.

 

Yeah, the Integra was the last Acura model to carry a name that isn't alphanumeric.

Anyway, I can't wait until the NY auto show! The new Audi A6, Cadillac STS, Lexus GS, Infiniti M35/45 will all be there. That's plenty of new competition for the upcomng RL. From the pics of the STS I've seen so far, it's not a strong contender but it'll most likely be the best seller since it wears the Cadillac badge. The GS looks odd, IMO. The Infiniti M35/45 we've already seen wearing the Nissan badge - might be the sleeper hit.

 

Wow...Gone for 2 weeks just got back from NY...went to see the RL concept...Its NICE. Sorry can't disclose any info till they debut it at the Auto Show...so don't ask me. But get ready for the RL A-Spec.

 

Will we see RL A-spec at the show? Or did you see it? I'm not asking restricted questions, am i?
When is the opening day, by the way.

 

cmon, man, please don't be a teaser (or maybe even a fony for that matter, not accusing any one yet). tell us some "un-classified" info please!

 

Me...a phony?

 

No it will not be at the show.

 

I will trust the Oracle, since he's been pretty heads on about most of the things he says.

So if we're to see a RL A-spec, this car isn't a plush luxo-cruiser at all, now is it? Hmmm... interesting, very, very interesting.

Side q for the Oracle: Is Honda/Acura planning any special financing on any of their vehicles in the near future? Sorry, but have to ask since I'm in the market, and AHF has nothing going on anything I'm interested in right now.

Junkster, who wonders if the RL met Justin's expectations.

 

I just gotta ask, hopefully you can answer - would you say the interior is sporty/luxo like the TL or just luxo (i.e., wood veneer, no metal accents)? The "stunning interior" comment from vtec is killing me.

 

Somehow I think that Justin wasn't too impressed. It just seems that way, he just said "NICE".

 

it seems good, but not great. NICE after a paragraph of lower case letters.. well honda has had a great chance, i hope they didnt screw up. we mortals who dont have the connections will have to wait and see (unless..... justin?)

 

Ummmmm..................Isn't the auto set to open on the 7th of
April?
It 's opened on the 7th and 8th, to the PRESS. Then the 9th to the 18th, to the public. Isn't Jason considered a "PRESS" person? Isn't today the 31st of March?
Hey, just asking.
Sounds FISHY to me.

 

Acura should have a teaser like Infiniti has on its web site. At least that would provide a little show to go with with Justion's words.

Biker, whose short list of a potential future car looks like gocubsgo55's.

2005/6 Infiniti M35, Lexus GS300 (will not be 330), BMW535 (fading fast), BMW 335 (if big enough), Cadilac CTS (also fading), Infiniti G35 (if the new interior is OK), TSX.

 

BTW, if you do a search for RL at this site:

http://www.wieck.com/public/index.html

There might be some pictures posted right around the time of the debut in NY (maybe even earlier). The new GS pictures showed up the same day as its debut in Detroit.

Lots of good TL and TSX pictures in there as well.

 

There are no current plans to offer special rates on the Acuras but it can change any moment so I will keep you updated.

 

I didn't see the interior of the car, it was up on a platform/stage.

I read what was written in vtec.net and some of the features listed are incorrect and they do not have features listed that will be in the RL.

 

So it'll be like the TL concept, no interior?

 

Since I never got inside the car and weren't allowed within 20ft of it I can't say if I was totally impressed or not. From the outside it blends the TSX and TL into one.

 

Being the RL will be close to 50K Im not going to be impressed till all the details are released and I get to drive it first.

 

Read the post again buddy...I said I was in NY to see the RL, I didn't say I saw it at the convention center.

RL A-Spec will not come with a body kit. It's 1,500.00 less than the TL A-Spec.

 

Am I reading that right...tThe RL A-spec will cost less than the TL A-spec?!

 

I think what he meant that the RL's A-Spec package will cost $1,500 less than the TL's A-Spec package, because of the lack of a skirt package for the RL?

So when again can you give us some more solid info Justin? Did you take any pics BTW that you plan to share with us before everyone else gets a look?

 

vtecura (sweet name BTW) Justin is an Acura dealer who is known for getting some inside information beforehand. If he says he saw it, then yes he saw it.

Now hopefully he took some pics that he can prematurely share with us.

Justin, one more question, AWD yes or no?

 

Ah, thanks domn, I knew I was misreading that somehow.

As for AWD, this is from the carconnection.com:

Acura RL And Lincoln Sedan To Offer All-Wheel-Drive

The redesigned Acura RL, which debuts later this year, and a new front-drive Lincoln sedan due to hit showrooms next year will offer all-wheel-drive as an option, according to executives familiar with the product plans. As horsepower increases in front-drive sedans, engineers are telling their masters at the OEMs that torque steer is reaching the outer limits of desirability. The answer: offer all-wheel drive in at least the upmarket models with the most powerful engines. Honda and Acura offer AWD in their SUVs, such as the Pilot, MDX, and Element. The RL would be the first Honda passenger car to offer power to all four wheels. Likewise, the Lincoln sedan, based on the shared platform and architecture of the Mazda6, which also shared by the forthcoming Ford Futura, the next Lincoln Aviator and a Mercury sedan, will offer an all-wheel drive option. Ford believes that AWD will be an increasingly popular option on sedans, and is also offering the system, developed by Volvo, on the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego. -Jim Burt

 

Thanks domn.

Bytheway, I have this nagging feelin deeep inside that
tells me, somehow, we are gonna be in for a big surprise
from Acura. And I'm not talking, designwise. We all know
that it's gonna look like the TL and TSX. It's the powertrain.

Everybody is expecting a V6, 300hp, with AWD. This nagging
feeling tells me that Acura is gonna drop a............................
are you guys ready?............................................ ..................
V8, with more than 300hp in the RL.

It's just that Honda is so tight-lipped about this car, that gives me this feeling.

 

I've waited for the new RL for a few years now - a few more days won't matter.
We;ll find out the exact information in less than a week.

 

I can understand your rationale, but I find this highly unlikely. Honda has made it abundantly clear that unless they can build a V8 with V6 fuel efficiency, they're not going to put it in a production vehicle. If nothing else, a more likely powertrain addition would be IMA to a 3.5L V6. That would give V8 power with V6 fuel efficiency.