TheMegalodon

Hey guys,

Could any of you (especially Biker and F23A4) tell me where you are finding these sales numbers?
I would like to use them as data in an assignment I'm working on for one of my marketing courses; however, I have to provide a source and not simply numbers that could be made up for all my prof knows.

Thanks for any quick replies and links to sites.

TSX69

Every manufacturer posts their monthly sales on their sites around the 1st of the month. Such as:

www.hondanews.com

www.acuranews.com

www.nissannews.com

http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/default.aspx

Afterwards, car news sites such as leftlanenews.com & even regular news sites such as Yahoo will post comparison articles.

Hope this helps.

biker

Well you could do as was suggested ^^ but I'm lazy and don't feel like re-inventing the wheel. I just go to the Car Chat section of clublexus (http://www.clublexus.com/forums/car-chat-139/) and copy the info from the monthly sales thread (it's stickied at the top) - it's well done and has all the originating info links.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

For me, I use www.autospies.com to get sales data.

F23A4

Just run your mouse pointer over the sales figures in my post (#179).

Edward'TLS

"Automotive News" is the official site for all automobile production, inventory, and sales data in North America. It is widely subscribed by almost all dealerships and automobile-related retailers.

biker

From our friends over at ClubLexus: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/car-...ml#post4570693

Sub-entry level
TSX-2466
S40-645
C30-379

Entry Level
C class-4842
ES-4125
G37-3865
TL-3375
CTS-2914
IS-2913
MKS-1321
S60-591

Mid Level
MKZ-2988
E class-2275
DTS-1520
S80- 1088
M 35/45- 658
STS-637
GS-516
RL- 169

Flagship
S-class- 895
LS- 830

Coupe/Convert
G37- 980
CLK- 863
C70- 547
SL- 359
SLK-322
SC-93
CL- 82
XLR-69

SUV Small
GLK- 1759
RDX- 1004
XC60- 896
EX- 540

SUV Midsize
RX-7462
Enclave-4103
MDX-2455
M Class- 2021
MKX- 1908
FX-847
XC90- 840
GX-668
SRX-541



SUV Large
Esclade-2346
GL- 1227
Navigator- 790
QX56- 586
LX-315

Bdog

More TL's than CTS's... interesting.

JD23

I wonder if the first G37 figure includes the coupe. If not, the G37 had a massive jump in sales over April.

iTimmy

no 3 series?

JD23

I just checked and the G37 sedan only had sales of 2,885 last month, not 3,865.

Josh99CL

It looks like Lincolns advertising is paying off.

LuvMyTSX

Lexus RX is still way out in front. I guess BMW didn't have the figures ready yet.

phile

look at the Buick Enclave numbers, second only to the Lexus.

mrmako

Volvo is holding their own. And will get better once the new S60 comes out.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

My dad works part-time at the local Lincoln dealer for fun (he got bored being fully retired) and he says things have really picked up lately. He also said they have been selling Navigator's left and right. I wonder if those customers have been watching gas prices the last 3-4 weeks or so...

Legend2TL

And the RX is over 11/1 sales ratio compared to the Lexus GX. Never could figure out the GX, sorta like the IS of the Lexus SUV family.

Legend2TL

It's over on that link, had to look for it.

3 series 8621
5 series 3904

Moog-Type-S

suprised at the GLK sales lead

phile

^ GLK has been going strong since its debut. It's a good way to get a brand new 3-pointed star emblem. It's actually cheaper than the RDX with tech package if you don't get all fancy with the options, and that's far from it being a stripper.

SSFTSX

Most interesting is Nissan Maxima. 6000. much more than Infintit G and Acura TL.

Audi Q5 at 1400. Pretty close to GLK which is a cheaper vehicle.
http://sev.prnewswire.com/auto/20090...2062009-1.html

biker

No, they're watching Obama outlaw such vehicles and are getting them while they can.

Moog-Type-S

http://www.leftlanenews.com/vw-repor...tml#more-18816

biker

^ as the article mentions their sales numbers would have been inline with everyone else but for the new car subsidy program. And the sales may have been good but it is of low end models such as the Polo.

TSX69

http://hondanews.com/categories/1097/releases/5057

07/01/2009 - TORRANCE, Calif. -

American Honda Motor Co., Inc., posted June vehicle sales of 100,420, a decline of 32.4 percent compared to June 2008 results*. American Honda year-to-date sales of 530,778 represent a 33.1 percent decrease.

Sales of Honda's Odyssey and Pilot light truck models showed gains of 11.8 percent and 7.7 percent respectively. Honda total car sales decreased 43.8 percent to 52,662 and Honda light truck sales decreased 5.6 percent to 39,478. Honda Division posted June sales of 92,140, a decline of 32.0 percent versus June 2008.

"We're seeing signs of strength in our light truck segments with solid gains for Honda's Odyssey and Pilot models this month," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda. "American families clearly still have a need for the value and versatility that Honda vehicles have to offer."

The Acura Division posted June 2009 sales of 8,280, a decrease of 36.2 percent compared to June 2008.

*The daily selling rate is calculated with 25 days for June 2009 and 24 days for June 2008. The year-to-date daily selling rate is calculated with 152 days for 2009 and 153 days for 2008. All percentages represent the daily selling rate.

SSFTSX

Well Audi has surpassed Infiniti in vehicles number and is with in 700 of Acura. and with in coming Audi diesels/S4. I am sure it is going to surpass Acura. In revenues it is already bigger than Acura.



http://sev.prnewswire.com/auto/20090...1072009-1.html

Audi Expects a 9.1% Share of June U.S. Imported Luxury Vehicle Sales

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

What happened to your beloved TSX there?

biker

^ hmmm.... that is interesting indeed, what happened?

TSX69

The 2009 TSX production stopped a while ago thus limiting availability because the 2010 is about to be launched (including the v6). Same goes for the RL but I doubt that we will see as much of an upswing in sales as we will w/ the TSX.

Last month had some interesting things happen: the relatively new Corolla is taking a beating this year(not sure why), the new Maxima is doing very well & Ford is back on the rise.

biker

Yeah - forgot about the MY changeover for the TSX.

The TDI numbers are pretty incredible for the Jetta, especially for the wagon. Honda would have done well to intro a diesel TSX or Accord or even a CR-V.

Will Y.

That's a stupid analysis to make, based on a single month of data, particularly given the 51,082 vehicles sold by Acura this year as against the 37,845 sold by Audi.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Ah, thanks for the info! That makes sense now. While the Maxima is still doing very well, but compared to May 2009, it fell down by around 1500 units I believe (6000 vs 4500). Any reason for that?

SSFTSX

You already proved my point. 38k Audis brings more revenue than 50K Acuras.

Will Y.

What "point?" Your supposition based on one month of sales is badly and obviously contradicted by the six month pattern of sales: Audi is getting schooled- still.
Your unsupported assertion about "more revenue" has no link or basis-- the only information for the past couple of years shows that VW (with Audi and Seat) has generated much lower profit for its revenues than Honda (with Acura) for the past 2 years-- http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu.../19/index.html.

You also posted unsupported assertions about VW's profits, without any supporting basis in that thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/honda-sales-marketing-financial-news-693944/.
Based on that, it seems everything you post comparing Honda/Acura to VW/Audi will be or unsupportable.

Have fun posting on AZ and enjoy your TSX (even though it's no Audi).

SSFTSX

Let me give u Q1 2009 numbers. Toyota had $36B of revenue.




VW had $33.5b based on averae exchange rate.



Honda is now half the size of VW group based on Q1.



THink over Q2 2009. VW is the only manufacturer that is increasing sales. Toyota/Honda is facing 40% revenue decline and 30% Volume decline across the world.

majin ssj eric

I think Hyundai is in the black this year as well....

SSFTSX

26% sales revenue decline with $114m profit in first quarter. I highly doubt it will be in black for the second quarter or the year.


27% down for June. I doubt globally it will move up.
http://www.reuters.com/article/econo...52563820090701
TABLE-Hyundai June U.S. vehicle sales off adj. 27.2 pct

Will Y.

So you have absolutely no support or numbers for your assertions about Audi or Acura revenue!

Based on your latest post and the links' absence of reference to Audi or Acura, yes, your assertions are and you are talking out of your ass about Audi/Acura revenue.

Keep polishing that crystal ball with your printouts of industry extrapolations based on a single quarter's performance which counterpoints years of data...

SSFTSX

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...08-707457.html
UPDATE: Audi Bucks Trend In June With 1.3% Rise In Car Sales
FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--Audi AG (NSU.XE) said Wednesday that it recorded a 1.3% sales rise on the year in June to around 91,200 cars, bucking the industry trend of contracting demand for luxury vehicles amid the economic downturn.

"We will finish on target - achieving our sales forecast of 900,000 cars in 2009," Audi executive board member Peter Schwarzenbauer said in a statement, adding that the company's current order intake confirms its outlook for the full year.

Audi, the premium brand of Volkswagen AG (VOW.XE), Europe's largest automaker by sales, posted a 9.7% sales decline to around 466,000 cars in the first six months of the year.

"Since April we see that sales are stabilizing. The trough of the crisis is reached," Schwarzenbauer told reporters during a telephone conference.

He said Audi may return to its record sales level of 1 million cars reached in 2008 in two or three years' time, with annual sales of the upcoming small A1 model accounting for around 80,000 vehicles.

Demand for cars deteriorated sharply toward the end of last year as credit markets turned sour and consumer confidence waned amid the financial crisis. Additionally, luxury car makers received less support than mass market manufacturers from government-backed incentive schemes to trade in old cars as these programs mainly fostered sales of smaller vehicles.

On Tuesday, German rival BMW AG (BMW.XE) posted a 13% sales decrease for its core brand last month to 105,220 cars. This translates into a 19% sales decline to 513,591 vehicles in the first half of the year.

The world's second-largest manufacturer of premium cars after BMW, Daimler AG's (DAI) Mercedes-Benz brand, experienced a 5.4% fall in sales in June compared with the same month last year to 100,300 cars. Mercedes-Benz's sales in the January-to-June period were down 19% compared with last year at 483,300 cars. BMW and Mercedes-Benz both noted, however, that markets appear to be stabilizing as the pace of the downturn is slowing.

Audi in recent months narrowed the sales gap with its two German peers, mainly due to the launch of important new or revamped models, along with a favorable regional sales mix, including a relatively small presence in the shrinking U.S. market and a large presence in the growing Chinese market.

Among the key models driving Audi's sales are the new-generation of its best-selling A4, the new Q5 small sports-utility-vehicle and the new A5 coupe.

Schwarzenbauer said Audi's U.S. sales are expected to fall around 10% on the year in 2009, compared with a slump in the overall market of around 30%. He said Audi plans to launch a hybrid version of the Q5 in the U.S. at the end of 2010.

In 2008, the Ingolstadt-based automaker fell short of its initial expectations with 87,760 cars sold in the U.S. In the first six months of 2009, Audi's U.S. sales were down 16% on the year at 37,845 cars.

BMW and Mercedes-Benz both sell about three times as many cars in the U.S. per year and were thus hit significantly harder by the dramatic market downturn and eroding residual values.

Company Web site: www.audi.de

-By Christoph Rauwald, Dow Jones Newswires; +49 69 29 725 512; christoph.rauwald@dowjones.com

TMQ

Audi's products look good - A4 sedan/avant, A5/S5, and Q5. If one needs AWD, it's well worth checking out.