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Old 05-01-2003, 10:45 PM
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Mercedes-Benz: E-Class News

CHeck THIS OUT!

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THe source also says that if you push for a 2004 model, dealers will budge. There are also side deals cut for extremely unhappy customers (hehehe...I can pretend being that for a couple of extra options on a 2004 car).
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The source also adds that:

"there is another letter, offering customers the choice of a $3200 voucher, good towards the purchase of their next Benz."
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WOW....the powers that be over at mercedes cant even nearly be happy about this.....i would prob take the 2k though cause your actualy making $375 in the deal...use the money and get some mods
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I would have to go for a brand new Benz, but wow, that sux ass for the company. Probably means another round of layoffs.
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this navigation shit has been why my mom hasnt ordered an E500 yet, had it all been fine we woulda had one in january. o yeah, and this seems like a good job by mercedes to cover their asses. its a good deal for the customers and eventhough the company may suffer some it proves that mercedes cares about customer satisfaction.

PS: dad's 4th on the list for an E55.....cant wait til they start churning them out
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Originally posted by ItalianStallion

PS: dad's 4th on the list for an E55.....cant wait til they start churning them out
O, there not actualy makeing them yet....didnt know that....when do you expect it?
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Old 05-04-2003, 04:03 PM
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the dealer's expecting the first few in June/July, so im hopin for August/September, but that depends on the alotment.
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MB offers customer a brand new car because they f-d up the navigation system a little, while Acura won't even recall the CL because of a MAJOR problem like the tranny!! I guess you do get what you pay for! Acura will never be able to gain entry in to the true luxury world of MB, BMW etc. due to issues like this IMO.
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New Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Estate





No official information has been released, but we do know that the 4MATIC model does 62mph from standstill in 6.0 seconds and creates 469bhp and 516 lbs ft from its 5.5-litre V8 powerplant.

The dynamically elegant Estate version completes the new Mercedes-Benz E-Class model range. Scheduled for launch in March 2003, following the successful launch of the Saloon version in spring 2002, the new Estate will build on the success of the previous model which has sold over 266,000 units since 1996, making it one of the best-selling cars in the estate class.

Like the Saloon before it, the new E-Class Estate represents technological exclusivity at the highest level. The standard specification for the Estate reads like a list of major milestones in automotive technology: Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC™) - the electrohydraulic brake system which now incorporates convenience functions such as Tailback Assist and Anti-stall Assist - as well as load-adaptive self-levelling rear suspension, adaptive front airbags, two-stage belt force limiters and large windowbags, to name just a handful of the 20-plus innovations that form part of the standard package.

Optional equipment available for the new Estate includes further high-tech systems such as AIRMATIC DC air suspension, COMAND control and display system with DVD player, THERMOTRONIC four-zone climate control and the dynamic multicontour seat which automatically adapts to the current driving situation.

Among the highlights making their debut in the new E-Class Estate are the bi-xenon headlamps with Active Light System - which follow the movements of the steering wheel and thus substantially enhance the driver's range of vision when cornering - as well as the new EASY-PACK tailgate, complete with hydraulic drive system for easy opening and closing at the touch of a button.




Pretty old news, but I hadn't seen pics b4.
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ok, i just read the very beginning and theres no way this 469hp beast does 0-62 slower than a Z. despite the weight, this thing hauls ass and thats def not a right sounding number.
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Originally posted by ItalianStallion
ok, i just read the very beginning and theres no way this 469hp beast does 0-62 slower than a Z. despite the weight, this thing hauls ass and thats def not a right sounding number.
yeah, with that much hp, and torque, that number is way too conservative.
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it's a freakin station wagon!!!!!!!! :wow:
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my friend ordered an E500 Estate for his wife...even that's a fast wagon!
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can 4matic and the extra body weight really slow the car down that much????
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god damn, that is a hot wagon...
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I'd get that over ANY SUV....
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naw i'd rather get the Hemi Magnum
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Originally posted by danny25
yeah, with that much hp, and torque, that number is way too conservative.
it must be very heavy.
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umm..... isn't the styling of that from the last E class??????
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i don't like it, imo audi/bmw wagons have a nice sharp look to them but mercedes has these round loafy wagons that don't look sporting at all.
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Originally posted by paper1122
umm..... isn't the styling of that from the last E class??????
The rear looks a little dated, but that's definitely the new E55 front end.
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I think Audi has the best looking wagons..
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Autospies reports that the E350 will be available "midway in the 2005 model year" and that the car will "out perform the current G35 sedan".

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Autospies reports that the E350 will be available "midway in the 2005 model year" and that the car will "out perform the current G35 sedan".

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I hope so with a base price $18k more than the G35
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I can't imagine there's two many people cross shopping the G35 with the E320.
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Interesting. My mother is in the market for a E Class Benz, I might tell her to hold off until next year.
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Autospies reports that the E350 will be available "midway in the 2005 model year" and that the car will "out perform the current G35 sedan".

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Hehehe... MB's concerned about the G35. They'd better be worred about the M35/45
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DaimlerChrysler AG has registered the name:

E 65 for the USA and Germany.
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These names from MB are blowing my mind.
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These names from MB are blowing my mind.
Yeap! The outmost example was the 69 denotation. Sowe'll see 7 liter blown engines from them? Man!
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Yeap! The outmost example was the 69 denotation. Sowe'll see 7 liter blown engines from them? Man!
It's gonna be insane... crazy man. Crazy
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More output, higher torque, lower fuel consumption: New V6 engine for the Mercedes-Benz E-Class - - Posted by: kak on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - - Source: kak.net

Output, torque, fuel consumption, comfort and exhaust emissions - these were the task areas - all of them equally important - during the development of the V6 engine in the new E 350. The up-to-date six-cylinder unit sets standards in each of these disciplines, offering technical innovations which do not constitute individual solutions but have a positive effect on various aspects. Mercedes engineers already created important conditions for exemplary perform-ance characteristics with four-valve technology and the four overhead camshafts, but this was not enough in itself.

They also developed a system which enables the interaction of the 24 valves to be controlled according to need - depending on the engine load - and which ensures a split-second gas exchange in the cylinders: continuously variable camshaft adjustment. This means that the angles of both the intake and exhaust camshafts can be continuously varied by 40 degrees to make sure that the valves open and close at the most favourable point in any driving situation.

- Fuel consumption lowered by up to six percent despite more output
- Powerful torque of 350 Nm between 2400 and 5000 rpm

At low engine loads this technology is used to direct exhaust gases back to the intake manifold from the combustion chamber. To achieve this, the camshafts are controlled in such a way that the exhaust valves remain open for a short time while the intake valves are opening. During this brief period a portion of the exhaust gases is able to escape from the exhaust to the intake duct, assisted by the vacuum pressure in the intake manifold. This valve overlap when venting the used gases and taking in the fresh mixture enables an efficient internal exhaust gas recirculation process to take place. This reduces the energy losses during load changes in the cylinders - resulting in a significantly lower fuel consumption.

At higher engine loads the camshaft adjustment is used to optimise the valve overlap as a function of the engine speed in such a way that the combustion chambers are optimally supplied with fresh mixture - thus ensuring a high output and torque.

The camshafts are controlled by electrohydraulically operated vanetype actuators. These are located at the front ends of the camshafts and are controlled by four integral hydraulic valves. The intake camshafts are driven by a duplex chain, while the exhaust camshafts are driven directly by the intake camshafts via a pair of gears. In addition to the four-fold, variable camshaft adjustment system, a number of other features contribute to the exemplary performance characteristics of the V6 engine:

- Flow-optimised intake ducts with innovative tumble flaps for the best possible throughput
- Specially developed valves with a shaft diameter of only six millimetres, which only slightly disturb the flow in the intake duct
- Compact combustion chambers for high compression (10.7:1) and good volumetric efficiency
- The newly developed, two-stage variable intake manifold.

The developers of the V6 devoted great attention to all measures which would contribute to the best possible aspiration of the engine. Powerful computer programmes assisted with the flow calculations, helping for instance to optimise the intake air flow from the dual-flow air filter, where the lines come together at the hot-film air flow sensor (HFM). For an efficient airflow, its housing is oval in shape and accommodates an electrically heated sensor which determines the intake air mass and provides the engine computer with important information for the composition of the fuel/air mixture.

The intake module is produced in well-proven magnesium and allows the air intake to be varied according to the load conditions and engine speed. The length of the intake ducts leading to the cylinders is altered by means of flaps: at high engine speeds - from approx. 3500 rpm - the flaps are open and the air flows into the combustion chambers over a short distance, producing a high output. At low engine speeds the flaps are closed to increase the length of the intake duct. This produces pressure waves which support the intake process and significantly improve the torque yield in the lower engine speed range. 305 Newton metres of torque - 87 percent of the maximum - is already available from 1500 rpm.

Turbulent airflow: tumble-flaps in the intake ducts

The special feature of the intake manifold in the Mercedes six-cylinder engine is the electropneumatically driven flaps at the end of each intake duct. These make a considerable contribution to fuel economy. Mercedes engineers refer to these as tumble-flaps, which describes their function: they literally cause the fuel/air mixture to tumble, thereby increasing the turbulence of the airflow and allowing it to reach the combustion chambers at a higher speed for more even distribution. The result is more efficient and complete combustion.

Under partial load the tumble-flaps swivel up, optimise the airflow and thereby increase the speed of combustion - an advantage which is particularly noticeable in view of the leaner mixture caused by exhaust gas recirculation and which reduces the fuel consumption. The tumble flaps are not required under higher engine loads, therefore they are fully recessed into the intake manifold and do not disturb the intake process. This situation-related control of the tumble-flaps is based on a prestored, logic-controlled microcomputer program.

Thanks to the tumble-flaps in the intake ducts, the fuel consumption of the V6 engine can be reduced by up to 0.2 litres per 100 kilometres depending on the engine speed - while improving smoothness at the same time.

Combustion of the fuel/air mixture is via a direct coil ignition system. The spark plugs project into the cylinders from a central position between the four valves, with the ignition coils arranged immediately above them.

The tumble-flaps, fuel injection, ignition and numerous other engine functions are controlled by the Bosch ME 9.7 engine management system, which communicates and exchanges information with the other onboard electronic control units via a databus. In the interests of short electrical paths, the engine management unit is centrally located above the intake system and integrated into the engine design.

The microprocessor in the control unit continuously diagnoses all engine functions. This includes monitoring of the catalytic converters and ignition system, electrical checks on the purge valve and controlling the lambda sensors. Should one these major emission control systems develop a fault, the warning "Check Engine" appears in the instrument cluster display. The data are stored in memory at the same time, allowing service technicians to identify the cause at once and remedy the fault.

Mercedes engineers have made a further contribution to fuel economy with an in-telligent heat management system. For example, circulation of the coolant is prevented during the warm-up phase so that the engine reaches its normal operating temperature more rapidly. This leads to an improved oil flow and therefore significantly less friction within the engine. Exhaust emissions are also reduced as a result. Even when the engine is warm and under full load, the heat flows are controlled to ensure that the engine oil and coolant are always at their ideal temperature. This is done by a new, logic-controlled thermostat which is active under all operating conditions.

Progress in figures: more driving pleasure, lower fuel consumption

A comparison between the new E 350 and the previous E 320 shows the positive effects of the new technology in the V6 engine on performance and fuel consumption:

- Acceleration from 0 -100 km/h: The E 350 Saloon takes 6.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h from standstill, which is 0.8 seconds faster than its predecessor. The acceleration time for the Estate is 1.4 seconds shorter than for its predecessor, at 7.1 seconds.
- Flexibility: The new E 350 Saloon absolves an intermediate sprint from 60 to 120 km/h in 6.9 seconds, and is therefore 1.7 faster than the E 320. The Estate takes 7.2 seconds, which is 2.2 seconds less than the preceding model.
- Maximum speed: The maximum speed of the Saloon is increased from 245 to 250 km/h, and that of the Estate from 233 to 250 km/h (electronically limited).
- Fuel consumption: Despite the 21 percent higher output of the new V6 engine, the fuel consumption of the Saloon is reduced by 0.2 to 9.7 litres per 100 kilometres compared to the E 320 (NEDC combined consumption). For the Estate the fuel saving is 0.7 litres per 100 kilometres.

E 350

Cylinder arrangement V6
Valves per cylinder 4
Displacement 3498 cc
Compression ratio 10.7 : 1
Output 200 kW/272 hp at 6000 rpm
Max. torque 350 Nm at 2400-5000 rpm
0-100 km/h 6.9 s (7.1 s)
Maximum speed 250 km/h*
NEDC combined consumption 9.7 l/100 km (9.9 l/100 km)

*Electronically limited

Lightweight construction: aluminium crankcase and cylinder head

The cylinder head and crankcase of the new V6 engine are of aluminium. The pistons, connecting rods and cylinder liners also reflect the latest design principles, which not only contribute to weight reduction but also have a noticeably positive effect in terms of responsiveness and smooth running. The lower the moving masses in the crankcase, the lower the vibrations and the more agile the engine's response to movements of the accelerator.

The pistons are made of iron-coated aluminium. Taking the valve angle (28.5 degrees) into account, their crowns are shaped to provide a favourable combustion chamber.

- Mercedes engineers have reduced the weight of the forged steel connecting rods by around 20 percent compared to other V6 engines, thereby making a major contribution to the refined running characteristics of the new six-cylinder unit.
- The cylinder liners feature low-friction surfaces in aluminium-silicon technology, a system which has proved successful in other car engines by Mercedes-Benz. Other advantages include high dimensional stability, exemplary thermal characteristics and low weight. The weight saving compared to conventional cast-iron liners is approx. 500 grams per cylinder.
- The forged crankshaft is fitted with four counterweights. Four wide crank-shaft bearings with transverse reinforcements attached to the crankcase likewise ensure that vibrations are reduced.
- A balancer shaft between the two banks of cylinders compensates the free vibrations that are inherent to a V6 engine and ensures exemplary smoothness. It counter-rotates with the crankshaft at the same speed.

Audible comfort: noise reduction and sound engineering

In addition to exemplary output and torque characteristics, a favourable fuel consumption and smooth running, the new V6 engine offers audible progress. Where noise comfort is concerned, Mercedes engineers have devoted a great deal of technical effort towards the engine's acoustics, assessing the volume and frequency of the noise emitted by practically each one of the approx. 210 individual components in the engine - from the crankcase to the engine mountings, and from the pistons to the injection nozzles.

Their aim was to achieve a pleasant noise background in any driving situation. To make this possible they not only measured the absolute noise values, but also eliminated sources of acoustic disturbance which are not particularly loud in themselves, but can become unpleasantly obtrusive with specific frequencies during load or engine speed changes - and which worsen the subjective impression of noise. The air intake system is a good example: as a result of the analyses carried out with the latest measuring techniques, the intake ducts are made from woven Nylon. In contrast to the smooth plastic used previously, this material has a sound-absorbing effect and significantly reduces the intake noise.

The subject of noise engineering is increasingly becoming a major task of engine developers, especially since engineers are called upon to resolve the conflict of aims between a low level of drive-by noise and a pleasant, throaty exhaust note. In the case of the new six-cylinder engine the specialists followed a concept of reducing noise while designing the sound. Various measures were therefore adopted to reduce engine noise - from a twin-cartridge air filter with integral resonators to a sound-absorbing mat beneath the bonnet. At the same time the specialists went to work on producing a sonorous six-cylinder sound by emphasising certain pleasant frequencies - especially by specific configuration of the twin-pipe exhaust system.

Two-stage concept: emission control in the engine and by catalytic converters

The emission control concept has a two-stage structure. It is based firstly on sophisticated in-engine features which ensure a low level of untreated emissions, and secondly on a highly effective exhaust gas treatment system using two 1.4-litre near-engine catalytic converters. Each of these is equipped with two lambda sensors - one control and one diagnostic sensor - and is in a linear closed loop. This means that the lambda sensors are already active immediately after the engine is started, providing information about the exhaust gas constituents which the electronic control unit processes to ensure an efficient warm-up phase. The catalytic converters also reach their normal operating temperature more rapidly thanks to the air-gap-insulated, stainless steel exhaust manifold.

The in-engine systems include variable camshaft adjustment, which makes efficient internal exhaust gas recirculation possible under part-throttle conditions. The adjustable tumble-flaps in the intake ducts of the V6 engine, which improve the combustion process, also make a major contribution to minimising the engine's untreated emissions. A secondary air injection system is also used. This has an afterburning effect on the exhaust gases, raising the temperature in the exhaust ducts and enabling the catalytic converter to convert pollutant emissions at an earlier stage. This thermal afterburning also reduces the proportion of carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons in the exhaust gases.

Perfect partner: seven-speed automatic transmission as standard

The powerful V6 engine and the 7G-TRONIC seven-speed automatic transmission are a formidable team on board the new E 350. Thanks to a number of special technical features, this transmission enables the characteristics of the six-cylinder engine to be fully exploited and makes an important contribution to powerful acceleration, fast intermediate sprints, a favourable fuel consumption and a high level of gearshift comfort.

The special qualities of the world's first seven-speed automatic transmission for passenger cars are due to a number of design features. The most important is the increase in forward gears from the previous five to seven. This allows a wider spread of ratios, as well as further reducing the differences in engine speed between the individual gears achieved by the five-speed transmission. As a result, the driver can rely on having the optimum ratio at his or her disposal for virtually any driving situation. In addition, the electronic control unit has even more scope with which to optimise the shift processes to achieve lower fuel consumption and greater comfort. For example, at 100 km/h the engine speed will be on average - depending on the driving situation - around twelve percent lower than with a five-speed automatic. This impressive engine speed adjustment system opens the door to lower noise, as well as improved fuel economy.

Mercedes engineers have achieved further important advances where shift control is concerned: if the driver needs to accelerate quickly and therefore change down rapidly through several gears - i.e. kick-down - 7G-TRONIC avoids having to move through the gears in strict order. Instead, the transmission uses its direct downshift capability, shifting down by as many as four gears - as the situation requires - rather than just one at a time. Shift times have been reduced significantly below the levels of the previous five-speed automatic transmission.

The seven-speed automatic transmission also features a torque converter lockup clutch. This is located in the hydrodynamic torque converter and largely eliminates slip between the impeller and the turbine wheel in many operating situations. It manages this by establishing - where possible - a virtually rigid connection between the engine and transmission shafts, thus preventing power losses. In contrast to conventional automatic transmissions, where the converter can only be locked up in higher gears, the lock-up clutch in the seven-speed automatic transmission by Mercedes-Benz is already active in first gear. In addition, in the interests of comfort, the torque converter lock-up clutch features slip control, which allows it to run extremely smoothly. This is another way in which Mercedes engineers have achieved optimal shift quality.

Gear changes at the touch of a button: optional gearshift buttons on the steering wheel

In order to tap into the remarkable performance of the six-cylinder engine rapidly and smoothly in any driving situation, 7G-TRONIC can also be operated by means of optionally available gearshift buttons on the steering wheel.

In addition to this manual mode, drivers can also make use of the "C" (Comfort) and "S" (Sport) settings, in which the gears are shifted automatically. The "S" mode is configured for a particularly sporty driving style, and the movements of the accelerator pedal are transmitted more directly. In "C" mode a comparatively lower gearshift frequency intentionally brings about a particularly calm, relaxed style of driving.

Good traction: E 350 also available with 4MATIC

Mercedes-Benz also offers the new E 350 with the option of 4MATIC permanent four-wheel drive and a five-speed automatic transmission. By interacting intelligently with the standard Electronic Stability Program ESP® and the electronic traction control system 4ETS, 4MATIC helps the driver to manage critical situations safely and confidently. In adverse weather conditions with snow, ice or wet roads, for example, as well as when moving off, accelerating or driving on loose surfaces, the 4MATIC models by Mercedes-Benz ensure an even higher level of traction and dynamism. Moreover, 4ETS guarantees typical Mercedes ride comfort because the system operates without the conventional differential locks which tend to impair comfort and handling in other four-wheel drive cars. Instead 4ETS applies specific brake pressure to spinning wheels, directing the drive torque to the wheels which still have good traction. In this way electronic traction control achieves the effect of three differential locks.

The new sports package for the E-Class: strong performer

- 18-inch wheels, sporty suspension and more direct steering
- Seats with TWIN Leather upholstery, leather sports steering wheel and stainless steel pedals
- All-in price between 1276 and 2088 Euro, depending on model

Elegance, dynamism and innovation - this is the recipe for success which has placed the E-Class in the fast lane since spring 2002. In future Mercedes customers will be able to emphasise the dynamic aspect in the character of the Saloon and Estate even more strongly, and to equip their E-Class even more individually. From March 2005 Mercedes-Benz will be offering a sports package which in-cludes numerous valuable extras - many of which are not available individually.

Models equipped with the sports package attract attention at first glance: the high-sheen 18-inch light-alloy wheels make the car's side view a real eyecatcher. The elegant ten-twin-spoke design of the wheels allows a view of the silver-painted brake callipers with the Mercedes logo and the perforated front brake discs, which discreetly but effectively accentuate the sporty and dynamic appear-ance of the E-Class. This is matched by the handling, as the sports package also includes a sporty suspension configuration and a ten percent more direct steering ratio (14.7:1) with a speed-dependent function. The newly developed light-alloy wheels are combined with wide-base tyres in size 245/40 R 18 at the front and 265/35 R 18 at the rear.

The side skirts and rear bumper are adopted from the AVANTGARDE line and provide a sporty touch, as do the oval stainless steel exhaust tailpipes. The rear bumper conceals special rear silencers which ensure a powerful and sonorous exhaust note. Models in the ELEGANCE line equipped with the sports package are fitted with the AVANTGARDE front bumper including a headlamp cleaning system.

Sporty and elegant atmosphere in the interior

In the interior, the specially designed seats, in particular, emphasise the character of models equipped with the sports package. The seats are upholstered in an anthracite-coloured combination of genuine leather (seat surfaces) and high-quality artificial leather (side bolsters). Fine topstitching in a light-coloured thread provide a contrast on the seats. The sports package for the E-Class includes a four-spoke sports steering wheel with integral gearshift buttons for manual operation of the automatic transmission, a gearshift lever in a sporty design, a stainless steel pedal cluster with black rubber studs and floor mats with a contrasting border and the Mercedes logo. The contents of the new sports pack-age at a glance:

Exterior
- 18-inch light-alloy wheels in ten twin-spoke design
- 245/40 R 18 wide-base tyres at the front, 265/35 R 18 at the rear
- Silver-painted front brake calli-pers with Mercedes logo
- Front brake discs internally venti-lated and perforated
- Rear bumper and side skirts in AVANTGARDE design
- Oval exhaust tailpipes of polished stainless steel
- Special rear silencer
- Sporty suspension configuration
- More direct, speed-sensitive steering

Interior
- Four-spoke sports steering wheel with gearshift buttons for the automatic transmission
- Sporty shift lever
- Pedals of brushed stainless steel with black rubber studs
- Driver footrest of brushed stainless steel with black rubber studs
- Sports seats with TWIN Leather upholstery and contrasting seams
- Floor mats bordered in a contrasting colour with Mercedes logo

With the exception of the E 240, the sports package is available for the petrol models in the E-Class (Saloon and Estate) and can be combined with any of the lines. Prices (ex factory) are between 1050 and 1700 Euro depending on engine and line.

In place of the previous bodystyling package, an AMG sports package with 18-inch AMG light-alloy wheels, AMG exhaust tailpipes and AMG floor mats will be available from March 2005.
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good job mercedes for making a great car better
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^ Yep. It's good to see that Mercedes remaining on the forefront of cutting edge tech for it's most used engines, like the V6, and not just the exotics used in the AMG models, etc. More power, much better fuel comsumption, nicer looks... can't wait to see it with the 18s.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Autospies reports that the E350 will be available "midway in the 2005 model year" and that the car will "out perform the current G35 sedan".

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I don't know what they smoking by saying E350 will out perform G35?

2005 Merecedes Benz E350
268.2HP (200KW)
258.14TQ (350NM)
Weight: over 3600lbs

2005 Infiniti G35 5AT
280HP
270HP
Weight: 3,468 lbs
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Originally Posted by 02AV6
I don't know what they smoking by saying E350 will out perform G35?

2005 Merecedes Benz E350
268.2HP (200KW)
258.14TQ (350NM)
Weight: over 3600lbs

2005 Infiniti G35 5AT
280HP
270HP
Weight: 3,468 lbs
They're not even close competitors - should be comparing it to at least the new Infiniti M35...
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^Yeah, the M35 is direct competition to this E-Class. And something tells me the M will outhandle, out run, and drive circles around this E. That said, the E will be a great car.
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