Mercedes-Benz: CLS-Class News
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it's awesome
#86
I dunno, I'm obviously not feeling it, I've LOVED the stiched seats in the concept(x-pattern{pure bentley}) but I see the same old thing in this production car, oh my 'command center' with everything I don't want thanks(hey it has #'s omg). Lame also, Jag dash, yes even the mid jaq has what MeC call 80k, kinda beat imo-th3 MeC malfunction dash.
Low ass rear entry(rear door entry), umm no headroom<rx8, hey MeC(mercedes'y'chrysler), suicide, werd. Silly ass idea, coupe>sedan no matter how MeC adds it up.
Low ass rear entry(rear door entry), umm no headroom<rx8, hey MeC(mercedes'y'chrysler), suicide, werd. Silly ass idea, coupe>sedan no matter how MeC adds it up.
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Originally posted by ItalianStallion
like i said, its a coupe. look at it like a RX8 approach to the coupe. the back two doors are to provide better access to the rear seats, that is all. it is not a sedan. the sweeping lines and the general build of the cabin is coupe, this just has 4 doors. it is a 4 door coupe. it doesnt sit between S and E class, its under the CL and above the CLK. if i remember correctly, its a 6 series competitor.
like i said, its a coupe. look at it like a RX8 approach to the coupe. the back two doors are to provide better access to the rear seats, that is all. it is not a sedan. the sweeping lines and the general build of the cabin is coupe, this just has 4 doors. it is a 4 door coupe. it doesnt sit between S and E class, its under the CL and above the CLK. if i remember correctly, its a 6 series competitor.
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i agree that the second pair of doors does kinda make this car confusing to the public. it would have been better for them to have the second pair be less conspicuous like on the RX8. suicide doors, no outside handle or a very small one, something to that effect would make this car much more believable as a coupe.
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Mercedes CLS Class AMG News **CLS63 at Geneva (page 6)**
Spy Shot: Mercedes CLS 65 AMG - - - Source: 4car.com
The concept of a four-door coupe didn't initially appeal to us, but you have to admit that in action at the Nurburgring, the Mercedes-Benz CLS looks stunning. Especially in full AMG trim: this is the CLS 65 AMG. Fitted with the same engine as the CL 65 AMG - a 6.0-litre twin-turbo V12 delivering 612bhp, 738lb ft of torque and sub-4.5 second 0-60mph acceleration - and AMG Speedshift five-speed auto transmission, it's likely to be one of the ultimate super-coupe purchases of the next few years. Even if it does have two doors too many.
The concept of a four-door coupe didn't initially appeal to us, but you have to admit that in action at the Nurburgring, the Mercedes-Benz CLS looks stunning. Especially in full AMG trim: this is the CLS 65 AMG. Fitted with the same engine as the CL 65 AMG - a 6.0-litre twin-turbo V12 delivering 612bhp, 738lb ft of torque and sub-4.5 second 0-60mph acceleration - and AMG Speedshift five-speed auto transmission, it's likely to be one of the ultimate super-coupe purchases of the next few years. Even if it does have two doors too many.
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I'm not feeling the styling too really. Looks too long to me... BUT, those engine specs are amazing. WIth 600hp and 700+ torque, it better run sub 4.5 second 0-60!
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Originally posted by Collective27
Still dont know if i like the style or not, but wouldnt this have the 7g tronic trany and not the 5 speed?
Still dont know if i like the style or not, but wouldnt this have the 7g tronic trany and not the 5 speed?
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Originally posted by Collective27
Still dont know if i like the style or not, but wouldnt this have the 7g tronic trany and not the 5 speed?
Still dont know if i like the style or not, but wouldnt this have the 7g tronic trany and not the 5 speed?
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Originally posted by ItalianStallion
i thought the 7G was intended supposed to be put into the new AMG's because of torque issues with the 5 speed.
i thought the 7G was intended supposed to be put into the new AMG's because of torque issues with the 5 speed.
So in a case where you have a few select vehicles like the AMG 65 line, it might have not made economic sense to add to the cost of the 7G and made it able to withstand 700+ pounds of torque.
Plus, with this enormous torque levels and I am sure, flat torque curve, you dont need more than 5 gears, as long as they are well spaced out.
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The 7G's got less torque tolerances than the 5 speed auto. Usually the more gears you add, the more difficult and expensive it gets to add to the max torque tolerance of a tranny.
So in a case where you have a few select vehicles like the AMG 65 line, it might have not made economic sense to add to the cost of the 7G and made it able to withstand 700+ pounds of torque.
Plus, with this enormous torque levels and I am sure, flat torque curve, you dont need more than 5 gears, as long as they are well spaced out.
The 7G's got less torque tolerances than the 5 speed auto. Usually the more gears you add, the more difficult and expensive it gets to add to the max torque tolerance of a tranny.
So in a case where you have a few select vehicles like the AMG 65 line, it might have not made economic sense to add to the cost of the 7G and made it able to withstand 700+ pounds of torque.
Plus, with this enormous torque levels and I am sure, flat torque curve, you dont need more than 5 gears, as long as they are well spaced out.
#105
Holy fck
That car is so badass! I dont understand how some of you aren't feeling the look, I love how MB is going out on a limb for them as far as styling goes. The motor goes with out saying and would make any car an object of desire, but its the styling that sets this car apart. Its guaranteed to be a classic.
#106
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That is without a doubt the best looking Mercedes-Benz currently in production. IMO.
The CL and SL series come close, but there is something about that car that makes me
The CL and SL series come close, but there is something about that car that makes me
#117
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General
Make Mercedes-Benz
Year 2004
Engine Location Front
Drive Type Rear Wheel
Weight NA
Gears 5
Transmission Type automatic
Engine
Cylinders 8
Engine Configuration V
Aspiration/Induction Normal
Displacement 5 L | 305 cu in. | 4999 cc.
Valves 24. 3 valves per cylinder.
Valvetrain SOHC
Horsepower 225.2 Kw / 306 BHP @ 5600 RPM
Torque 461.0 Nm / 340 Ft-lbs @ 4250 RPM
Redline NA
Bore NA
Stroke NA
Compression Ratio NA
BHP per Liter 61.20
Performance
0-60 mph NA
1/4 Mile NA
Top Speed 155 mph | 249.4 km/h
#119
teh tailpipes on CLS500 are retarded