Mercedes-Benz: AMG GT News
09-26-2018, 11:26 AM
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For the last few years, Mercedes-Benz has put a great deal of effort and resources into the development of its in-house performance division, AMG. No longer tasked with simply enhancing Mercedes-Benz models, Mercedes-AMG now builds production vehicles from the ground up with an emphasis on track-capable performance.
Following in the footsteps of the SLS AMG and Mercedes-AMG GT, the new Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe is the third AMG vehicle designed and engineered entirely in-house. With this level of creative control, Mercedes-AMG says it’s endowed the GT 53, 63, and 63 S 4-Door Coupe with true sports car driving dynamics — at no cost to daily driving comfort. Pricing information has not yet been disclosed, but the GT 4-Door will compete directly with Porsche’s Panamera, which ranges from $85,000 to $185,000.
Our first drive of the low-slung four-seater takes us to the twisty back roads around Austin, Texas, and to the Circuit of the Americas which welcomes the annual American Grand Prix. Will the GT 4-Door be too fierce for the family, too tame for the track, or snugly in between?
Though the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe doesn’t receive Mercedes-Benz’s latest infotainment tech, MBUX, its twin 12.3-inch displays and COMAND module are still dazzling. The high-quality glass displays appear as one seamless widescreen but split content right above the start/stop button. The driver’s display is viewed in one of three orientations: classic, sport, or supersport (which centers the tachometer). Touch controls on the steering wheel, which swipe like a smartphone, customize information on the instrument cluster. An 8.0-inch head-up display is available to complement the large digital monitors.
A track pad with haptic feedback and a set of brushed metal toggles on the dash control the center screen, which displays navigation, media, climate control, and other common functions. COMAND still isn’t the most intuitive system on the market, but it’s no longer frustrating to use thanks to faster response times and a more logical menu structure. Multiple USB ports, Bluetooth, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and a Wi-Fi hotspot are all part of the package.
Mercedes-AMG’s full suite of active safety features, including adaptive cruise control, lane keeping assist, automatic emergency braking, blind spot monitoring, and rear cross-traffic alert are available.
There’s no such thing as a slow GT 4-Door Coupe, but the range does graduate from simply “fast” to viciously so depending on your chosen spec.
GT 53 models embrace a turbocharged, 3.0-liter straight six-cylinder engine with a hybrid trick. Though the 429-horsepower six has plenty of grunt, the addition of a starter-generator positioned between the engine and the transmission bumps output by 21 hp and cuts torque delay significantly. If 4.4 seconds to 60 mph doesn’t impress, the GT 63 and 63 S should satisfy.
Both GT 63 and 63 S models utilize AMG’s 4.0-liter bi-turbo V8. Standard 63 cars pump out 577 hp and 590 lb-ft of torque for a 0-60 sprint of 3.3 seconds and a top speed of 193 mph. Atop the range, the GT 63 S churns out a staggering 630 hp and 664 lb-ft of torque, rocketing the four-seater to 60 mph in 3.1 seconds and an electronically limited top speed of 195 mph. Whichever motor suits your fancy, the GT 4-Door Coupe comes equipped with AMG’s nine-speed multi-clutch transmission and 4Matic+ all-wheel drive.
On paper, a family hauler seems like a mismatched vehicle for a Formula One racetrack, but the Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S 4-Door Coupe is unlike any four-door we’ve driven in anger.
Wielding what is surely two-plus tons of mass (its official curb weight hasn’t been announced yet) is no easy task, but AMG uses a number of sophisticated technologies to make the GT 63 S light on its feet. The root of all athleticism is AMG’s Performance 4Matic+ AWD system, which continuously varies torque split between the front and rear axles based on driving style and conditions. Paired with an electronic limited-slip rear differential, multi-chamber air suspension, active rear steering, and a set of grippy Michelin PS4S tires, the GT 63 S clings in corners and surges at exit. S models also benefit from adaptive engine mounts, which stiffen depending on drive mode to increase chassis rigidity and responsiveness.
Barreling through COTA’s 3.4-mile circuit, the GT 63 S takes precise lines through corners, carries tremendous velocity down the straights, scrubs speed effectively (thanks to our tester’s six-piston carbon ceramic stoppers), and rips between gears without hesitation. Weight transfer is the only indicator that you aren’t driving a track-bred two-door; compared to the AMG GT R, the GT 4-Door Coupe needs a fraction of a second longer to settle before taking the next move. That said, we doubt any other four-door could keep pace with the GT 63 S on a racing circuit.
With the all-new CLS forfeiting its AMG specification, the GT 4-Door Coupe assumes the mantle of Mercedes-AMG’s most dynamic four-door. Styled to match its aggression, the GT sits low and wide, with a fastback silhouette, broad fenders, and long hood.
Like the two-door, the GT 4-door wears Mercedes-AMG’s shark nose, slotted Panamericana grill, piercing LED headlights, and active air channel flanked by large inlets. If not for the hood angle and taller ride height, one could easily confuse the two- and four-door GTs. In profile, a range of 19-, 20-, and 21-inch wheels tuck neatly within the GT’s pronounced fenders. Our favorite set, the chunky five-spoke monoblock, is a throwback to late 1990s AMG models and look appropriate on the GT’s pumped-up bod. Importantly, the GT’s gently tapering silhouette is also distinguishable from the redesigned CLS. At the rear, thin LED taillights, integrated air extractors, and quad exhaust ports balance muscle and elegance.
The GT 4-Door Coupe can be dressed in one of six styling packages, with black gloss, bright chrome, or carbon fiber treatments paired with unique bumpers. A class-exclusive fixed rear wing is part of one such kit, though we prefer the integrated (and vastly subtler) trunk spoiler. Customers can also choose from a large selection of standard and matte paint colors. However you spec it, the GT 4-Door Coupe is a handsome devil.
Within the GT 4-Door Coupe awaits Mercedes-Benz’s familiar, luxurious cabin — aroused with AMG performance touches. A large, three-spoke, flat-bottom steering wheel features a dial to quickly flip between drive modes and a pair of reconfigurable tabs to change performance settings on the fly. Customers can choose from two front seat options, each available in MB-Tex, Nappa, or microfiber suede coverings. The more aggressive AMG Performance seats include adjustable side bolsters and are available with seat heating or ventilation. Standard sport seats add a massaging function to the comfort equation.
Only a pair of rear passengers can tag along for the ride, accommodated by a choice of seating configurations. Standard is a set of non-foldable chairs with an open center area. The optional executive package adds a fixed center console with convenience feature settings and folding seatbacks. In the name of chassis rigidity, the GT 4-Door Coupe isn’t available with a panoramic sunroof, which does make the rear compartment feel smaller than it is.
Mercedes-AMG includes a four-year/50,000-mile new car warranty, but unlike its luxury rivals, it doesn’t offer complimentary scheduled maintenance.
The GT 4-Door Coupe has not yet been crash-tested by the IIHS or NHTSA.
A year ago, the GT 4-Door Coupe would have had several direct rivals, including BMW’s M6 Gran Sport and Audi’s RS7, but today the only direct competitor is Porsche’s Panamera. Shoppers in the performance four-door space will likely consider BMW’s M5 and Tesla’s Model S P100D, as well. The GT will inevitably overlap with the E63.
It’s no coincidence that AMG’s three tiers of GT 4-Door Coupe performance (53, 63, and 63 S) match up with Porsche’s Panamera 4S (440 hp, $104,050), Turbo (550 hp, $155,050), and Turbo S E-Hybrid (680 hp, $185,450). Power and acceleration should net even across the board, save for the range-topping Panamera, which has a 50 hp advantage over the GT 63 S. On a track, however, we expect the AMG would smoke its hybrid-laden German rival.
Mercedes-AMG hasn’t released its online configurator or full packaging details, so we can only submit our vote for the GT 4-Door Coupe’s high-level equipment. It should come as no surprise that, of the three, we’d pick the range-topping GT 63 S for its monstrous power and sensational handling. Loaded with standard performance and tech goodies, there are only a few add-ons we’d choose: the driver assistance features, the Burmeister sound system, the head-up display, and the executive rear seats.
With the GT 4-Door Coupe, AMG has seemingly bent physics to its will. Though weighed down by luxury features, sound-deadening materials, and advanced safety technologies, the GT tames a race track better than most two-door sports cars. And when the lapping session ends, it takes on the role of premium commuter with the same readiness. Consider the four-door performance benchmark elevated.
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- Monoblock wheels are back!
- Dark, low-visibility rear cabin
For the last few years, Mercedes-Benz has put a great deal of effort and resources into the development of its in-house performance division, AMG. No longer tasked with simply enhancing Mercedes-Benz models, Mercedes-AMG now builds production vehicles from the ground up with an emphasis on track-capable performance.
Following in the footsteps of the SLS AMG and Mercedes-AMG GT, the new Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe is the third AMG vehicle designed and engineered entirely in-house. With this level of creative control, Mercedes-AMG says it’s endowed the GT 53, 63, and 63 S 4-Door Coupe with true sports car driving dynamics — at no cost to daily driving comfort. Pricing information has not yet been disclosed, but the GT 4-Door will compete directly with Porsche’s Panamera, which ranges from $85,000 to $185,000.
Our first drive of the low-slung four-seater takes us to the twisty back roads around Austin, Texas, and to the Circuit of the Americas which welcomes the annual American Grand Prix. Will the GT 4-Door be too fierce for the family, too tame for the track, or snugly in between?
Though the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe doesn’t receive Mercedes-Benz’s latest infotainment tech, MBUX, its twin 12.3-inch displays and COMAND module are still dazzling. The high-quality glass displays appear as one seamless widescreen but split content right above the start/stop button. The driver’s display is viewed in one of three orientations: classic, sport, or supersport (which centers the tachometer). Touch controls on the steering wheel, which swipe like a smartphone, customize information on the instrument cluster. An 8.0-inch head-up display is available to complement the large digital monitors.
A track pad with haptic feedback and a set of brushed metal toggles on the dash control the center screen, which displays navigation, media, climate control, and other common functions. COMAND still isn’t the most intuitive system on the market, but it’s no longer frustrating to use thanks to faster response times and a more logical menu structure. Multiple USB ports, Bluetooth, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and a Wi-Fi hotspot are all part of the package.
Mercedes-AMG’s full suite of active safety features, including adaptive cruise control, lane keeping assist, automatic emergency braking, blind spot monitoring, and rear cross-traffic alert are available.
There’s no such thing as a slow GT 4-Door Coupe, but the range does graduate from simply “fast” to viciously so depending on your chosen spec.
GT 53 models embrace a turbocharged, 3.0-liter straight six-cylinder engine with a hybrid trick. Though the 429-horsepower six has plenty of grunt, the addition of a starter-generator positioned between the engine and the transmission bumps output by 21 hp and cuts torque delay significantly. If 4.4 seconds to 60 mph doesn’t impress, the GT 63 and 63 S should satisfy.
Both GT 63 and 63 S models utilize AMG’s 4.0-liter bi-turbo V8. Standard 63 cars pump out 577 hp and 590 lb-ft of torque for a 0-60 sprint of 3.3 seconds and a top speed of 193 mph. Atop the range, the GT 63 S churns out a staggering 630 hp and 664 lb-ft of torque, rocketing the four-seater to 60 mph in 3.1 seconds and an electronically limited top speed of 195 mph. Whichever motor suits your fancy, the GT 4-Door Coupe comes equipped with AMG’s nine-speed multi-clutch transmission and 4Matic+ all-wheel drive.
On paper, a family hauler seems like a mismatched vehicle for a Formula One racetrack, but the Mercedes-AMG GT 63 S 4-Door Coupe is unlike any four-door we’ve driven in anger.
Wielding what is surely two-plus tons of mass (its official curb weight hasn’t been announced yet) is no easy task, but AMG uses a number of sophisticated technologies to make the GT 63 S light on its feet. The root of all athleticism is AMG’s Performance 4Matic+ AWD system, which continuously varies torque split between the front and rear axles based on driving style and conditions. Paired with an electronic limited-slip rear differential, multi-chamber air suspension, active rear steering, and a set of grippy Michelin PS4S tires, the GT 63 S clings in corners and surges at exit. S models also benefit from adaptive engine mounts, which stiffen depending on drive mode to increase chassis rigidity and responsiveness.
Barreling through COTA’s 3.4-mile circuit, the GT 63 S takes precise lines through corners, carries tremendous velocity down the straights, scrubs speed effectively (thanks to our tester’s six-piston carbon ceramic stoppers), and rips between gears without hesitation. Weight transfer is the only indicator that you aren’t driving a track-bred two-door; compared to the AMG GT R, the GT 4-Door Coupe needs a fraction of a second longer to settle before taking the next move. That said, we doubt any other four-door could keep pace with the GT 63 S on a racing circuit.
With the all-new CLS forfeiting its AMG specification, the GT 4-Door Coupe assumes the mantle of Mercedes-AMG’s most dynamic four-door. Styled to match its aggression, the GT sits low and wide, with a fastback silhouette, broad fenders, and long hood.
Like the two-door, the GT 4-door wears Mercedes-AMG’s shark nose, slotted Panamericana grill, piercing LED headlights, and active air channel flanked by large inlets. If not for the hood angle and taller ride height, one could easily confuse the two- and four-door GTs. In profile, a range of 19-, 20-, and 21-inch wheels tuck neatly within the GT’s pronounced fenders. Our favorite set, the chunky five-spoke monoblock, is a throwback to late 1990s AMG models and look appropriate on the GT’s pumped-up bod. Importantly, the GT’s gently tapering silhouette is also distinguishable from the redesigned CLS. At the rear, thin LED taillights, integrated air extractors, and quad exhaust ports balance muscle and elegance.
The GT 4-Door Coupe can be dressed in one of six styling packages, with black gloss, bright chrome, or carbon fiber treatments paired with unique bumpers. A class-exclusive fixed rear wing is part of one such kit, though we prefer the integrated (and vastly subtler) trunk spoiler. Customers can also choose from a large selection of standard and matte paint colors. However you spec it, the GT 4-Door Coupe is a handsome devil.
Within the GT 4-Door Coupe awaits Mercedes-Benz’s familiar, luxurious cabin — aroused with AMG performance touches. A large, three-spoke, flat-bottom steering wheel features a dial to quickly flip between drive modes and a pair of reconfigurable tabs to change performance settings on the fly. Customers can choose from two front seat options, each available in MB-Tex, Nappa, or microfiber suede coverings. The more aggressive AMG Performance seats include adjustable side bolsters and are available with seat heating or ventilation. Standard sport seats add a massaging function to the comfort equation.
Only a pair of rear passengers can tag along for the ride, accommodated by a choice of seating configurations. Standard is a set of non-foldable chairs with an open center area. The optional executive package adds a fixed center console with convenience feature settings and folding seatbacks. In the name of chassis rigidity, the GT 4-Door Coupe isn’t available with a panoramic sunroof, which does make the rear compartment feel smaller than it is.
Mercedes-AMG includes a four-year/50,000-mile new car warranty, but unlike its luxury rivals, it doesn’t offer complimentary scheduled maintenance.
The GT 4-Door Coupe has not yet been crash-tested by the IIHS or NHTSA.
A year ago, the GT 4-Door Coupe would have had several direct rivals, including BMW’s M6 Gran Sport and Audi’s RS7, but today the only direct competitor is Porsche’s Panamera. Shoppers in the performance four-door space will likely consider BMW’s M5 and Tesla’s Model S P100D, as well. The GT will inevitably overlap with the E63.
It’s no coincidence that AMG’s three tiers of GT 4-Door Coupe performance (53, 63, and 63 S) match up with Porsche’s Panamera 4S (440 hp, $104,050), Turbo (550 hp, $155,050), and Turbo S E-Hybrid (680 hp, $185,450). Power and acceleration should net even across the board, save for the range-topping Panamera, which has a 50 hp advantage over the GT 63 S. On a track, however, we expect the AMG would smoke its hybrid-laden German rival.
Mercedes-AMG hasn’t released its online configurator or full packaging details, so we can only submit our vote for the GT 4-Door Coupe’s high-level equipment. It should come as no surprise that, of the three, we’d pick the range-topping GT 63 S for its monstrous power and sensational handling. Loaded with standard performance and tech goodies, there are only a few add-ons we’d choose: the driver assistance features, the Burmeister sound system, the head-up display, and the executive rear seats.
With the GT 4-Door Coupe, AMG has seemingly bent physics to its will. Though weighed down by luxury features, sound-deadening materials, and advanced safety technologies, the GT tames a race track better than most two-door sports cars. And when the lapping session ends, it takes on the role of premium commuter with the same readiness. Consider the four-door performance benchmark elevated.
09-26-2018, 11:26 AM
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11-21-2018, 09:36 AM
#163
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https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/20/...les-auto-show/
Based on recent spy shots, we suspected that Mercedes was working on a special GT R, and now it's official. The company officially announced it would be showing something called the Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro at the L.A. Auto Show. It will also be accompanied by updated versions of the other AMG GT two-door coupes. According to Mercedes, the updates to the two-door are supposed to make it look more related to the four-door GT.
Along with the announcement comes a photo of the car in a vinyl camouflage wrap. It may hide some more subtle details, but it can't hide the deeper front splitter or the big canards on either side of the front bumper. It looks like the big splitter adjustment struts from the test car we saw a few weeks ago are gone, but there do appear to be some sort of smaller support struts added to the front bumper.
As for what we should expect from the GT R Pro, it should be a pretty serious track machine, even more so than the regular R. Mercedes says it has been tweaked based on what the company has learned from its GT3 and GT4 racing program. Most of the improvements will probably be in aerodynamics and suspension. We wouldn't mind seeing a bit more power, too, since the top-spec AMG GT four-door is more potent than the GT R. Mercedes also made it clear this will be a very limited edition model. Stay tuned for more details when the car is fully unveiled at the L.A. Auto Show on November 29.
Along with the announcement comes a photo of the car in a vinyl camouflage wrap. It may hide some more subtle details, but it can't hide the deeper front splitter or the big canards on either side of the front bumper. It looks like the big splitter adjustment struts from the test car we saw a few weeks ago are gone, but there do appear to be some sort of smaller support struts added to the front bumper.
As for what we should expect from the GT R Pro, it should be a pretty serious track machine, even more so than the regular R. Mercedes says it has been tweaked based on what the company has learned from its GT3 and GT4 racing program. Most of the improvements will probably be in aerodynamics and suspension. We wouldn't mind seeing a bit more power, too, since the top-spec AMG GT four-door is more potent than the GT R. Mercedes also made it clear this will be a very limited edition model. Stay tuned for more details when the car is fully unveiled at the L.A. Auto Show on November 29.
11-29-2018, 09:36 AM
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https://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-...-amg_gt_r_pro/
For model year 2020, the top athlete from Affalterbach now comes to the starting line honed even further, and with the new limited edition AMG GT R PRO. In addition to exterior updates, the two-door AMG GT Coupes and Roadsters will be fitted with the AMG DYNAMICS integrated driving control system for added agility, a new AMG Performance steering wheel, the center console with innovative display buttons from the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe and a fully digital instrument display with exclusive AMG "Superport" display style on the instrument cluster. The AMG GT R PRO was modified in numerous details to deliver even more racetrack performance: The lightweight construction, new suspension and aerodynamic fine-tuning result in even more downforce overall. Lightweight-design wheels also contribute to the enhanced driving dynamics and faster lap times on the racetrack.
"The AMG GT embodies the core of our brand, "Driving Performance," in a unique way. At its debut four years ago, it not only turned the heads of customers and sports car enthusiasts, but also created new dimensions in the competitive environment. In order to continue this success story, we have now equipped it with numerous innovations from the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe and added a new limited-edition model: No other current production Mercedes- AMG is as close to motor racing as the new AMG GT R PRO. A lot of experience from our current GT3 and GT4 motorsport activities entered into its development.
The agile responses to all driver commands and the overall performance now deliver even more of that incomparable feeling that our racing drivers experience on the track," says Tobias Moers, Chairman of the Management Board of Mercedes-AMG GmbH.
Fully digital instrument display as standard
As in the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe, the new telematics architecture in the two- door AMG GT models makes the innovative, standard fully digital instrument display with 12.3-inch instrument cluster and a 10.25-inch multimedia display on the center console possible. The instrument cluster offers an entirely new screen design with the three AMG-specific display styles "Classic," "Sporty" or "Supersport." In the "Supersport" mode, there is also extensive additional information specific to AMG, such as a prompt borrowed from motorsport to shift up while in manual transmission mode. The newly designed visualizations in the multimedia display enable further vehicle functions to be experienced even more vividly, e.g. with an animated presentation of the driving assistance, vehicle and communication systems.
Via the left-hand touch control button on the steering wheel, preferred information can also be displayed on the left or right-hand side of the instrument panel - for example the classic speedometer and rev counter, navigation information or assistance systems through to detailed engine data. Sporty drivers can even fade in a g-force display or the current output and torque values.
Innovative display buttons in the center console
The eye-catching feature in the interior is the center console with its stylized V8 design, not only putting the spotlight on the brand's performance credentials but also perfectly fulfilling functional requirements. The 2-door AMG GT now also receives the innovative, colored display buttons. They integrate the display and steering of transmission logistics, chassis, ESP, exhaust system, rear spoiler and start stop function. Using TFT technology the display buttons use intuitive symbols to show the function and are easy to operate with just a small tap of the finger. The display buttons are supplemented by two rocker switches for the drive programs and volume control.
It's all down to the grip: the new generation of AMG steering wheels
The 2-door AMG GT will also receive the new AMG performance steering wheel which celebrated its debut in the AMG GT 4-door coupe and is also available in the C 63. It is characterized by its sporty design, a flattened bottom section with a heavily contoured rim and intuitive operation. The steering wheel cover in black nappa leather is perforated at the sides to ensure optimum grip.
On the AMG GT C the steering wheel comes standard with a rim in black nappa leather/DINAMICA microfiber. In the AMG GT R the rim is completely covered with DINAMICA microfiber. The AMG steering wheel also comes in black nappa leather with trim in black piano gloss, as well as DINAMICA microfiber with elements in high-gloss carbon fiber. The galvanized gearshift paddles on the steering wheel allow an even sportier driving style with manual gear shifting.
The integrated Touch Control buttons can be used to control the functions of the digital dash and the multimedia display by means of horizontal and vertical swiping of the finger.
All 2-door AMG GT models come standard with the new AMG steering wheel buttons. These consist of a round controller with an integrated display beneath the right-hand steering-wheel spoke, plus two vertically positioned color display buttons with switches beneath the left-hand steering-wheel spoke.
The AMG drive programs can be triggered via the controller. The selected setting is shown on the color LCD display directly integrated in the controller.
The two freely configurable display buttons and the additional switches on the left-hand side enable further AMG functions to be controlled directly on the steering wheel. This means that the driver can concentrate fully on dynamic driving without having to take their hands off the wheel. Each required function can be depicted on the display icon and its switch is tapped by the driver to set the respective function.
The two individually specified AMG functions can be defined exactly and the settings changed with just one tap of the finger.
Data log for use on the race track: AMG TRACK PACE
The AMG TRACK PACE virtual race engineer, which records data when driving on closed-off race tracks, provides a significantly extended and even more precise scope of functions. AMG TRACK PACE is a standard part of the COMAND online infotainment system.
Once the function has been activated, while driving on a race track, more than 80 vehicle-specific sets of data (e.g. speed, acceleration) are recorded ten times per second. On top of this, lap and sector times are displayed, as well as the respective difference to a reference time. Because specific display elements are shown in green or red, the driver is able to see at a glance without reading numbers whether they are currently faster or slower than the best time.
After putting in some fast laps, the driver can use the data to analyze and, if necessary, improve their driving skills. In addition, acceleration and deceleration values can be measured and saved. Thanks to a newly developed algorithm which determines the vehicle position as precisely as possible, AMG TRACK PACE even detects when the track has been left or if it has been shortened. This is done using GPS data as well as the sensors available in the vehicle (acceleration, gyroscope, steering angle, wheel speeds.)
The data is displayed on the multimedia display and the digital dash. Well- known race tracks like, for example, the Nürburgring or Spa Francorchamps, are already stored. Furthermore, it is also possible to record your own tracks.
Exterior: AMG GT family connection further enhanced
The new light controls of the LED high performance headlights now show parallels to the AMG GT 4-door coupe and therefore further enhance the AMG GT family connection. A tri-functional, arched light guide takes on the functions of daytime running light, navigation light and turn signals.
The multi-chamber reflector system with three single reflectors each, for dipped beam and main beam, not only ensure optimal illumination of the roadway, but also give the AMG GT a sporty, dynamic look which gains even more optical depth as the result of the black background. The light of the LED tail lights also appears even deeper set and sportier through the dark background.
From the back the new look of the rear bumper is striking, its sporty black diffuser insert was redesigned for the AMG GT and AMG GT C. At the same time the tail pipe outlet was visually redesigned and matched to the shape of the AMG GT 4-door coupe. The AMG GT now has two round twin tail pipe outlets, the AMG GT C has trapezoidal shaped twin tail pipe outlets. The rear design of the AMG GT R keeps its distinctive shape with the large, centrally positioned tail pipe outlet with center bar. It is flanked by two more black tail pipes on the left and right of the diffuser.
The AMG GT receives a new black grained sill cover on the bottom section. This makes for an additional dynamic optical look. Used in combination with the optional exterior package, additional decorative element attachments emphasize these features.
Also, if desired, the AMG GT is available with a new light alloy y-spoke wheel in titanium gray with a finely polished surface. In addition, an option for the AMG GT C is the new 10-double-spoked forged wheels in titanium gray with finely polished surfaces or in soft black with finely polished rim flange.
A new standard feature is the parking package with the PARKTRONIC park assistant and front and rear cameras, which increases ease of use when manuevering. One more sign of an AMG GT family connection is the newly available brilliant blue magno paint for the 2-door AMG GT, a color which will be introduced with the AMG GT 4-door coupe. Other extras are two-tone leather upholstery in exclusive nappa style in silver pearl/black.
Even more agile through AMG DYNAMICS
As a new feature in the AMG DYNAMIC SELECT "Slippery," "Comfort," "Sport," "Sport Plus," "RACE" and "Individual" drive programs, the 2-door AMG GT now also comes with AMG DYNAMICS. This integrated driving dynamics regulation expands the functions of ESP® (electronic stability program) to exact distribution of power distribution at the rear axles and steering characteristics.
In this way the AMG GT becomes even more agile. AMG DYNAMICS optimizes the transverse dynamics by higher lateral acceleration, better traction and load change reactions.
Particularly remarkable: AMG DYNAMICS calculates how the vehicle will react. To do this, the system uses the available sensors that detect the speed, the steering angle or the yaw rate, for instance. Based on the pilot-control principle it is possible to anticipate the vehicle behavior on the basis of the driver's actions and the data from the sensors. The control system reacts in this way even before the driver - and with no noticeable intervention of the system. The driver gets a very authentic driving feel with high cornering dynamics and optimum traction as well as high stability and predictable handling. Even experienced drivers receive optimum assistance without feeling patronised by the system.
The different AMG DYNAMICS modes are named "Basic," "Advanced," "Pro" and "Master." The drive program selection indicated on the multimedia display now shows the new AMG DYNAMICS symbol with the relevant additional term instead of the previous ESP®symbol.
"Basic" is assigned to the "Slippery" and "Comfort" drive programs. Here the AMG GT demonstrates exceptionally stable handling characteristics with high yaw damping.
"Advanced" is activated in the "Sport" program. The AMG GT is then neutrally balanced. The lower yaw damping, lower steering angle requirement and enhanced agility support dynamic maneuvers such as driving on winding country roads.
"Pro" (abbreviation for "professional") is part of the "Sport+" program. In "Pro" the driver receives even more assistance for dynamic driving maneuvers while agility and precision are further enhanced when taking corners.
"Master" (only available for GT C and GT R) is connected to the RACE drive program. "Master" mode is aimed at drivers who want to experience dynamism and the driving enjoyment on closed-off circuits. "Master" offers an extremely neutral vehicle balance, low steer angle requirement and more agile steering. In this way, "Master" ensures maximum agility and fully exploits the dynamic potential.
Closer to motor racing than ever before: the new AMG GT R PRO
The new limited-edition Mercedes-AMG GT R PRO is characterized by further improved driving dynamics, in particular on the racetrack. Experience gained from the AMG GT3 and AMG GT4 racing cars was influential in its development. The improvements from motorsport can be clustered in four areas: suspension, lightweight construction, aerodynamics and appearance.
Suspension: the optimal set-up
The new AMG coil-over suspension offers even more choice for tailoring the set-up to the particular track. As in professional motorsport, the driver is not only able to set the spring preload length mechanically, but can now also adjust the compression and rebound of the dampers. This is done quickly and precisely without tools via a click system with an integrated adjustment dial on the damper. The compression rate is adjusted separately for high-speed and low-speed movements. This means that the settings can be dialed-in for slow and fast compression movements as is common practice in motorsport. This allows influencing the body dive and roll as well as the traction of the AMG GT R PRO even more selectively.
The front axle is fitted with an adjustable torsion bar made of lightweight carbon fiber. Its counterpart at the rear is made of steel, and is likewise adjustable and also saves weight due to its hollow tube design.
The AMG GT R is already fitted with Uniball spherical bearings at the lower wishbones of the rear axle. The AMG GT R PRO now gets these bearings for the upper wishbones as well. They are significantly more wear-resistant than conventional wishbone bearings and due to their design have no play, which means toe-in and camber do not change even under high loads. As a result, the AMG GT R PRO can be driven with even more precision.
The carbon-fiber shear panel in the underbody of the rear end also contributes to the high handling precision. This lightweight and rigid element stiffens the rear-end structure and as a result adds even more stability to the body shell.
The electronically controlled dynamic engine and transmission mounts were also retuned to further increase the agility and deliver high-precision response and clear feedback.
Lightweight construction: carbon-fiber components and new forged wheels
In addition to a host of carbon-fiber components, weight is saved by making the ceramic composite high-performance braking system standard. And exclusively for the AMG GT R PRO, the brake calipers will be painted black with white lettering. The lightweight AMG Performance Twin 5-spoke forged wheels are exclusively painted titanium gray and feature a rim flange with high-sheen finish.
Aerodynamics: redesigned front apron with additional flics
Aerodynamic fine-tuning increases the overall performance of the AMG GT R PRO as well. The redesigned front apron was fitted with two flics at the sides made of clear-coated carbon fiber. The lower flics transition virtually seamlessly into the front splitter, which was extended further forward and is held by small metal braces - they stabilize the front splitter at higher speeds. Additionally, they are another visual homage to the GT3 and GT4 role models from motorsport.
The air slots in the front fenders effectively vent the wheel arches and contribute to reducing front-axle lift. At the rear, a clear-coated carbon-fiber aero element at the wheel arch on either side rises up vertically almost to the level of the tail lamps. The combination of all these measures significantly reduces front-axle lift without negatively impacting the aerodynamic conditions at the rear axle.
The active aerodynamics profile in the underbody, the AIRPANEL active air regulation system in the front apron and the large spoiler on the hatch, all known from the AMG GT R, are part of the standard specification. In addition, the rear spoiler is fitted with a spoiler lip, which increases downforce at the rear axle, and now sits on milled aluminum brackets that underscore the proximity to motor racing.
Motor racing looks: Carbon Package, new carbon-fiber roof, unique wrap
The AMG GT R PRO doesn't only drive like a racing car, it also looks the part. The standard-fit Carbon Packages I and II with front splitter, fins in the fenders, trim strips in the side sills, side mirrors, rear spoiler, and a diffuser with high-quality clear-coated carbon-fiber finish emphasize the proximity to motorsport, as does the redesigned carbon-fiber roof with lowered center.
The special status is also underscored by the unique vehicle wrap with racing stripes running over the hood, roof and hatch as well as along the sides of the vehicle. This wrap is light green exclusively in combination with the selenite gray magno paint finish. For all other color variants, the stripes come in a dark gray matte. Optionally, the car wrap can also be omitted completely.
Even before the world premiere, the new AMG GT R PRO has impressively demonstrated its performance potential on the racetrack: In early November,
AMG brand ambassador and AMG GT3 racing driver Maro Engel completed a circuit of the Nürburgring North Loop in exactly 7.04.632 minutes driving a still disguised AMG GT R PRO. This considerably bettered the previous time for the AMG GT R and demonstrated the great potential of the current AMG flagship model.
The record lap was measured precisely by the independent experts of "wige SOLUTIONS." An independent notary confirmed the lap time, and that the vehicle's condition was in accordance with regulations.
"The AMG GT embodies the core of our brand, "Driving Performance," in a unique way. At its debut four years ago, it not only turned the heads of customers and sports car enthusiasts, but also created new dimensions in the competitive environment. In order to continue this success story, we have now equipped it with numerous innovations from the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe and added a new limited-edition model: No other current production Mercedes- AMG is as close to motor racing as the new AMG GT R PRO. A lot of experience from our current GT3 and GT4 motorsport activities entered into its development.
The agile responses to all driver commands and the overall performance now deliver even more of that incomparable feeling that our racing drivers experience on the track," says Tobias Moers, Chairman of the Management Board of Mercedes-AMG GmbH.
Fully digital instrument display as standard
As in the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe, the new telematics architecture in the two- door AMG GT models makes the innovative, standard fully digital instrument display with 12.3-inch instrument cluster and a 10.25-inch multimedia display on the center console possible. The instrument cluster offers an entirely new screen design with the three AMG-specific display styles "Classic," "Sporty" or "Supersport." In the "Supersport" mode, there is also extensive additional information specific to AMG, such as a prompt borrowed from motorsport to shift up while in manual transmission mode. The newly designed visualizations in the multimedia display enable further vehicle functions to be experienced even more vividly, e.g. with an animated presentation of the driving assistance, vehicle and communication systems.
Via the left-hand touch control button on the steering wheel, preferred information can also be displayed on the left or right-hand side of the instrument panel - for example the classic speedometer and rev counter, navigation information or assistance systems through to detailed engine data. Sporty drivers can even fade in a g-force display or the current output and torque values.
Innovative display buttons in the center console
The eye-catching feature in the interior is the center console with its stylized V8 design, not only putting the spotlight on the brand's performance credentials but also perfectly fulfilling functional requirements. The 2-door AMG GT now also receives the innovative, colored display buttons. They integrate the display and steering of transmission logistics, chassis, ESP, exhaust system, rear spoiler and start stop function. Using TFT technology the display buttons use intuitive symbols to show the function and are easy to operate with just a small tap of the finger. The display buttons are supplemented by two rocker switches for the drive programs and volume control.
It's all down to the grip: the new generation of AMG steering wheels
The 2-door AMG GT will also receive the new AMG performance steering wheel which celebrated its debut in the AMG GT 4-door coupe and is also available in the C 63. It is characterized by its sporty design, a flattened bottom section with a heavily contoured rim and intuitive operation. The steering wheel cover in black nappa leather is perforated at the sides to ensure optimum grip.
On the AMG GT C the steering wheel comes standard with a rim in black nappa leather/DINAMICA microfiber. In the AMG GT R the rim is completely covered with DINAMICA microfiber. The AMG steering wheel also comes in black nappa leather with trim in black piano gloss, as well as DINAMICA microfiber with elements in high-gloss carbon fiber. The galvanized gearshift paddles on the steering wheel allow an even sportier driving style with manual gear shifting.
The integrated Touch Control buttons can be used to control the functions of the digital dash and the multimedia display by means of horizontal and vertical swiping of the finger.
All 2-door AMG GT models come standard with the new AMG steering wheel buttons. These consist of a round controller with an integrated display beneath the right-hand steering-wheel spoke, plus two vertically positioned color display buttons with switches beneath the left-hand steering-wheel spoke.
The AMG drive programs can be triggered via the controller. The selected setting is shown on the color LCD display directly integrated in the controller.
The two freely configurable display buttons and the additional switches on the left-hand side enable further AMG functions to be controlled directly on the steering wheel. This means that the driver can concentrate fully on dynamic driving without having to take their hands off the wheel. Each required function can be depicted on the display icon and its switch is tapped by the driver to set the respective function.
The two individually specified AMG functions can be defined exactly and the settings changed with just one tap of the finger.
Data log for use on the race track: AMG TRACK PACE
The AMG TRACK PACE virtual race engineer, which records data when driving on closed-off race tracks, provides a significantly extended and even more precise scope of functions. AMG TRACK PACE is a standard part of the COMAND online infotainment system.
Once the function has been activated, while driving on a race track, more than 80 vehicle-specific sets of data (e.g. speed, acceleration) are recorded ten times per second. On top of this, lap and sector times are displayed, as well as the respective difference to a reference time. Because specific display elements are shown in green or red, the driver is able to see at a glance without reading numbers whether they are currently faster or slower than the best time.
After putting in some fast laps, the driver can use the data to analyze and, if necessary, improve their driving skills. In addition, acceleration and deceleration values can be measured and saved. Thanks to a newly developed algorithm which determines the vehicle position as precisely as possible, AMG TRACK PACE even detects when the track has been left or if it has been shortened. This is done using GPS data as well as the sensors available in the vehicle (acceleration, gyroscope, steering angle, wheel speeds.)
The data is displayed on the multimedia display and the digital dash. Well- known race tracks like, for example, the Nürburgring or Spa Francorchamps, are already stored. Furthermore, it is also possible to record your own tracks.
Exterior: AMG GT family connection further enhanced
The new light controls of the LED high performance headlights now show parallels to the AMG GT 4-door coupe and therefore further enhance the AMG GT family connection. A tri-functional, arched light guide takes on the functions of daytime running light, navigation light and turn signals.
The multi-chamber reflector system with three single reflectors each, for dipped beam and main beam, not only ensure optimal illumination of the roadway, but also give the AMG GT a sporty, dynamic look which gains even more optical depth as the result of the black background. The light of the LED tail lights also appears even deeper set and sportier through the dark background.
From the back the new look of the rear bumper is striking, its sporty black diffuser insert was redesigned for the AMG GT and AMG GT C. At the same time the tail pipe outlet was visually redesigned and matched to the shape of the AMG GT 4-door coupe. The AMG GT now has two round twin tail pipe outlets, the AMG GT C has trapezoidal shaped twin tail pipe outlets. The rear design of the AMG GT R keeps its distinctive shape with the large, centrally positioned tail pipe outlet with center bar. It is flanked by two more black tail pipes on the left and right of the diffuser.
The AMG GT receives a new black grained sill cover on the bottom section. This makes for an additional dynamic optical look. Used in combination with the optional exterior package, additional decorative element attachments emphasize these features.
Also, if desired, the AMG GT is available with a new light alloy y-spoke wheel in titanium gray with a finely polished surface. In addition, an option for the AMG GT C is the new 10-double-spoked forged wheels in titanium gray with finely polished surfaces or in soft black with finely polished rim flange.
A new standard feature is the parking package with the PARKTRONIC park assistant and front and rear cameras, which increases ease of use when manuevering. One more sign of an AMG GT family connection is the newly available brilliant blue magno paint for the 2-door AMG GT, a color which will be introduced with the AMG GT 4-door coupe. Other extras are two-tone leather upholstery in exclusive nappa style in silver pearl/black.
Even more agile through AMG DYNAMICS
As a new feature in the AMG DYNAMIC SELECT "Slippery," "Comfort," "Sport," "Sport Plus," "RACE" and "Individual" drive programs, the 2-door AMG GT now also comes with AMG DYNAMICS. This integrated driving dynamics regulation expands the functions of ESP® (electronic stability program) to exact distribution of power distribution at the rear axles and steering characteristics.
In this way the AMG GT becomes even more agile. AMG DYNAMICS optimizes the transverse dynamics by higher lateral acceleration, better traction and load change reactions.
Particularly remarkable: AMG DYNAMICS calculates how the vehicle will react. To do this, the system uses the available sensors that detect the speed, the steering angle or the yaw rate, for instance. Based on the pilot-control principle it is possible to anticipate the vehicle behavior on the basis of the driver's actions and the data from the sensors. The control system reacts in this way even before the driver - and with no noticeable intervention of the system. The driver gets a very authentic driving feel with high cornering dynamics and optimum traction as well as high stability and predictable handling. Even experienced drivers receive optimum assistance without feeling patronised by the system.
The different AMG DYNAMICS modes are named "Basic," "Advanced," "Pro" and "Master." The drive program selection indicated on the multimedia display now shows the new AMG DYNAMICS symbol with the relevant additional term instead of the previous ESP®symbol.
"Basic" is assigned to the "Slippery" and "Comfort" drive programs. Here the AMG GT demonstrates exceptionally stable handling characteristics with high yaw damping.
"Advanced" is activated in the "Sport" program. The AMG GT is then neutrally balanced. The lower yaw damping, lower steering angle requirement and enhanced agility support dynamic maneuvers such as driving on winding country roads.
"Pro" (abbreviation for "professional") is part of the "Sport+" program. In "Pro" the driver receives even more assistance for dynamic driving maneuvers while agility and precision are further enhanced when taking corners.
"Master" (only available for GT C and GT R) is connected to the RACE drive program. "Master" mode is aimed at drivers who want to experience dynamism and the driving enjoyment on closed-off circuits. "Master" offers an extremely neutral vehicle balance, low steer angle requirement and more agile steering. In this way, "Master" ensures maximum agility and fully exploits the dynamic potential.
Closer to motor racing than ever before: the new AMG GT R PRO
The new limited-edition Mercedes-AMG GT R PRO is characterized by further improved driving dynamics, in particular on the racetrack. Experience gained from the AMG GT3 and AMG GT4 racing cars was influential in its development. The improvements from motorsport can be clustered in four areas: suspension, lightweight construction, aerodynamics and appearance.
Suspension: the optimal set-up
The new AMG coil-over suspension offers even more choice for tailoring the set-up to the particular track. As in professional motorsport, the driver is not only able to set the spring preload length mechanically, but can now also adjust the compression and rebound of the dampers. This is done quickly and precisely without tools via a click system with an integrated adjustment dial on the damper. The compression rate is adjusted separately for high-speed and low-speed movements. This means that the settings can be dialed-in for slow and fast compression movements as is common practice in motorsport. This allows influencing the body dive and roll as well as the traction of the AMG GT R PRO even more selectively.
The front axle is fitted with an adjustable torsion bar made of lightweight carbon fiber. Its counterpart at the rear is made of steel, and is likewise adjustable and also saves weight due to its hollow tube design.
The AMG GT R is already fitted with Uniball spherical bearings at the lower wishbones of the rear axle. The AMG GT R PRO now gets these bearings for the upper wishbones as well. They are significantly more wear-resistant than conventional wishbone bearings and due to their design have no play, which means toe-in and camber do not change even under high loads. As a result, the AMG GT R PRO can be driven with even more precision.
The carbon-fiber shear panel in the underbody of the rear end also contributes to the high handling precision. This lightweight and rigid element stiffens the rear-end structure and as a result adds even more stability to the body shell.
The electronically controlled dynamic engine and transmission mounts were also retuned to further increase the agility and deliver high-precision response and clear feedback.
Lightweight construction: carbon-fiber components and new forged wheels
In addition to a host of carbon-fiber components, weight is saved by making the ceramic composite high-performance braking system standard. And exclusively for the AMG GT R PRO, the brake calipers will be painted black with white lettering. The lightweight AMG Performance Twin 5-spoke forged wheels are exclusively painted titanium gray and feature a rim flange with high-sheen finish.
Aerodynamics: redesigned front apron with additional flics
Aerodynamic fine-tuning increases the overall performance of the AMG GT R PRO as well. The redesigned front apron was fitted with two flics at the sides made of clear-coated carbon fiber. The lower flics transition virtually seamlessly into the front splitter, which was extended further forward and is held by small metal braces - they stabilize the front splitter at higher speeds. Additionally, they are another visual homage to the GT3 and GT4 role models from motorsport.
The air slots in the front fenders effectively vent the wheel arches and contribute to reducing front-axle lift. At the rear, a clear-coated carbon-fiber aero element at the wheel arch on either side rises up vertically almost to the level of the tail lamps. The combination of all these measures significantly reduces front-axle lift without negatively impacting the aerodynamic conditions at the rear axle.
The active aerodynamics profile in the underbody, the AIRPANEL active air regulation system in the front apron and the large spoiler on the hatch, all known from the AMG GT R, are part of the standard specification. In addition, the rear spoiler is fitted with a spoiler lip, which increases downforce at the rear axle, and now sits on milled aluminum brackets that underscore the proximity to motor racing.
Motor racing looks: Carbon Package, new carbon-fiber roof, unique wrap
The AMG GT R PRO doesn't only drive like a racing car, it also looks the part. The standard-fit Carbon Packages I and II with front splitter, fins in the fenders, trim strips in the side sills, side mirrors, rear spoiler, and a diffuser with high-quality clear-coated carbon-fiber finish emphasize the proximity to motorsport, as does the redesigned carbon-fiber roof with lowered center.
The special status is also underscored by the unique vehicle wrap with racing stripes running over the hood, roof and hatch as well as along the sides of the vehicle. This wrap is light green exclusively in combination with the selenite gray magno paint finish. For all other color variants, the stripes come in a dark gray matte. Optionally, the car wrap can also be omitted completely.
Even before the world premiere, the new AMG GT R PRO has impressively demonstrated its performance potential on the racetrack: In early November,
AMG brand ambassador and AMG GT3 racing driver Maro Engel completed a circuit of the Nürburgring North Loop in exactly 7.04.632 minutes driving a still disguised AMG GT R PRO. This considerably bettered the previous time for the AMG GT R and demonstrated the great potential of the current AMG flagship model.
The record lap was measured precisely by the independent experts of "wige SOLUTIONS." An independent notary confirmed the lap time, and that the vehicle's condition was in accordance with regulations.
11-29-2018, 09:36 AM
#165
Moderator
11-30-2018, 09:53 AM
#166
Moderator
https://www.carscoops.com/2018/11/me...-still-coming/
At the 2018 LA Auto Show, Mercedes-AMG dropped the cover off the updated two-door GT models.
These are led by the new AMG GT R Pro, a track-focused version of the GT R with some racing DNA running through its veins.
With the unveiling of the Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro, one would be justified to believe that there would be no new Black Series. But they would be wrong, because it was confirmed by the Affalterbach-based brand’s head honcho, Tobias Moers, once again.
“It’s not the new Black Series, to be honest”, Moers told RoadAndTrack about the new GT R Pro. “It’s a track-enhanced version of the GT R, which was always part of the program.” However, the big announcement came in the form of three letters: “Yep”, as that’s what the AMG boss said when asked if a new Black Series is coming.
Moers didn’t say much more about the upcoming GT Black Series (or is it GT R Black Series?), but he did add that prototypes are currently being tested on the track. Also, they’re bound to hit the Nurburgring in mid-2019, and “you can easily recognize it”.
In all likelihood, the new Black Series model will be launched in 2020, as that date was hinted by Moersearlier this year.
Power will come from the familiar twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8, which will be massaged to deliver more than the GT R’s 577 HP. In the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe S, the unit churns out 640 PS (630 hp / 470 kW) and 900 Nm (664 lb-ft) of torque, but we’ll just have to wait and see what AMG has in store for the reborn Black Series coupe.
These are led by the new AMG GT R Pro, a track-focused version of the GT R with some racing DNA running through its veins.
With the unveiling of the Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro, one would be justified to believe that there would be no new Black Series. But they would be wrong, because it was confirmed by the Affalterbach-based brand’s head honcho, Tobias Moers, once again.
“It’s not the new Black Series, to be honest”, Moers told RoadAndTrack about the new GT R Pro. “It’s a track-enhanced version of the GT R, which was always part of the program.” However, the big announcement came in the form of three letters: “Yep”, as that’s what the AMG boss said when asked if a new Black Series is coming.
Moers didn’t say much more about the upcoming GT Black Series (or is it GT R Black Series?), but he did add that prototypes are currently being tested on the track. Also, they’re bound to hit the Nurburgring in mid-2019, and “you can easily recognize it”.
In all likelihood, the new Black Series model will be launched in 2020, as that date was hinted by Moersearlier this year.
Power will come from the familiar twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8, which will be massaged to deliver more than the GT R’s 577 HP. In the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe S, the unit churns out 640 PS (630 hp / 470 kW) and 900 Nm (664 lb-ft) of torque, but we’ll just have to wait and see what AMG has in store for the reborn Black Series coupe.
11-30-2018, 12:14 PM
#167
Not sure how I feel about the 4-door coupe. Looks like a CLS at first glance.
GTR Pro though, which nut do they want, left or right?
GTR Pro though, which nut do they want, left or right?
11-30-2018, 12:33 PM
#168
Moderator
Agreed, not sure why they need the CLS and the GT 4-door coupe/sedan.
My dealer had a CLS53 in the showroom
My dealer had a CLS53 in the showroom
03-07-2019, 12:03 PM
#169
Moderator
03-07-2019, 12:19 PM
#170
Those wheels belong in the '90s
03-07-2019, 01:15 PM
#171
Moderator
Agreed, I like them, but think they work so much better on something like a W210 E55 or W202 C36/C43
03-08-2019, 12:01 PM
#173
Senior Moderator
Yikes. They do have the throwback design elements and they do take me back to the 80’s. But, they do not seem to fit with the new vehicle designs.
And you bet your bottom dollar they are hearing about it.
And you bet your bottom dollar they are hearing about it.
03-10-2019, 06:27 AM
#174
Safety Car
I heard it handles extremely well and has endless power. But I hate the grille, I hate the rear end, I hate the headlights, and I HATE the wheels. I don’t think I like anything about the exterior looks
the monoblock wheels are cool but do NOT belong on this car. It’s a low slung sweeping design. These wheels should be on a ‘blocky’ car/suv. Messed up thing is MB knows they don’t belong on this car at all, and still did it to sell out to the ‘rapper’ appeal. Those wheels are a throwback to the big body S class. OG status R Kelly, 50 Cent in Get Rich or Die Trying, Jermaine Dupri etc etc.
the monoblock wheels are cool but do NOT belong on this car. It’s a low slung sweeping design. These wheels should be on a ‘blocky’ car/suv. Messed up thing is MB knows they don’t belong on this car at all, and still did it to sell out to the ‘rapper’ appeal. Those wheels are a throwback to the big body S class. OG status R Kelly, 50 Cent in Get Rich or Die Trying, Jermaine Dupri etc etc.
04-09-2019, 02:31 PM
#175
Race Director
04-09-2019, 03:38 PM
#176
It's okay I guess.
04-11-2019, 11:55 AM
#177
Moderator
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/04/me...o-on-steroids/
The 2020 Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro went into production last month, but fans looking for something even more extreme have to wait a bit longer.
We’re of course talking about the highly anticipated Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series which will serve as the pinnacle of the company’s sports car lineup. Mercedes has been talking about the model for years and it’s inching closer to production as spy photographers have snapped a prototype on the Nürburgring.
While the model shares a number of similarities with the GT R Pro, there are some of significant differences. Starting up front, the Black Series has unique canards which flow through the air intakes and connect to the Panamericana grille surround. The model also has beefier support brackets for the front lip spoiler.
Moving further back, there’s an additional canard above the front fender vents. The model also has unique side skirts which are more streamlined than those on the GT R Pro. The front and rear brake calipers also appear larger and they have an eye-catching bronze finish.
The rear of the prototype largely carries over from the GT R Pro, aside from the missing side fins and temporary exhaust system. While it obviously isn’t finished, we can expect a handful of changes on the road-going model.
Power will be provided by a twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 engine. There’s no word on what it will be rated at, but the Black Series should be more powerful the GT R Pro which has 577 hp (430 kW / 585 PS) and 516 lb-ft (700 Nm) of torque. It could also be more powerful than the GT 63 S four-door coupe which has a twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 with 630 hp (470 kW / 639 PS) and 664 lb-ft (900 Nm) of torque.
Regardless of the final output, Mercedes-AMG CEO Tobias Moers has suggested the GT Black Series will be launched in 2020.
We’re of course talking about the highly anticipated Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series which will serve as the pinnacle of the company’s sports car lineup. Mercedes has been talking about the model for years and it’s inching closer to production as spy photographers have snapped a prototype on the Nürburgring.
While the model shares a number of similarities with the GT R Pro, there are some of significant differences. Starting up front, the Black Series has unique canards which flow through the air intakes and connect to the Panamericana grille surround. The model also has beefier support brackets for the front lip spoiler.
Moving further back, there’s an additional canard above the front fender vents. The model also has unique side skirts which are more streamlined than those on the GT R Pro. The front and rear brake calipers also appear larger and they have an eye-catching bronze finish.
The rear of the prototype largely carries over from the GT R Pro, aside from the missing side fins and temporary exhaust system. While it obviously isn’t finished, we can expect a handful of changes on the road-going model.
Power will be provided by a twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 engine. There’s no word on what it will be rated at, but the Black Series should be more powerful the GT R Pro which has 577 hp (430 kW / 585 PS) and 516 lb-ft (700 Nm) of torque. It could also be more powerful than the GT 63 S four-door coupe which has a twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 with 630 hp (470 kW / 639 PS) and 664 lb-ft (900 Nm) of torque.
Regardless of the final output, Mercedes-AMG CEO Tobias Moers has suggested the GT Black Series will be launched in 2020.
04-11-2019, 04:15 PM
#178
Moderator
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...r-nurburgring/
If you simply saw a picture of the Mercedes-AMG GT above, you'd probably assume it was the upcoming Black Series. Just look at its super-aggressive aerodynamic package. But watching video of this car testing at the Nürburgring casts doubt on that theory because it does not sound like it has a V-8.
The video comes to us from YouTuber CvdZijden, who captured this mysterious AMG GT during an Industry Pool test session at the 'Ring. They speculate that this GT has the M256 inline-six used in AMG's 53-series cars, and that certainly seems like a likely scenario. The sound is quite muted, almost like a four-cylinder, and you can hear a turbocharger blow-off valve quite prominently.
An AMG GT with the 53-series straight-six would make sense—it would likely lower the barrier of entry for the sports car from the $112,700 it sits at today. A 3.0-liter motor like this would be good for markets like China, where cars are taxed based on engine displacement.
It's a killer engine, too, with an electric motor on the crank that replaces the traditional starter and alternator and an electric compressor run off a 48-volt battery system. In the 53-series cars, it makes 429 horsepower, and 384 lb-ft of torque. Not massive numbers in the world of $100,000-plus sports cars, but the throttle response from the electric motor and compressor is extraordinary.
But what's puzzling is all these aero components on what could possibly be the entry-level version of the AMG GT. Note the big splitter with grille-mounted supports and dive planes ahead of the front wheels. It even looks like there's a dive plane at the back of the front fender, just ahead of the door. This prototype is also wearing the AMG GT R's "Green Hell Magno" paint, and it looks like it has a similar diffuser and wing, too.
It's a mystery. There's, of course, a possibility that this prototype is just a mashup of different things, and not representative of a car meant for public consumption. Perhaps AMG is working on both a V-8-powered Black Series with an aggressive aero package and an entry-level six-cylinder GT.
The video comes to us from YouTuber CvdZijden, who captured this mysterious AMG GT during an Industry Pool test session at the 'Ring. They speculate that this GT has the M256 inline-six used in AMG's 53-series cars, and that certainly seems like a likely scenario. The sound is quite muted, almost like a four-cylinder, and you can hear a turbocharger blow-off valve quite prominently.
An AMG GT with the 53-series straight-six would make sense—it would likely lower the barrier of entry for the sports car from the $112,700 it sits at today. A 3.0-liter motor like this would be good for markets like China, where cars are taxed based on engine displacement.
It's a killer engine, too, with an electric motor on the crank that replaces the traditional starter and alternator and an electric compressor run off a 48-volt battery system. In the 53-series cars, it makes 429 horsepower, and 384 lb-ft of torque. Not massive numbers in the world of $100,000-plus sports cars, but the throttle response from the electric motor and compressor is extraordinary.
But what's puzzling is all these aero components on what could possibly be the entry-level version of the AMG GT. Note the big splitter with grille-mounted supports and dive planes ahead of the front wheels. It even looks like there's a dive plane at the back of the front fender, just ahead of the door. This prototype is also wearing the AMG GT R's "Green Hell Magno" paint, and it looks like it has a similar diffuser and wing, too.
It's a mystery. There's, of course, a possibility that this prototype is just a mashup of different things, and not representative of a car meant for public consumption. Perhaps AMG is working on both a V-8-powered Black Series with an aggressive aero package and an entry-level six-cylinder GT.
08-09-2019, 08:17 AM
#179
Moderator
https://www.motor1.com/news/364256/a...es-spy-photos/
A prototype of the hardcore coupe has now been spied undergoing hot-weather testing somewhere in southern Europe while rocking a new hood design. Far more aggressive than what the lesser GT R versions have, the Black Series has giant hood vents hinting at a more powerful engine that requires additional cooling
In the two GT R models, Mercedes-AMG has dialed the twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 to produce 577 horsepower, but we know the engine is able to produce 630 hp in the GT 63 S sedan. However, a yet-to-be-confirmed report suggests the engineers from Affalterbach will massage the engine to develop more than 700 hp. The hot rumor from late April comes from someone who claims to have the Black Series on order and has published a document proving he’s patiently waiting for the ultimate GT version
While we obviously can’t rely on what an unknown person says, Motor Trend did publish an article back in November 2018 hinting at something similar. AMG’s boss Tobias Moers told the publication the Black Series will go after the Porsche 911 GT2 RS and the McLaren 720S, which have 700 hp and 710 hp, respectively. In the same article, MT suggested 750 hp “is certainly within the realm of what’s possible,” so expect the Black Series to pack quite the punch
The menacing prototype also had a different front bumper compared to the existing GT R versions, along with dual exhaust tips at the corners of the rear bumper. Chances are it did not have all of the final production bits as we think the wing at the back will go through some changes for the Black Series
When it debuts in 2020, expect the Black Series to command a massive premium over the $200,645 Mercedes-AMG is asking for the aforementioned GT R Pro. The latter is strictly limited to 750 cars, and we won’t be too surprised if the Black Series will be even more exclusive to justify what will surely be an eye-watering price tag.
The twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 lurking from underneath is rumored to have 700+ hp.
AMG GT, AMG GT S, AMG GT C, AMG GT R, and the limited-run AMG GT R Pro. That’s how many versions of the high-performance coupe Mercedes-AMG is offering, plus roadster versions for all of them with the exception of the Pro. Come 2020, we’ll meet the meanest of them all as next year the folks from Affalterbach will revive the Black Series moniker last used for the 2014 SLS AMG GT Black SeriesA prototype of the hardcore coupe has now been spied undergoing hot-weather testing somewhere in southern Europe while rocking a new hood design. Far more aggressive than what the lesser GT R versions have, the Black Series has giant hood vents hinting at a more powerful engine that requires additional cooling
In the two GT R models, Mercedes-AMG has dialed the twin-turbo 4.0-liter V8 to produce 577 horsepower, but we know the engine is able to produce 630 hp in the GT 63 S sedan. However, a yet-to-be-confirmed report suggests the engineers from Affalterbach will massage the engine to develop more than 700 hp. The hot rumor from late April comes from someone who claims to have the Black Series on order and has published a document proving he’s patiently waiting for the ultimate GT version
While we obviously can’t rely on what an unknown person says, Motor Trend did publish an article back in November 2018 hinting at something similar. AMG’s boss Tobias Moers told the publication the Black Series will go after the Porsche 911 GT2 RS and the McLaren 720S, which have 700 hp and 710 hp, respectively. In the same article, MT suggested 750 hp “is certainly within the realm of what’s possible,” so expect the Black Series to pack quite the punch
The menacing prototype also had a different front bumper compared to the existing GT R versions, along with dual exhaust tips at the corners of the rear bumper. Chances are it did not have all of the final production bits as we think the wing at the back will go through some changes for the Black Series
When it debuts in 2020, expect the Black Series to command a massive premium over the $200,645 Mercedes-AMG is asking for the aforementioned GT R Pro. The latter is strictly limited to 750 cars, and we won’t be too surprised if the Black Series will be even more exclusive to justify what will surely be an eye-watering price tag.
08-09-2019, 08:40 AM
#180
Ex-OEM King
I'm excited for depreciation to take its toll on the AMG GT, would love to have one.
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08-09-2019, 10:31 AM
#181
Moderator
Definitely seems the most liveable of the trio (SLR, SLS, AMG GT)
I think I'd have one over pretty much the entire current MB catalog of 2-seaters/coupes.
I think I'd have one over pretty much the entire current MB catalog of 2-seaters/coupes.
09-09-2019, 03:54 PM
#182
Moderator
https://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-benz/2020-amg_gt_r/
[img]https://www.netcarshow.com/Mercedes-Benz-AMG_GT_R-2020-ig.jpg/img]
For model year 2020, the top athlete from Affalterbach now comes to the starting line honed even further, and with the new limited edition AMG GT R PRO. In addition to exterior updates, the two-door AMG GT Coupes and Roadsters will be fitted with the AMG DYNAMICS integrated driving control system for added agility, a new AMG Performance steering wheel, the center console with innovative display buttons from the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe and a fully digital instrument display with exclusive AMG "Superport" display style on the instrument cluster. The AMG GT R PRO was modified in numerous details to deliver even more racetrack performance: The lightweight construction, new suspension and aerodynamic fine-tuning result in even more downforce overall. Lightweight-design wheels also contribute to the enhanced driving dynamics and faster lap times on the racetrack.
"The AMG GT embodies the core of our brand, "Driving Performance," in a unique way. At its debut four years ago, it not only turned the heads of customers and sports car enthusiasts, but also created new dimensions in the competitive environment. In order to continue this success story, we have now equipped it with numerous innovations from the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe and added a new limited-edition model: No other current production Mercedes- AMG is as close to motor racing as the new AMG GT R PRO. A lot of experience from our current GT3 and GT4 motorsport activities entered into its development.
The agile responses to all driver commands and the overall performance now deliver even more of that incomparable feeling that our racing drivers experience on the track," says Tobias Moers, Chairman of the Management Board of Mercedes-AMG GmbH.
"The AMG GT embodies the core of our brand, "Driving Performance," in a unique way. At its debut four years ago, it not only turned the heads of customers and sports car enthusiasts, but also created new dimensions in the competitive environment. In order to continue this success story, we have now equipped it with numerous innovations from the AMG GT 4-Door Coupe and added a new limited-edition model: No other current production Mercedes- AMG is as close to motor racing as the new AMG GT R PRO. A lot of experience from our current GT3 and GT4 motorsport activities entered into its development.
The agile responses to all driver commands and the overall performance now deliver even more of that incomparable feeling that our racing drivers experience on the track," says Tobias Moers, Chairman of the Management Board of Mercedes-AMG GmbH.
09-09-2019, 05:29 PM
#183
Fahrvergnügen'd
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ealerId=587355
03-11-2020, 09:22 AM
#184
Moderator
https://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-benz/2020-amg_gt4/
363 races, 137 podium finishes, 151 class wins and 53 overall wins: the record of the Mercedes-AMG GT4 since its market launch in 2018 is quite impressive. In the past two years, the 'little brother' of the Mercedes-AMG GT3 advanced to one of the most successful cars in the booming GT4 segment worldwide. So far, the performance and sports car brand from Affalterbach has delivered more than 120 examples of the race car to Customer Racing Teams all over the world. With the new edition of the GT4 that will be racing globally at tracks from March 2020 onwards, Mercedes-AMG even further extends the already high level of competitiveness of its successful model.
03-27-2020, 07:41 AM
#185
Moderator
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...ne-142185.html
Nobody knows how the R-based special edition of the Mercedes-AMG GT will be called. What is certain, however, is that the Black Series nameplate will come back after a long hiatus. More to the point, the last time that Mercedes-Benz and AMG produced a Black Series was in 2015 in the guise of the C 63 with the 6.2-liter naturally aspirated V8 engine.
Supercars for Sale, a website that’s specialized in selling exotica as well as build slots, calls the newcomer Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series. These people expect 700 horsepower or thereabout from the dry-sump V8 with a hot-vee setup we know from other GT models, but then again, some people suggest that AMG took a different approach.
Double Apex, a motoring publication from South Africa, has learned from “sources very close to the factory” that Mercedes-AMG retained the block and heads of the engine while switching to a more conventional twin-turbo arrangement, featuring two snails on either side of the eight-cylinder blunderbuss. These changes should translate to “530 kW and 800 Nm,” or otherwise said, 711 horsepower (721 PS) and 590 pound-feet of torque.
As with the GT R and GT R Pro, the Black Series will send the goodies to the rear axle with the help of a dual-clutch transmission. The wider, semi-slick tires should drop the acceleration time to “under three seconds” and the top speed is estimated at more than 320 km/h.
The SLS AMG Black Series from a few years back lost 154 pounds (70 kilograms) over the non-Black Series, meaning that the newcomer should follow suit with fewer creature comforts and extra-thin glass. Looking at the bigger picture, Mercedes-AMG has to drop the curb weight in order to compete against the likes of the Porsche 911 GT2 RS and more mainstream supercars such as the McLaren 720S (530 kW) and Ferrari 488 Pista (also 530 kW).
On that note, there are two questions that haven’t been answered yet. First and foremost, will the special V8 engine find its way under the hood of other models? And secondly, how rare will this Black Series be?
Supercars for Sale, a website that’s specialized in selling exotica as well as build slots, calls the newcomer Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series. These people expect 700 horsepower or thereabout from the dry-sump V8 with a hot-vee setup we know from other GT models, but then again, some people suggest that AMG took a different approach.
Double Apex, a motoring publication from South Africa, has learned from “sources very close to the factory” that Mercedes-AMG retained the block and heads of the engine while switching to a more conventional twin-turbo arrangement, featuring two snails on either side of the eight-cylinder blunderbuss. These changes should translate to “530 kW and 800 Nm,” or otherwise said, 711 horsepower (721 PS) and 590 pound-feet of torque.
As with the GT R and GT R Pro, the Black Series will send the goodies to the rear axle with the help of a dual-clutch transmission. The wider, semi-slick tires should drop the acceleration time to “under three seconds” and the top speed is estimated at more than 320 km/h.
The SLS AMG Black Series from a few years back lost 154 pounds (70 kilograms) over the non-Black Series, meaning that the newcomer should follow suit with fewer creature comforts and extra-thin glass. Looking at the bigger picture, Mercedes-AMG has to drop the curb weight in order to compete against the likes of the Porsche 911 GT2 RS and more mainstream supercars such as the McLaren 720S (530 kW) and Ferrari 488 Pista (also 530 kW).
On that note, there are two questions that haven’t been answered yet. First and foremost, will the special V8 engine find its way under the hood of other models? And secondly, how rare will this Black Series be?
04-16-2020, 07:44 AM
#186
Race Director
06-16-2020, 08:47 AM
#187
Moderator
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/16/...-straight-six/
Mercedes-AMG is expanding the GT 4-Door lineup toward the bottom by launching an entry-level model named 43 for the 2021 model year. It's been available overseas since 2018, but it's never been sold in America before.
It takes an eagle-eyed car spotter (or someone with access to the DMV's registration documents) to tell the 43 apart from the 53, which is the next model up in the hierarchy. They're so similar that the press images released by Mercedes-AMG (pictured above) to accompany the 43 announcement show the 53. We checked, and that's intentional; a spokesperson told us the two cars are nearly identical except for the badges. It's the same story inside, where both sedans offer a slanted center console that reminds us of the GT coupe's and four seats.
The biggest and most noteworthy difference between the two GTs is found in the engine bay. In AMG-speak, the 43 emblem denotes a 3.0-liter straight-six that generates 382 horsepower between 5,500 and 6,100 rpm and 369 pound-feet of torque over a broad band that stretches from 1,800 to 4,500 rpm. Called EQ Boost, the 48-volt mild hybrid system increases those figures by up to 21 and 184, respectively, while a nine-speed automatic transmission sends the full output to the four wheels via AMG's 4Matic+ variable all-wheel drive system. Zero to 60 mph takes 4.8 seconds, a figure which makes the 43 about half a second slower than the 429-horsepower 53. Fuel economy figures will be published closer to its on-sale date.
Close the hood, and the 43 is again closely related to the 53. It comes standard with six-piston brake calipers, an adaptive suspension, a surround-sound system developed by Burmester, a power-operated rear spoiler, and the touchscreen-based MBUX infotainment system. Extra-cost options include numerous alloy wheel designs, an executive rear-seat package, and an upgraded sound system also made by Burmester.
Mercedes-AMG priced the GT 43 4-Door at $90,950 including a mandatory $1,050 destination charge. Deliveries will start in late 2020. In comparison, the GT 53 — which is the current entry-level model — carries a base price of $100,990 while the range-topping GT 63 S starts at $163,250. Both of these figures include destination.
Looking ahead, the GT 4-Door range will grow in the opposite direction when AMG releases a 73-badged model powered by an 805-horsepower plug-in hybrid drivetrain built around a twin-turbocharged, 4.0-liter V8 engine. It will offer an electric range of about 31 miles. It's expected to make its global debut within the next 12 months.
It takes an eagle-eyed car spotter (or someone with access to the DMV's registration documents) to tell the 43 apart from the 53, which is the next model up in the hierarchy. They're so similar that the press images released by Mercedes-AMG (pictured above) to accompany the 43 announcement show the 53. We checked, and that's intentional; a spokesperson told us the two cars are nearly identical except for the badges. It's the same story inside, where both sedans offer a slanted center console that reminds us of the GT coupe's and four seats.
The biggest and most noteworthy difference between the two GTs is found in the engine bay. In AMG-speak, the 43 emblem denotes a 3.0-liter straight-six that generates 382 horsepower between 5,500 and 6,100 rpm and 369 pound-feet of torque over a broad band that stretches from 1,800 to 4,500 rpm. Called EQ Boost, the 48-volt mild hybrid system increases those figures by up to 21 and 184, respectively, while a nine-speed automatic transmission sends the full output to the four wheels via AMG's 4Matic+ variable all-wheel drive system. Zero to 60 mph takes 4.8 seconds, a figure which makes the 43 about half a second slower than the 429-horsepower 53. Fuel economy figures will be published closer to its on-sale date.
Close the hood, and the 43 is again closely related to the 53. It comes standard with six-piston brake calipers, an adaptive suspension, a surround-sound system developed by Burmester, a power-operated rear spoiler, and the touchscreen-based MBUX infotainment system. Extra-cost options include numerous alloy wheel designs, an executive rear-seat package, and an upgraded sound system also made by Burmester.
Mercedes-AMG priced the GT 43 4-Door at $90,950 including a mandatory $1,050 destination charge. Deliveries will start in late 2020. In comparison, the GT 53 — which is the current entry-level model — carries a base price of $100,990 while the range-topping GT 63 S starts at $163,250. Both of these figures include destination.
Looking ahead, the GT 4-Door range will grow in the opposite direction when AMG releases a 73-badged model powered by an 805-horsepower plug-in hybrid drivetrain built around a twin-turbocharged, 4.0-liter V8 engine. It will offer an electric range of about 31 miles. It's expected to make its global debut within the next 12 months.
06-16-2020, 09:33 AM
#188
Moderator
Further diluting the nomenclature.
So now a _43 AMG is a TTV6 except in the GT, where it's an I6T hybrid.
IMO, make the 43 the 53 & change the 53 to a 53S ala 63/63S.
Unless they're hybridizing the _43 class cars.
06-16-2020, 10:01 AM
#189
Ex-OEM King
I can't imagine someone spending $90k on a car would balk at spending another $10k to get the better model.
06-17-2020, 04:20 PM
#190
Team Owner
take a look at the price difference between 840i xdrive and M850i... only 15k difference in MSRP ($20k difference at Base trim)... it is like 2 different cars in equipment, looks and performance
Yet plenty of ppl buy 840i.. there are plenty of "posers" out there.. Even tho you cant really say you are poor when you can afford a 90k car... but there are different level of posers in different social classes..
It is more about i drive an AMG GT... rather than i drive a AMG GT 53 or 63...
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06-17-2020, 04:41 PM
#191
Ex-OEM King
People buying the 840 vs the M850 are the ones leasing it. Guessing the lease terms/payments on the 840 are a lot more favorable. Not to mention dealer discounts and willingness to deal on price.
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06-17-2020, 05:08 PM
#192
Team Owner
I think the buying/ lease takes between 840 and M850 are very similar...
I thought the AMG GT 4 door was supposed to be a more "exclusive" model, but the moment the introduced the 53 and now even the 43.. it has became just another mainstream model that are open to lease to pretty much everyone..
the line between CLS and AMG GT is getting smaller and smaller.
I thought the AMG GT 4 door was supposed to be a more "exclusive" model, but the moment the introduced the 53 and now even the 43.. it has became just another mainstream model that are open to lease to pretty much everyone..
the line between CLS and AMG GT is getting smaller and smaller.
06-18-2020, 06:44 AM
#193
Moderator
I can't see the AMG GT & CLS existing together long-term.
That said, I see fewer CLS on the road than I used to & have only seen maybe 3 AMG GT 4-door.
That said, I see fewer CLS on the road than I used to & have only seen maybe 3 AMG GT 4-door.
06-18-2020, 12:24 PM
#194
Team Owner
That segment is already a niche market... having 2 models competing with each other does not make sense..
07-09-2020, 07:04 AM
#195
Moderator
https://www.carscoops.com/2020/07/th...pretty-badass/
A host of images showing the long-awaited 2021 Mercedes-AMG GT R Black Series have surfaced on social media, revealing the car’s bold exterior design.
Mercedes-AMG has been feverishly testing the flagship variant of the AMG GT at the Nurburgring for months now. It is the most track-focused version of the car and the spiritual successor to the brutal Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series. The design is wild, to say the least.
Located at the front is an enlarged Panamericana grille alongside an extended carbon fiber splitter and some subtle canards. Interestingly, the front end lacks the additional air intakes of lesser AMG GT models as the swollen front grille alone is now capable of gobbling down all the air necessary. Elsewhere, we can see the AMG GT R Black Series has a bespoke hoods with air vents and louvers on the front wheel arches.
Spin around to the sides and you will see extended side skirts and a set of matte black wheels wrapped in Michelin rubber. The bold aerodynamic changes continue at the rear with a new wing that includes a second ‘wing’ in between the two uprights. AMG has also designed a bespoke bumper and diffuser package.
Yesterday, reports surfaced that the AMG GT R Black Series’ 4.0-liter twin-turbocharged V8 engine has been upgraded to no less than 710 hp and 627 lb-ft (850 Nm) of torque. That is significantly more than the 577 hp and 516 lb-ft (700 Nm) of the GT R Pro and has allegedly been enough to send the car around the Nurburgring in 6 minutes and 58 seconds, or about 6.6 seconds quicker than the GT R Pro and 13 seconds behind the Aventador SVJ which holds the production car lap record at 6:44.97 minutes.
Mercedes-AMG has been feverishly testing the flagship variant of the AMG GT at the Nurburgring for months now. It is the most track-focused version of the car and the spiritual successor to the brutal Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series. The design is wild, to say the least.
Located at the front is an enlarged Panamericana grille alongside an extended carbon fiber splitter and some subtle canards. Interestingly, the front end lacks the additional air intakes of lesser AMG GT models as the swollen front grille alone is now capable of gobbling down all the air necessary. Elsewhere, we can see the AMG GT R Black Series has a bespoke hoods with air vents and louvers on the front wheel arches.
Spin around to the sides and you will see extended side skirts and a set of matte black wheels wrapped in Michelin rubber. The bold aerodynamic changes continue at the rear with a new wing that includes a second ‘wing’ in between the two uprights. AMG has also designed a bespoke bumper and diffuser package.
Yesterday, reports surfaced that the AMG GT R Black Series’ 4.0-liter twin-turbocharged V8 engine has been upgraded to no less than 710 hp and 627 lb-ft (850 Nm) of torque. That is significantly more than the 577 hp and 516 lb-ft (700 Nm) of the GT R Pro and has allegedly been enough to send the car around the Nurburgring in 6 minutes and 58 seconds, or about 6.6 seconds quicker than the GT R Pro and 13 seconds behind the Aventador SVJ which holds the production car lap record at 6:44.97 minutes.
07-09-2020, 09:29 AM
#196
Ex-OEM King
I'm sure it's a great track car but that's just a lot of stuff going on there... Not a fan of the looks, would buy normal AMG GT.
07-09-2020, 03:51 PM
#197
Still can't believe all the refinements Lamborghini did to make the Aventador (of all cars) the 'Ring lap record holder.
I think the AMG GT R is about as crazy as I would want to go. Starts looking over the top once you go past that
I think the AMG GT R is about as crazy as I would want to go. Starts looking over the top once you go past that
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07-13-2020, 05:30 PM
#198
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
07-14-2020, 10:26 AM
#199
Ex-OEM King
^ Is that shmee? Basically confirms he's buying one.
07-15-2020, 07:13 AM
#200
Moderator
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/sup...t-black-series
AMG's sixth car to wear the Black Series badge is a £330k, really quite angry thingThis is the new Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series, a car with a singular purpose: to push the boundaries of what a car wearing a number-plate can do. For example, manually extend the front splitter and you’re barred from the public road… track-only for you, sunshine. That’s how fine the line is.
Just a quick refresher then on AMG’s most hallowed badge, now on its sixth outing: “A Black Series is always a two-seater, always a hardtop,” Joerg Letzel, product manager at AMG explains. “The GT R Pro was based on the GT R, but you’ll notice there’s no ‘R’ in GT Black Series, it’s a completely different model, it represents what’s technically possible, the pinnacle of a car made for the racetrack, that can also be driven on public roads.”
In the engine bay we find AMG’s dry-sumped 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8… just not as we know it. Fitted with a lighter, flat plane crank – tech normally associated with highly strung, high-revving Italian supercars and, er, Mustang GT 350Rs – it’s a sure-fire way to drastically alter the GT’s burly character, add some whipcrack to the tachometer and make it sound like Zeus splitting the sky in two after a particularly punchy Jalfrezi. It’s also helped to liberate 720bhp at 6,700rpm (the redline stays at 7,000rpm) and 590lb ft of torque between 2,000rpm and 6,000rpm. That’s 143bhp and 74lb ft more than the GT R Pro. That’s a lot.
Some numbers for you: top speed is 202mph (4mph more than the GT R Pro, despite dragging a trestle table along behind it, the first Black Series to see the far side of 200mph), 0–62mph in 3.2 seconds (0.4 faster than the Pro), 0-124mph in under 9s and a Nürburgring lap time still to come. Anyone betting against it whooping the Aventador SVJ’s six minutes 45secs? Not us.
But hang on a minute, the AMG GT R Pro is already a bewinged, slashed, track-focused AMG GT so competent and complete that it secured a podium finish in our 2019 performance car of the year jamboree. Isn’t this just a cover of the same tune? Yes. And no. They serve similar purposes, appeal to a comparable audience, sure, but the Black Series is heavy metal to the Pro’s prog rock. Excess all areas, a Pro + 20 per cent, as far as AMG can legally, and with a clear conscience, go. And at this rarefied end of the supercar market, that’s currency.
AMG mentions the look-a-likey 911 GT2 RS, McLaren 720S and Ferrari F8 Tributo as its closest competitors – all mid- or rear-engined cars, I helpfully point out. “Yes, but the philosophy of Mercedes-AMG is front mid-engine, with a transaxle gearbox in the case of the GT. They run mid-engine and a transaxle, it’s not so different.” Apart from the AMG’s several hectares of ridged and punctured bonnet, Letzel has a point.
At each corner, like the Pro, competition-spec coilover suspension, but with electronic AMG ride control campers rather than the clicky, manually adjustable ones on the Pro. Front wheel camber and front and rear anti-roll bars are tweakable by hand, though, so you’ll at least be able to look busy at your local track day.
To be honest, we were hoping for Liberty Walk-sized integrated arch extensions (see exhibit A, the SL65 Black Series) that give these ultimate Mercs their monstrous, cartoonish quality. On close inspection there are wider arches here, but apologetic lip trims to accommodate the broader Pilot Sport Cup 2 Rs, not carbon-fibre porches at each corner. At least the rest of the bodywork isn’t holding back.
At the front: a larger grille comparable to the GT3 race car, a manually-adjustable front diffuser with two positions – street and race – and, generally, more holes than a Richard Curtis screenplay. There are louvres in the top of the wheel arches to relieve pressure and improve downforce, sideskirts like sideboards and a completely flat underfloor to sucker you onto the tarmac. No official downforce numbers forthcoming from AMG, only “significantly more than a GT R Pro”. We don’t doubt it.
Anything I’ve missed? Oh yes, the scaffolding rig of a rear wing. A double-decker, where the angle of both “blades” can be tweaked manually, but also an electronically-controlled flap on the top part that can move around automatically or be controlled manually via a button on the centre console. Amusingly, AMG’s spec sheet notes that the “large double-flow outlets in the bonnet not only discharge warm air, but also direct it past the A-pillars – this way the rear wing can be optimally flowed and can also be made smaller.” SMALLER.
Lightweighting has also occurred: there’s thinner glass for the windscreen and rear window, carbon-fibre shell bucket seats as standard, carbon bonnet, carbon wings, carbon tailgate and a stepped carbon roof. Carbon-ceramic brakes, too, and for the full Bernd Schneider an optional track package adds a titanium roll bar, four-point harnesses and a fire extinguisher. Result of this death by carbon fibre? A kerbweight of 1,540kg – 35kg less than the GT R Pro.
AMG isn’t putting a limit on production numbers for the Black Series, just a limited period in which it will build them, but it’s not cheap: £275,000 plus local taxes, so £330,000 in the UK.
For anyone with only a passing interest in cars, the AMG GT Black Series’ existence must be laughable. If demolishing racetracks is your thing, buy a race car. If you want to enjoy yourself on a B-road, a £30k hot-hatch will do a better job. If you’re only interested in flagrantly displaying your wealth, there are other, less back-breaking ways to do it. All true, but let’s just celebrate this mad, mad car for what it is: Mercedes flexing its considerable engineering muscle, taking a car launched six years ago and surgically enhancing until it becomes the ultimate expression of speed. And anger.
Just a quick refresher then on AMG’s most hallowed badge, now on its sixth outing: “A Black Series is always a two-seater, always a hardtop,” Joerg Letzel, product manager at AMG explains. “The GT R Pro was based on the GT R, but you’ll notice there’s no ‘R’ in GT Black Series, it’s a completely different model, it represents what’s technically possible, the pinnacle of a car made for the racetrack, that can also be driven on public roads.”
In the engine bay we find AMG’s dry-sumped 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8… just not as we know it. Fitted with a lighter, flat plane crank – tech normally associated with highly strung, high-revving Italian supercars and, er, Mustang GT 350Rs – it’s a sure-fire way to drastically alter the GT’s burly character, add some whipcrack to the tachometer and make it sound like Zeus splitting the sky in two after a particularly punchy Jalfrezi. It’s also helped to liberate 720bhp at 6,700rpm (the redline stays at 7,000rpm) and 590lb ft of torque between 2,000rpm and 6,000rpm. That’s 143bhp and 74lb ft more than the GT R Pro. That’s a lot.
Some numbers for you: top speed is 202mph (4mph more than the GT R Pro, despite dragging a trestle table along behind it, the first Black Series to see the far side of 200mph), 0–62mph in 3.2 seconds (0.4 faster than the Pro), 0-124mph in under 9s and a Nürburgring lap time still to come. Anyone betting against it whooping the Aventador SVJ’s six minutes 45secs? Not us.
But hang on a minute, the AMG GT R Pro is already a bewinged, slashed, track-focused AMG GT so competent and complete that it secured a podium finish in our 2019 performance car of the year jamboree. Isn’t this just a cover of the same tune? Yes. And no. They serve similar purposes, appeal to a comparable audience, sure, but the Black Series is heavy metal to the Pro’s prog rock. Excess all areas, a Pro + 20 per cent, as far as AMG can legally, and with a clear conscience, go. And at this rarefied end of the supercar market, that’s currency.
AMG mentions the look-a-likey 911 GT2 RS, McLaren 720S and Ferrari F8 Tributo as its closest competitors – all mid- or rear-engined cars, I helpfully point out. “Yes, but the philosophy of Mercedes-AMG is front mid-engine, with a transaxle gearbox in the case of the GT. They run mid-engine and a transaxle, it’s not so different.” Apart from the AMG’s several hectares of ridged and punctured bonnet, Letzel has a point.
At each corner, like the Pro, competition-spec coilover suspension, but with electronic AMG ride control campers rather than the clicky, manually adjustable ones on the Pro. Front wheel camber and front and rear anti-roll bars are tweakable by hand, though, so you’ll at least be able to look busy at your local track day.
To be honest, we were hoping for Liberty Walk-sized integrated arch extensions (see exhibit A, the SL65 Black Series) that give these ultimate Mercs their monstrous, cartoonish quality. On close inspection there are wider arches here, but apologetic lip trims to accommodate the broader Pilot Sport Cup 2 Rs, not carbon-fibre porches at each corner. At least the rest of the bodywork isn’t holding back.
At the front: a larger grille comparable to the GT3 race car, a manually-adjustable front diffuser with two positions – street and race – and, generally, more holes than a Richard Curtis screenplay. There are louvres in the top of the wheel arches to relieve pressure and improve downforce, sideskirts like sideboards and a completely flat underfloor to sucker you onto the tarmac. No official downforce numbers forthcoming from AMG, only “significantly more than a GT R Pro”. We don’t doubt it.
Anything I’ve missed? Oh yes, the scaffolding rig of a rear wing. A double-decker, where the angle of both “blades” can be tweaked manually, but also an electronically-controlled flap on the top part that can move around automatically or be controlled manually via a button on the centre console. Amusingly, AMG’s spec sheet notes that the “large double-flow outlets in the bonnet not only discharge warm air, but also direct it past the A-pillars – this way the rear wing can be optimally flowed and can also be made smaller.” SMALLER.
Lightweighting has also occurred: there’s thinner glass for the windscreen and rear window, carbon-fibre shell bucket seats as standard, carbon bonnet, carbon wings, carbon tailgate and a stepped carbon roof. Carbon-ceramic brakes, too, and for the full Bernd Schneider an optional track package adds a titanium roll bar, four-point harnesses and a fire extinguisher. Result of this death by carbon fibre? A kerbweight of 1,540kg – 35kg less than the GT R Pro.
AMG isn’t putting a limit on production numbers for the Black Series, just a limited period in which it will build them, but it’s not cheap: £275,000 plus local taxes, so £330,000 in the UK.
For anyone with only a passing interest in cars, the AMG GT Black Series’ existence must be laughable. If demolishing racetracks is your thing, buy a race car. If you want to enjoy yourself on a B-road, a £30k hot-hatch will do a better job. If you’re only interested in flagrantly displaying your wealth, there are other, less back-breaking ways to do it. All true, but let’s just celebrate this mad, mad car for what it is: Mercedes flexing its considerable engineering muscle, taking a car launched six years ago and surgically enhancing until it becomes the ultimate expression of speed. And anger.