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SamDoe1 07-12-2021 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Comfy (Post 16736703)
All of these numbers are going to take a nosedive in the coming years. Watch for it.

Why?

00TL-P3.2 07-12-2021 09:21 AM

Because ICE = :rip: :co:
:bored:

Comfy 07-12-2021 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2 (Post 16736823)
Because ICE = :rip: :co:
:bored:

Correct. And at least half of the customers from each brand are going to buys Teslas in future.

00TL-P3.2 07-12-2021 10:02 AM

Riiight. Because other mfgs offering their own BEVs is going to have no effect on Tesla sales.
And, those who don't want to go into EV ownership & still will buy ICE until they're no longer an option.

SamDoe1 07-12-2021 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Comfy (Post 16736837)
Correct. And at least half of the customers from each brand are going to buys Teslas in future.

Do you have data and evidence to support this prediction?

F23A4 08-13-2021 12:10 PM


F23A4 09-10-2021 08:58 AM

Tested: 2022 Lexus IS500 F Sport Performance Channels the Past


From the October 2021 issue of Car and Driver.

We often pine for bygone vehicles, wishing automakers would continue building the great ones forever. Some say you can never go back, but apparently Lexus isn't among them. With the 2022 IS500 F Sport Performance, the brand has reached into its catalog of hits and pulled out the more-than-decade-old, still-amazing 5.0-liter V-8 that debuted in the IS F (and continues on in the LC500) and created a V-8 sports sedan that rekindles a love we thought we'd lost.

F Sport Performance is a mouthful and the brand's new name for not-quite-F models. In this first example of the line, we get a compelling proposition of a naturally aspirated V-8 for a similar price as the turbo six-cylinders found in cars such as the Audi S4, BMW M340i, and Cadillac CT5-V.

Although it can't keep up with the quickest of today's boosted sixes, the IS is plenty competitive, taking 4.3 seconds to reach 60 mph. And the old-school auditory experience from the 472-hp V-8—up 56 horsepower from the original IS F—is well worth a few fractions of a second. Instead of playing an engine soundtrack created in a recording studio through the speakers like other modern cars might, the IS500 has an intake bypass that opens around 2800 rpm when the throttle is pinned, creating a boisterous and authentic roar as it rips up into the 7300-rpm redline.

We applaud this car's entirely unnecessary ability to rev freely to redline in neutral, bucking the trend toward a lame lower limiter while parked. Those stacked quad pipes want to holler. The Aisin eight-speed automatic bangs home shifts enthusiastically during acceleration runs, but it's neither as quick nor as smooth in everyday driving as the ZF eight-speed found in the BMW and Audi.



The chassis doesn't quite live up to the Performance label, delivering just 0.89 g of lateral stick and a suspension tune that's more in line with Lexus's cushier offerings. The relative softness means that, under hard acceleration, the car rears up dramatically. There's also the squishy brake pedal that only got more so during testing, although braking distances didn't suffer.

There's still sports-sedan competence here, as the IS500 responds well to midcorner throttle adjustments, its tail-out control is confidence inspiring, and road feel vibrates through the perforated-leather steering wheel. Trust us, the IS500 will make you want to roast the tires from a launch and fling the rear through corners, which it'll do thanks to the Torsen limited-slip differential. Should you find the limits too low, we'd suggest fitting more aggressive summer rubber than the IS's Bridgestone Potenza S001Ls.

Quiet at speed, the IS500's relaxed demeanor makes it an ultra-comfortable daily driver. As do the great seats, which offer supple comfort and bolstering support. And while it could use a bit more authority in its suspension, it has more than what it takes to handle memory lane.

F23A4 09-10-2021 12:39 PM


SSFTSX 09-10-2021 02:07 PM

tested with 19inch rims. never dare to test with 20 inch same size. by adopting non rotating tire size. already shortern the life span and adding costs. and not much lighter either.

F23A4 09-10-2021 02:13 PM


Comfy 09-10-2021 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by SSFTSX (Post 16755441)
tested with 19inch rims. never dare to test with 20 inch same size. by adopting non rotating tire size. already shortern the life span and adding costs. and not much lighter either.

And it only narrowly beats the “non-performance” version of another similar priced competitor.

SSFTSX 09-12-2021 01:19 PM

This thing has 265 rear tire width and still only pull 0.89G. The dare not put 20inch rim setup with narrower tires. it will have worse handling than Accord. Extremely poor fuel economic.
IS also has very small trunk and unlike Turbo Honda engine. there is no prospect of performance improvement.
TLX Type S after 40K miles will beat it if same tire and engine setup in straight line.

previous Lexus IS-F didnot improve. At 30K miles it eats brakes. $1200 for brakes and those were decade ago prices. now it will be closer to $2K.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-road-test/The car’s first trip to the test track, at 1050 miles, returned performance numbers that were just a hair behind the best we had achieved previously with an IS F: 0 to 60 mph in 4.4 seconds, the quarter-mile in 12.9 at 112 mph. Skidpad grip and stopping distance from 70 mph were on par at 0.91 g and 162 feet, respectively.

Thirteen months later, the IS F’s performance was nearly identical: same 0-to-60-mph time, 0.1 second quicker through the quarter-mile. Skidpad grip and braking were poorer by the smallest of margins. The 0-to-150-mph time was 25.5 seconds, 0.2 second better.

The unchanged performance is no surprise.

It was at the most expensive, 30,000-mile physical exam—oil change; air filter, cabin filter, and brake-fluid replacement; plus numerous inspections—that we learned the front brake pads and rotors had reached their wear limit. On top of the $459 service charge, we had to shell out $1161—$916 for parts alone—to replace the 14.2-inch cross-drilled rotors and pads.

SamDoe1 09-12-2021 07:59 PM

I have 20's on 235 width tires. We racing or what?

00TL-P3.2 09-13-2021 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by SamDoe1 (Post 16755909)
I have 20's on 235 width tires. We racing or what?

Why don't the skinny 18s on the 'Bu give it warp speed & amazing fuel economic?
Instead, it's a snail that guzzles fuel. :sad:


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