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Old 01-11-2009, 04:29 PM
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Looks like the love child of a civic and corolla.

As for the interior, I'm not feeling it at all..
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So my big question is: how much? How will this be priced in relation to the IS250.
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
Looks like something that should have been badged Corolla. Inside and out. It looks like it's ready to compete with the CSX. I guess Lexus has decided to move down-market to attract sales.
This is a better pic of the interior. It actually does look very high end and futuristic

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Originally Posted by (Cj)
This is a better pic of the interior. It actually does look very high end and futuristic

No, it actually doesn't. It will only get worse with the production model.
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Ewwwwwww!

Originally Posted by grondie
Looks like the love child of a civic and corolla.

As for the interior, I'm not feeling it at all..
You took the words right out of my mouth! This thing is HIDEOUS! It just looks like a BAD imitation of the Civic! What is up with that front window that is a shameless copy of the Civic? What is up with that grille, which is also straight out of a Honda designer's hands? Oh, my goodness, and that protruding dashboard is just horrific...

Lexus is pushing out one ugly car after another.... first the RX, now this horrendous mess! My goodness, and some of you are still complaining that the TL is ugly!? ROTFLOL
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
No, it actually doesn't. It will only get worse with the production model.
It looks worse in that pic. Reminds me of something I'd expect in a minivan or something, not a luxury sedan.
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interesting to hear responses here.
personally i'm not a fan but i know this will be a big success.

theres a huge eco friendly market out there who can afford better than a prius but drive one anyway or are looking for something a little more upscale.

half my professors who easily make 100k a year are driving prius's.

i think i'm going to convince my parents to get one of these to replace their aging 03 i4 accord sedan.
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
No, it actually doesn't. It will only get worse with the production model.
At least it has real leather wrapped on the dash versus the TSX's fake plastic aluminum crap

I think the design is outside the box and it'll definitely appeal to the average Lexus customer (middle aged women).
Old 01-11-2009, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
No, it actually doesn't. It will only get worse with the production model.
No, it actually looks pretty common. I'm sure that the materials we're looking at are very good, the the design, color choices, and lack of wood/alum/chrome makes this car look decidedly plain. If the car had any badge besides Lexus (and especially an American badge), everyone would notice the very weird design and a sea of gray plastic covering the center console and dash.
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Originally Posted by infamous425
If i'm buying hybrid i'll take the ford fusion hybrid and 43mpg
+ 1
Old 01-11-2009, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by (Cj)
This is a better pic of the interior. It actually does look very high end and futuristic

This does look pretty futuristic , if your dash is meant for ski jumping. Not feeling the interior or exterior, but Lexus enthusiasts/loyalists will like it as it isn't too offensive
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Originally Posted by (Cj)
At least it has real leather wrapped on the dash versus the TSX's fake plastic aluminum crap

I think the design is outside the box and it'll definitely appeal to the average Lexus customer (middle aged women).
Lol. Please don't pretend that the leather dash is going to see production. You would be fooling yourself if you did.

This interior will be the worst Lexus interior (design and quality wise) ever. The center console was taken straight from the Nissan Quest and the interior plastics will probably be just as bad. "Ecological Plastics"? Funny how Lexus didn't mention anything about QUALITY regarding this material. Meaning it will be just as bad as the recycled-newspaper based material that is being used in the Yaris.

This thing goes head-to-head with the Acura CSX.

The sad part of this all is that Lexus actually DID put some effort into it. It's not just badge engineered like the LX570 or RX350. This is their example of what a dedicated Lexus Hybrid should look like. Unfortunately, I can't see anybody truly really liking this car, unless your name is 1SICKLEX.
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I would rather get the Honda Insight if I had to get a hybrid.... reported to get 60+ mpg by a blog!

Now if only Acura could make one, sans fugly ass guillotine grill.
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
I would rather get the Honda Insight if I had to get a hybrid.... reported to get 60+ mpg by a blog!

Now if only Acura could make one, sans fugly ass guillotine grill.
I think a Acura based CR-Z would be even better
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How would Acura have a car based on another car that doesn't even exist yet?

So typical of a troll. When they can't defend their purpose, change the subject!
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
How would Acura have a car based on another car that doesn't even exist yet?

So typical of a troll. When they can't defend their purpose, change the subject!
Are you talking about vtec lol? The CR-Z is still coming based on Honda's year end statement. An Acura version would be a good replacement for the RSX also. High end high tech etc.
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Originally Posted by (Cj)
Are you talking about vtec lol? The CR-Z is still coming based on Honda's year end statement. An Acura version would be a good replacement for the RSX also. High end high tech etc.
How about you swallow this Corolla/Lexus before you get a hard-on for an Acura CR-Z. Acura has shown no interest in replacing the RSX. The whole point of discontinuing the RSX was to exit that end of the market. You don't discontinue a good selling car just for the hell of it.
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Originally Posted by VTEC Racer
How about you swallow this Corolla/Lexus before you get a hard-on for an Acura CR-Z. Acura has shown no interest in replacing the RSX. The whole point of discontinuing the RSX was to exit that end of the market. You don't discontinue a good selling car just for the hell of it.
For God's sake it was just an idea.
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
I'm not that crazy about the exterior. The front, particularly the grille, looks like the Ford Fusion grille which I don't like. The rear resembles a Corolla. It's a little odd looking, to be honest.
In general, . The front end reminds me of the Focus actually with a 9-3ish rear.....which is not a complement.
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Toyota: Learn something from Ford......

When you build a Hybrid.....it should look beautiful like a NORMAL vehicle.

(See the Ford Fusion Hybrid)
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Toyota: Learn something from Ford......

When you build a Hybrid.....it should look beautiful like a NORMAL vehicle.

(See the Ford Fusion Hybrid)
While that is what many of us would like, remember that lots of people who buy hybrids want to stand out to other drivers, to show off their environmentalism and progressive driving habits.
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it's like the new Toyota Avensis. The same car. And it's not a compliment. Ugly like no other.
Shame on you Lexus.
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It will sell ALOT. That's for sure. And that's what matters the most to any business out there.
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I should add more.....

Regardless of its controversial looks, again, this car will sell. The main idea and intention behind this car seem very promising at this point. The timing of launching this vehicle should be perfect as well. Today, the whole go-green-movement has been well-established throughout most of business industries. (Hybrid vehicles for the automotive industry, obviously) Consumers just love it.

In addition, Lexus already has a huge basis of VERY loyal customers and has established enough brand resonance to capitalize on. It's kinda like Apple, imo. They can build pretty much anything and sell them well.

Correct me, if i'm wrong. I'd like to learn.
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Originally Posted by krio
it's like the new Toyota Avensis. The same car. And it's not a compliment. Ugly like no other.
Shame on you Lexus.
You called it, it's an Avensis: http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/10...es-photos.html

They should have based it on the wagon version and sold it as a mini-CUV (HX 250h?) as it's a lot less awkward looking.

The interior looks like it was taken from the original Prius with a bit of wood and leather added. The new Prius looks cheaper on the inside. I think Lexus dealers got upset at Toyota for selling $30k Priuses and asked Toyota to make the new Prius cheaper while making a new dedicated model for Lexus to capture the folks who will pay top dollar for a hybrid economy car.

I hope Honda doesn't decide to do the same thing. Of all the cynical, brand-destroying things they could do to Acura...
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Toyota: Learn something from Ford......

When you build a Hybrid.....it should look beautiful like a NORMAL vehicle.

(See the Ford Fusion Hybrid)
That didn't exactly work out too well for the now discontinued Honda Accord Hybrid.
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Well, the HS is hitting the showrooms now. Out of curiosity, I went to lexus.com and built one.

They want $48k for an HS250h premium with "technology package and additional options."



I can't wrap my head around this car. It has a lot of technology, yes, but it's insanely expensive for something that looks like a last gen Corolla and only gets 35 mpg. Not to mention the interior is sparse, to say the least. Disappointing.
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Originally Posted by spurfan15
While that is what many of us would like, remember that lots of people who buy hybrids want to stand out to other drivers, to show off their environmentalism and progressive driving habits.
+1, that's one of the reason Toyota has had more sales/success with the Prius versus the Camry Hybrid.

Also cue the lack of success for the Honda Civic and Accord hybrids. Although Honda's hybrid's are not really true hybrids like Toyota's (electric motor assisted gas motors).
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+1, that's one of the reason Toyota has had more sales/success with the Prius versus the Camry Hybrid.
I know people like to knock environmentalists, but I'd take the Prius over the Camry hybrid for a few simple and practical reasons:
1) folding rear seats
2) higher milage

I also happen to think the Prius looks better, especially the new one.


This Lexus hybrid has cheap materials and design for a simple reason: keep costs down. It's supposed to be a luxury Prius, and because of the costs of the hybrid system they had to cut corners somewhere.
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Post Lexus Recalls Hybrid Over Risk Of Pinto-Like Explosion

Yow...

From here: http://jalopnik.com/5573014/lexus-re...yline=true&s=i

We've exclusively obtained this document detailing the plan to voluntarily recall all 17,000 2010 Lexus HS250hs following NHTSA testing showing excessive fuel leakage after a standard rear-end collision.

The document seen here is the Noncompliance Information Report filed by Lexus with NHTSA. It details the substantial difference between what Lexus found in its own testing and what NHSTA's tests returned. The voluntary recall places a stop sale on all dealer vehicles and advises consumers to call with their concerns. What it doesn't do is lay out a fix for the problem, which is similar to the fuel spillage issue Ford faced with the Pinto in the mid-1970s.
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Oye.............. What is going on with toyota.
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