Kia: Stinger News
11-07-2018 | 02:17 PM
#370
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Hey, remember when the Kia Stinger sold 16,000 units and the RLX hasn't hit that number yet since it's inception?
And I quote:
Doing the math... The RLX started selling in 2013 and still hadn't hit 16k units 
And I quote:
Overall sales of the Acura RLX are weak at less than 5,000 units in its first year sales in 2013 and then on a sharp downward trend every year thereafter with 2016 hitting just under 1,500 units in the United States and Canada combined. We don’t see it turning around. With sales dropping over 30% each year since its launch we say that Acura has to go back to the drawing board here
11-07-2018 | 03:58 PM
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It's an exotic. Like the RLX. It's exclusive. You need to be invited to buy one. By Gawd himself. Stop comparing apples vs. immortals.
11-07-2018 | 04:01 PM
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You can't be exclusive if you sold too many..... They were going for the exclusivity.
11-07-2018 | 04:14 PM
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...-stinger-price
As it enters its second model year, the Kia Stinger is getting a slightly higher price across the board, but a few additional pieces of standard equipment help keep its value equation strong. The 2019 Stinger now starts $750 to $2000 higher than last year, depending on trim level, but nearly each model has added content to make up for those differences.
The base four-cylinder Stinger, priced at $33,895, now includes blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert as standard, along with the nicer-looking 18-inch wheels from the Stinger Premium. There's a new Sun & Sound package offered for $3000 that adds a sunroof, LED headlights, a larger touchscreen, and a premium audio system. The base Stinger's V-6–powered equivalent, the 365-hp Stinger GT, now costs $40,095. It also adds those safety features as standard, and the rear-wheel-drive version now gets a standard limited-slip differential, previously a $200 option.
The Stinger Premium, which uses the same 255-hp turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine as the base car, rises to $40,095, a $2000 price increase. The Premium now comes standard with all of the active-safety features included in the previously optional $2000 Drive Wise package. Cooled front seats and a wireless phone charging pad are now standard, too. The V-6–powered GT1, for $45,100, adds all these features as standard, too.
For an all-in price of $50,985 for 2019, the fully loaded Stinger GT2 adds a 360-degree camera and heated rear seats. All trim levels still offer all-wheel drive as a $2200 option, meaning the most expensive version of a Stinger you can get from the factory is a GT2 AWD with extra-cost paint, which rings in at $53,680.
Kia had previously announced a limited-run special edition of the 2019 Stinger called the Atlantica, but Kia spokesman Neil Dunlop said that model has been "put on hold indefinitely."
The base four-cylinder Stinger, priced at $33,895, now includes blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert as standard, along with the nicer-looking 18-inch wheels from the Stinger Premium. There's a new Sun & Sound package offered for $3000 that adds a sunroof, LED headlights, a larger touchscreen, and a premium audio system. The base Stinger's V-6–powered equivalent, the 365-hp Stinger GT, now costs $40,095. It also adds those safety features as standard, and the rear-wheel-drive version now gets a standard limited-slip differential, previously a $200 option.
The Stinger Premium, which uses the same 255-hp turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine as the base car, rises to $40,095, a $2000 price increase. The Premium now comes standard with all of the active-safety features included in the previously optional $2000 Drive Wise package. Cooled front seats and a wireless phone charging pad are now standard, too. The V-6–powered GT1, for $45,100, adds all these features as standard, too.
For an all-in price of $50,985 for 2019, the fully loaded Stinger GT2 adds a 360-degree camera and heated rear seats. All trim levels still offer all-wheel drive as a $2200 option, meaning the most expensive version of a Stinger you can get from the factory is a GT2 AWD with extra-cost paint, which rings in at $53,680.
Kia had previously announced a limited-run special edition of the 2019 Stinger called the Atlantica, but Kia spokesman Neil Dunlop said that model has been "put on hold indefinitely."
11-07-2018 | 04:15 PM
#375
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Not a bad update. A Base 2.0Toy wouldn't be a bad DD with the Sun & Sound, for the LED headlights.
Adding the cooled seats to the 2.0 Premium is a nice touch too, along with making the $2k Tech pkg standard.
Adding the cooled seats to the 2.0 Premium is a nice touch too, along with making the $2k Tech pkg standard.
11-07-2018 | 05:12 PM
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But, snarking aside, I've seen a couple of the Stingers on the road recently. Very good looking in-person...albeit, I'm not seeing them as frequently as some of the peeps in here are reporting but I have seen my first 2 the last couple of weeks. Love the way it looks.
Albeit, what's interesting indeed are the drivers...older demographic.
Albeit, what's interesting indeed are the drivers...older demographic.
11-07-2018 | 05:19 PM
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and 
in your area? Cuz, the drivers I saw were Caucasian. So, dunno...I'm not at all profiling the demographics but merely just commenting here. TBH, I am unsure if my kind would be willing to go into a "Kia"...we are typically a more "shallow" culture and depend on namebrands with inflated prices.
11-07-2018 | 06:58 PM
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or is buying an Asian vehicle, you know it's one of either Toyota/Honda/Nissan or their extended brands (i.e. Lexus/Acura/Infiniti)... And it's possible where I live, that the demographics sorta facilitate that. Still, even in my travels, I have to admit, while I'm not actively looking, I do not see many Asians purchasing Hyundais and Kia. So, while I will openly admit to being impressed by the Stinger...the shallow-
in me will probably not ever let me buy one? I dunno. I have to mull over it but that's my official answer right now.
11-07-2018 | 08:21 PM
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Newsflash, Asians are waisis
Plenty of my older family members wouldn't buy a Korean car out of principle. Not so much because of its origin but rather its historical perception and prestige level.
Hyundai? lol.
Kia?
Though in all seriousness, they were quite impressed by the K900 when we went to Korea. Still wouldn't buy one though.
Plenty of my older family members wouldn't buy a Korean car out of principle. Not so much because of its origin but rather its historical perception and prestige level.
Hyundai? lol.
Kia?
Though in all seriousness, they were quite impressed by the K900 when we went to Korea. Still wouldn't buy one though.
11-07-2018 | 08:32 PM
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Newsflash, Asians are waisis
Plenty of my older family members wouldn't buy a Korean car out of principle. Not so much because of its origin but rather its historical perception and prestige level.
Hyundai? lol.
Kia?
Though in all seriousness, they were quite impressed by the K900 when we went to Korea. Still wouldn't buy one though.
Plenty of my older family members wouldn't buy a Korean car out of principle. Not so much because of its origin but rather its historical perception and prestige level.
Hyundai? lol.
Kia?
Though in all seriousness, they were quite impressed by the K900 when we went to Korea. Still wouldn't buy one though.
Just wacist. And a shallow snob.
11-07-2018 | 09:51 PM
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My biggest problem with Korean cars is their poor residual values. They seem to be more reliable than I initially thought. Performance on the Stinger is great, too - more than enough for most. It's really a solid bargain.
11-08-2018 | 02:43 AM
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11-08-2018 | 10:25 AM
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11-08-2018 | 11:31 AM
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Possibly. Do you have lots of and in your area?
Cuz, the drivers I saw were Caucasian. So, dunno...I'm not at all profiling the demographics but merely just commenting here. TBH, I am unsure if my kind would be willing to go into a "Kia"...we are typically a more "shallow" culture and depend on namebrands with inflated prices.
and in your area?Cuz, the drivers I saw were Caucasian. So, dunno...I'm not at all profiling the demographics but merely just commenting here. TBH, I am unsure if my kind would be willing to go into a "Kia"...we are typically a more "shallow" culture and depend on namebrands with inflated prices.
As good as Stinger is... it would be very hard for an
to spend 50k on a KIA, when they can get a 320 and save $20k... as funny as that may sound... It is a very real.Of course there are exceptions. But Generally speaking..
I have a lot of a Korean friends and NONE of them drives Kia or Hyundai and when i recommend those brand to them.... they gave me the stare and thought i was crazy.... So yah go figure.
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11-08-2018 | 11:32 AM
#395
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Finance deals were trash but the lease deals were great. I wouldn't buy a Stinger in any case, I'd lease just because the resale value will really suck.
11-08-2018 | 01:31 PM
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11-08-2018 | 01:40 PM
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True, but I drive too much for a lease. And I plan on keeping the C for a long time, would've been the same for the Stinger/GTI had I gone that route.
11-08-2018 | 01:49 PM
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11-08-2018 | 04:46 PM
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Kia is not a luxury brand what's your point of bringing an Audi up? Luxury brands depreciate much faster than mainstream brands so I was comparing apples to apples not apples to oranges.