Kia: K9/K900 News
03-06-2014, 11:57 AM
#161
Team Owner
if you ignore the brand, it is actually worth 90k.
03-06-2014, 12:21 PM
#162
No. No. I'm going to make a kneejerk perception of the car based on the badge. I don't that care I've never driven it, I'm going to pull an assumption out of my ass.
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03-06-2014, 04:15 PM
#163
I happen to agree with that, and I think it's because of cars like the Soul that Kia pushes like crazy.
Hyundai has been carefully crafting a more "premium" image than Kia in their advertising. I still think in the end, Hyundai and Kia need to roll out a "Luxury" badge though. I have a hard time believing that the BMW/Mercedes/etc crowd will be able to look past the badge on the hood. The K900 seems to check off the right boxes, I just can't see too many of these people admitting to their 5-series/E-class driving friends that they drive a Kia.
Hyundai has been carefully crafting a more "premium" image than Kia in their advertising. I still think in the end, Hyundai and Kia need to roll out a "Luxury" badge though. I have a hard time believing that the BMW/Mercedes/etc crowd will be able to look past the badge on the hood. The K900 seems to check off the right boxes, I just can't see too many of these people admitting to their 5-series/E-class driving friends that they drive a Kia.
Hyundai and Kia may very well each end up doing a separate lux sub-brand once their luxury lineups expand but that's as far as it should go.
Otherwise, they would fall into the same trap as the Japanese, struggling to sell their RWD sedans.
Now, if you added the cost of a luxury brand and separate dealer network, would add another $12-15k to the cost (that's where the savings are).
Last edited by YEH; 03-06-2014 at 04:17 PM.
03-06-2014, 06:55 PM
#164
Fahrvergnügen'd
The Kia is only worth the money if it's not a depreciation lead balloon.
Even though it's a bigger car, if it sells for more than a 335i and is worth less than a 335i after four years and normal miles, why am I buying it?
In other words, if the Kia is $60k and sells for $30k in three years and the 335i sells for $55k and is worth $42k in three years, I'm not buying the Kia.
Even though it's a bigger car, if it sells for more than a 335i and is worth less than a 335i after four years and normal miles, why am I buying it?
In other words, if the Kia is $60k and sells for $30k in three years and the 335i sells for $55k and is worth $42k in three years, I'm not buying the Kia.
03-07-2014, 06:46 AM
#165
Senior Moderator
The Kia is only worth the money if it's not a depreciation lead balloon.
Even though it's a bigger car, if it sells for more than a 335i and is worth less than a 335i after four years and normal miles, why am I buying it?
In other words, if the Kia is $60k and sells for $30k in three years and the 335i sells for $55k and is worth $42k in three years, I'm not buying the Kia.
Even though it's a bigger car, if it sells for more than a 335i and is worth less than a 335i after four years and normal miles, why am I buying it?
In other words, if the Kia is $60k and sells for $30k in three years and the 335i sells for $55k and is worth $42k in three years, I'm not buying the Kia.
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03-23-2014, 10:43 PM
#166
Senior Moderator
Don't care about badge. The K900 is better looking than the RLX and has more features. My son would go NUTS over ventilated and heated rear seats. I sat in the K900 at the NAIAS last month and I swear to God, I did NOT want to leave that rear seat.
In a year when people are getting stellar deals because it's a slow seller, the V8 model will be officially on my radar.
In a year when people are getting stellar deals because it's a slow seller, the V8 model will be officially on my radar.
The rear seat is great. The V8 will get you to 60 in 5 seconds. But what if I told you the car had no feeling? Every review I have read claims that Kia put steering and driver response at the bottom of the priority list - that they took Lexus' and the old Caddilac's feel to a new level. Kia's idea of luxury is riding in a coffin atop a cloud. What if I told you you could never DRIVE the car? Would you still buy it?
For as much as Acura gets knocked, you can still drive their cars without dying inside. Is it worse than it used to be? Yes, but you aren't driving a boat. Bob, going from SH-AWD to a CTS-V, I can't imagine how you would cope with a car that thought you were in the back seat instead of behind the wheel.
03-23-2014, 10:46 PM
#167
Senior Moderator
Is it faster than the RLX? Does it handle better than the RLX? How much more will I shell out for gas to have that V8 lug 4,500 lb of steel around? Why do I need adaptive LEDs when the RLX puts out the most consistent and broadest light pattern on the market? Maybe the many, many other things you forgot to mention actually matter?
Last edited by oo7spy; 03-23-2014 at 10:52 PM.
03-24-2014, 10:31 AM
#168
Some dude
03-24-2014, 11:12 AM
#169
Senior Moderator
I quoted this because I know Bob loves his sports car. However, I pose this question openly to other enthusiasts as well.
The rear seat is great. The V8 will get you to 60 in 5 seconds. But what if I told you the car had no feeling? Every review I have read claims that Kia put steering and driver response at the bottom of the priority list - that they took Lexus' and the old Caddilac's feel to a new level. Kia's idea of luxury is riding in a coffin atop a cloud. What if I told you you could never DRIVE the car? Would you still buy it?
For as much as Acura gets knocked, you can still drive their cars without dying inside. Is it worse than it used to be? Yes, but you aren't driving a boat. Bob, going from SH-AWD to a CTS-V, I can't imagine how you would cope with a car that thought you were in the back seat instead of behind the wheel.
The rear seat is great. The V8 will get you to 60 in 5 seconds. But what if I told you the car had no feeling? Every review I have read claims that Kia put steering and driver response at the bottom of the priority list - that they took Lexus' and the old Caddilac's feel to a new level. Kia's idea of luxury is riding in a coffin atop a cloud. What if I told you you could never DRIVE the car? Would you still buy it?
For as much as Acura gets knocked, you can still drive their cars without dying inside. Is it worse than it used to be? Yes, but you aren't driving a boat. Bob, going from SH-AWD to a CTS-V, I can't imagine how you would cope with a car that thought you were in the back seat instead of behind the wheel.
(bmws have been accused of this lack of feedback and feeling as of late too)
03-24-2014, 01:38 PM
#171
Senior Moderator
That the light pattern is broad and consistent. It's a pretty straightforward idea. Adaptive headlights are helpful when the high intensity portion of the light beam is not in the intended path. With 8 LEDs, the RLX doesn't suffer from portions of the light being a higher intensity than other parts. The light distribution is even and covers a broad area including the turns that adaptive headlights aim to cover.
Honestly, my post had no intentions of arguing the RLX is better or the best. I was only pointing out that the reasons used against it have little to no merit to the argument.
I understand that. The question was posed to people here who like to drive their cars and are saying they would consider a K900. Plenty of old farts with sore joints love a numb ride. This is an element of car critique that goes largely overlooked yet has a significant importance to a lot of drivers.
Honestly, my post had no intentions of arguing the RLX is better or the best. I was only pointing out that the reasons used against it have little to no merit to the argument.
I understand that. The question was posed to people here who like to drive their cars and are saying they would consider a K900. Plenty of old farts with sore joints love a numb ride. This is an element of car critique that goes largely overlooked yet has a significant importance to a lot of drivers.
Last edited by oo7spy; 03-24-2014 at 01:45 PM.
03-24-2014, 02:34 PM
#173
The Kia is only worth the money if it's not a depreciation lead balloon.
Even though it's a bigger car, if it sells for more than a 335i and is worth less than a 335i after four years and normal miles, why am I buying it?
In other words, if the Kia is $60k and sells for $30k in three years and the 335i sells for $55k and is worth $42k in three years, I'm not buying the Kia.
Even though it's a bigger car, if it sells for more than a 335i and is worth less than a 335i after four years and normal miles, why am I buying it?
In other words, if the Kia is $60k and sells for $30k in three years and the 335i sells for $55k and is worth $42k in three years, I'm not buying the Kia.
Well, KBB has the Optima as the 2nd best in its segment for resale and the Cadenza 3rd.
Now, the K900 will lose a good bit more of its value due to its pricepoint (as higher priced cars tend to do - see depreciation of the S Class), as well as due to some nice discounting from dealerships (so while that will hurt resale value down the road, a buyer, in effect, gets the savings up front).
03-25-2014, 10:37 AM
#174
Team Owner
Is it faster than the RLX? Does it handle better than the RLX? How much more will I shell out for gas to have that V8 lug 4,500 lb of steel around? Why do I need adaptive LEDs when the RLX puts out the most consistent and broadest light pattern on the market? Maybe the many, many other things you forgot to mention actually matter?
Matter to who? the 350 buyers of RLX or the 99.99% of rest of the $60K+ sedan buyers?
Is it faster? i don't know and i don't think people who buy K900 really care about 0-60. Handle? i am not sure but no one cared about how LS430 or 7 Series handles.
More importantly, NO ONE gives a shit about gas when you buy a 60k+flagship sedan and they shouldn't. well maybe except for Acura buyers.
You know what those 60k buyers care about? Road Presence, Comfort, Luxury items, big V8 regardless how slow it might be, as long as they can feel the torque and Brand. These define luxury flagship sedans, not acceleration or how it handles and RLX failed in pretty much everything that defines a BIG luxury sedan.
You don't have to agree with me but the sale #s speak for themselves.
How often do you hear about how 7 series or LS430 or S class handle or accelerate? Because the targeted customers don't care.
03-25-2014, 10:40 AM
#175
Team Owner
That the light pattern is broad and consistent. It's a pretty straightforward idea. Adaptive headlights are helpful when the high intensity portion of the light beam is not in the intended path. With 8 LEDs, the RLX doesn't suffer from portions of the light being a higher intensity than other parts. The light distribution is even and covers a broad area including the turns that adaptive headlights aim to cover.
Honestly, my post had no intentions of arguing the RLX is better or the best. I was only pointing out that the reasons used against it have little to no merit to the argument.
I understand that. The question was posed to people here who like to drive their cars and are saying they would consider a K900. Plenty of old farts with sore joints love a numb ride. This is an element of car critique that goes largely overlooked yet has a significant importance to a lot of drivers.
Honestly, my post had no intentions of arguing the RLX is better or the best. I was only pointing out that the reasons used against it have little to no merit to the argument.
I understand that. The question was posed to people here who like to drive their cars and are saying they would consider a K900. Plenty of old farts with sore joints love a numb ride. This is an element of car critique that goes largely overlooked yet has a significant importance to a lot of drivers.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 03-25-2014 at 10:43 AM.
03-25-2014, 02:09 PM
#176
Fahrvergnügen'd
I would be looking for quality, looks, value, handling in that order for this kind of sedan. Lots of subjectivity in that list. But, I would say that Acura is not a slam dunk for quality and certainly not on the concept of value if both cars cost the same.
03-28-2014, 02:16 PM
#177
Now, the next gen K900 will likely get sportier (being based on a version of the platform underpinning the new Genesis which is supposed to be sportier) - tho large sedans aren't exactly conducive to sportiness (aside from maybe the Panamera), but it will (or at least should) be the production version of the GT concept that goes for the whole sports sedan angle.
05-30-2014, 11:41 AM
#178
Senior Moderator
Sorry to take two months to reply.
A Kia has more presense, comfort, luxury items, torque and brand than the RLX Hybrid? 
Why does a big V8 with torque matter but acceleration doesn't? That's just an idiotic dick measuring contest.
You know what those 60k buyers care about? Road Presence, Comfort, Luxury items, big V8 regardless how slow it might be, as long as they can feel the torque and Brand. These define luxury flagship sedans, not acceleration or how it handles and RLX failed in pretty much everything that defines a BIG luxury sedan.
Why does a big V8 with torque matter but acceleration doesn't? That's just an idiotic dick measuring contest.
05-30-2014, 11:52 AM
#179
Fahrvergnügen'd
It matters until it doesn't. Once a car gets beyond a certain acceleration I think it's deemed "adequate" and then move along to something else. And yes, it's a dick-measuring contest. If it wasn't there'd be no need for a V12 S-Class when a twin-turbo six-cylinder with 450hp would be more than adequate.
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05-30-2014, 12:47 PM
#180
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
We should just disregard RLX at this point. It's a gigantic failure. Who cares if something is better than RLX?
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05-30-2014, 01:04 PM
#181
RLX Hybrid
- Zero to 60 mph: 5.3 sec
- Standing ¼-mile: 13.9 sec
- Top speed: 130 mph
K900
- Zero to 60 mph: 5.5 sec
- Zero to 100 mph: 13.2 sec
- Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec
- Top speed: 150 mph
So out of 5, K900 bests RLX Hybrid in 3 and ties in 1.
Last edited by AZuser; 05-30-2014 at 01:11 PM.
05-30-2014, 01:32 PM
#182
Some dude
Considering the RLX Hybrid probably won't even come out this year its safe to say the K900 isn't going to have to worry about competition from Acura.
05-30-2014, 02:03 PM
#183
05-30-2014, 02:51 PM
#184
Senior Moderator
05-30-2014, 04:30 PM
#185
Team Owner
You obviously had never rode or drove the K900, Equus. or probably seen 1 up close.
I suggest you to to Hyundai and Kia dealer to take a look at those cars, sit in it. You will see the difference between Presence, comfort, luxury items in K900 and Equus are not even in the same league as RLX.
05-30-2014, 11:49 PM
#186
Maybe not on brand prestige, but yes on presence, comfort, and luxury items. RLX Hybrid only has 1 lb-ft more torque than K900 (377 lb-ft vs 376 lb-ft) and is only marginally faster, so that's more or less a tie.
RLX Hybrid
K900
So out of 5, K900 bests RLX Hybrid in 3 and ties in 1.
RLX Hybrid
- Zero to 60 mph: 5.3 sec
- Standing ¼-mile: 13.9 sec
- Top speed: 130 mph
K900
- Zero to 60 mph: 5.5 sec
- Zero to 100 mph: 13.2 sec
- Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec
- Top speed: 150 mph
So out of 5, K900 bests RLX Hybrid in 3 and ties in 1.
even the Hyundai genesis V8 5.0takes 13.7 seconds to quarter mile. and getting only 16mpg.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...an-test-review
05-31-2014, 12:33 AM
#187
you do realize this is just estimates from C&D they haven't tested the actual vehicles.
even the Hyundai genesis V8 5.0 takes 13.7 seconds to quarter mile. and getting only 16mpg.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...an-test-review
even the Hyundai genesis V8 5.0 takes 13.7 seconds to quarter mile. and getting only 16mpg.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...an-test-review
Motortrend's K900 test shows
There's no doubt this is the quietest Kia ever -- mere snippets of freeway wind noise and subdued road noise seep in. Objectively, it's less than 2 percent louder than a Rolls-Royce Ghost (good company to keep) on the sones scale at a 65-mph cruise. It's definitely peaceful if you're a sane, normal driver delighting in the car's relaxing character. But stand harder on the gas pedal, and the 5.0-liter V-8 easily spins up the rear 275/40R19 Hankook Optimo H426s, sending the K900 V8 from 0 to 60 mph in 5.5 seconds and 0-100 mph in 13.0 seconds. The engine and exhaust notes sing as the speedometer registers ever-higher values, and the mechanical soundtrack is neither alluring nor grating. The V-8 is one of the main differentiators between the K900 and the K9/Quoris -- the overseas model presses a port-injected 3.8-liter V-6 into service, an engine not offered in the U.S. since 2012.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz33GcYwDRm
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz33GcYwDRm
Unless............
Acura's delaying the RLX Hybrid so they can tweak it and make it faster than.......
an M5?
on all season tires. :wink:
06-01-2014, 12:07 AM
#188
Team Owner
most of those K900 or RLX sold probably will never see anything over 80mpg anyways.
Seriously... comparing 1/4 time, 0-60 time are stupid already. Comparing RLX and K900 0-60 is even more stupid.
Seriously... comparing 1/4 time, 0-60 time are stupid already. Comparing RLX and K900 0-60 is even more stupid.
08-06-2014, 08:06 PM
#190
Azine Jabroni
Car and Driver Long-Term Test
2015 Kia K900 V-8
At the risk of sounding like old codgers, we must say: automakers just don’t make big, comfy, American-style sedans anymore—at least, not in America. Sportiness is in, and even corn-fed behemoths like Chrysler’s 300 and Chevrolet’s Impala exhibit levels of sharpness and poise that no Reagan-era Lincoln Town Car could imagine.
Kia’s first-ever full-size luxury sedan, the K900, winked into existence boldly bucking the trend, figuring there’s a well-heeled, silver-haired slice of buyers that values ride comfort and roominess above all else. Having set the table with the near-luxury Cadenza, not to mention its always-improving mainstream lineup, Kia dialed up the luxury for its K900 flagship. What better way to assess the company’s initial crack at a $50,000-plus luxury ride than to have our enthusiast staff evaluate a car tuned so unapologetically for comfort?
One Korean Town Car, Hold the Live Axle, Please
Kia launched the K900 with a V-8 engine—a V-6 joins the ranks later—a decision we dig, since plus-size, rear-drive sedans deserve a V-8 engine. And so our long-termer arrived equipped with the 420-hp “Tau” 5.0-liter borrowed from Hyundai. The whole car, in fact, is more or less borrowed from Hyundai: The eight-speed automatic, base V-6 engine, and the underlying platform are adapted from the previous-generation Genesis. (The 2015 Genesis is an all-new piece.) Size-wise, the K900 falls directly between the outgoing Genesis and that car’s larger sibling, the Hyundai Equus. It’s beefy.
Beefy also describes the car’s base price, which at $60,400 includes a veritable cornucopia of luxury features such as a panoramic sunroof, adaptive full-LED headlights, LED running lights, rain-sensing windshield wipers, three-zone automatic climate control, Lexicon surround-sound audio, nappa leather interior trim, real wood accents, heated front and outboard rear seats, ventilated front chairs, and navigation. Standard safety gear includes blind-spot detection, rear cross-traffic alert, and lane-departure warning.
Our sole optional add-on, the $6000 VIP package, is the only available option. It adds a driver’s seat-cushion extension, power front-seat headrests, power-reclining rear seats with adjustable lumbar, ventilation for the outboard rear seating positions, a 12.3-inch TFT digital gauge cluster, a head-up display, and a 360-degree surround-view parking-assist camera. The grand total came to $66,400, which is a heck of a lot for a Kia but a run-of-the-mill tab compared with, say, moderately equipped versions of mid-size German luxury sedans such as the BMW 5-series or Audi A6.
Rivulets of Wiggleness
Any comparisons with German luxury sedans end when the K900 is put in motion. The big 4670-pound Kia has a propensity for “wiggling” over even the slightest road ripples. This is the price of compliance, as the K900 effectively tames harsh impacts and irons out even the rudest road surfaces. But like a ship heading into moderate swells, the Kia subtly bobs through two or three up-down motions following a bump. Stab the soft brake pedal to the floor, and the windshield fills with pavement as the S.S. K900’s bow plunges down. Stops from 70 mph come in as little as 179 feet, which is about average for something this huge, but the body’s squishy concept of control means emergency stops that are slightly dramatic.
Alternatively, mashing the gas pedal rockets the K900 forward with surprising alacrity, once the big ship leans back and gets on plane. The 5.0-liter V-8 moves the Kia to 60 mph in just 5.5 seconds, and the sedan can hit 149 mph. It took us a while to determine the purpose of the big, numb-feeling round thing in front of the driver. There’s very little self-centering to the steering and the driver must really pay attention to keep the big Kia in the center of a lane. A switch on the console offers the driver a choice of Eco, Normal, and Sport driving modes, which vary transmission shift mapping and steering effort, but these do nothing to improve steering feel.
Down With the Wiggle
So a Cadillac CTS-V or a BMW M5 the K900 is not, but early logbook comments seem to indicate a Zen oneness with our long-termer’s wiggletude. Peppering the car’s logbook are raves over the suspension’s ability to tame Michigan’s mighty potholes, while one editor referred to the Kia as the “nicest Lincoln Town Car ever.” The interior, too, has come in for praise for its logical control layout, fine materials, and commodious seats.
Predictably, the K900 has spent a lot of time on the highway. At 70 mph, the cabin is a 67-decibel isolation chamber; black out the windows, and only the gentle wiggling and bobbing of the body would tip off those inside that the Kia is moving at all. Just three months and more than 4000 miles into its stay, the Kia already has ventured outside of Michigan several times heading to Chicago, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Ohio. No doubt helped by all the highway miles thus far, the K900’s observed fuel economy has been a pleasant surprise as well, averaging 22 mpg to date.
The car’s long-distance popularity should get it through 40,000 miles in a timely fashion, a period during which we’ll analyze the Kia’s most intriguing aspect: its luxury-car legitimacy. As with the ill-fated Volkswagen Phaeton, is the $60,000 K900 a bridge too far, or has Kia wisely staked a claim to a slice of the luxury market abandoned by other companies? We hope to have an even better idea by the time we issue our first update. Stay tuned.
Months in Fleet: 2 months
Current Mileage: 4085 miles Average Fuel Economy: 22 mpg
Fuel Tank Size: 19.8 gallons Fuel Range: 435 miles
Service: $0 Normal Wear: $0 Repair: $0
At the risk of sounding like old codgers, we must say: automakers just don’t make big, comfy, American-style sedans anymore—at least, not in America. Sportiness is in, and even corn-fed behemoths like Chrysler’s 300 and Chevrolet’s Impala exhibit levels of sharpness and poise that no Reagan-era Lincoln Town Car could imagine.
Kia’s first-ever full-size luxury sedan, the K900, winked into existence boldly bucking the trend, figuring there’s a well-heeled, silver-haired slice of buyers that values ride comfort and roominess above all else. Having set the table with the near-luxury Cadenza, not to mention its always-improving mainstream lineup, Kia dialed up the luxury for its K900 flagship. What better way to assess the company’s initial crack at a $50,000-plus luxury ride than to have our enthusiast staff evaluate a car tuned so unapologetically for comfort?
One Korean Town Car, Hold the Live Axle, Please
Kia launched the K900 with a V-8 engine—a V-6 joins the ranks later—a decision we dig, since plus-size, rear-drive sedans deserve a V-8 engine. And so our long-termer arrived equipped with the 420-hp “Tau” 5.0-liter borrowed from Hyundai. The whole car, in fact, is more or less borrowed from Hyundai: The eight-speed automatic, base V-6 engine, and the underlying platform are adapted from the previous-generation Genesis. (The 2015 Genesis is an all-new piece.) Size-wise, the K900 falls directly between the outgoing Genesis and that car’s larger sibling, the Hyundai Equus. It’s beefy.
Beefy also describes the car’s base price, which at $60,400 includes a veritable cornucopia of luxury features such as a panoramic sunroof, adaptive full-LED headlights, LED running lights, rain-sensing windshield wipers, three-zone automatic climate control, Lexicon surround-sound audio, nappa leather interior trim, real wood accents, heated front and outboard rear seats, ventilated front chairs, and navigation. Standard safety gear includes blind-spot detection, rear cross-traffic alert, and lane-departure warning.
Our sole optional add-on, the $6000 VIP package, is the only available option. It adds a driver’s seat-cushion extension, power front-seat headrests, power-reclining rear seats with adjustable lumbar, ventilation for the outboard rear seating positions, a 12.3-inch TFT digital gauge cluster, a head-up display, and a 360-degree surround-view parking-assist camera. The grand total came to $66,400, which is a heck of a lot for a Kia but a run-of-the-mill tab compared with, say, moderately equipped versions of mid-size German luxury sedans such as the BMW 5-series or Audi A6.
Rivulets of Wiggleness
Any comparisons with German luxury sedans end when the K900 is put in motion. The big 4670-pound Kia has a propensity for “wiggling” over even the slightest road ripples. This is the price of compliance, as the K900 effectively tames harsh impacts and irons out even the rudest road surfaces. But like a ship heading into moderate swells, the Kia subtly bobs through two or three up-down motions following a bump. Stab the soft brake pedal to the floor, and the windshield fills with pavement as the S.S. K900’s bow plunges down. Stops from 70 mph come in as little as 179 feet, which is about average for something this huge, but the body’s squishy concept of control means emergency stops that are slightly dramatic.
Alternatively, mashing the gas pedal rockets the K900 forward with surprising alacrity, once the big ship leans back and gets on plane. The 5.0-liter V-8 moves the Kia to 60 mph in just 5.5 seconds, and the sedan can hit 149 mph. It took us a while to determine the purpose of the big, numb-feeling round thing in front of the driver. There’s very little self-centering to the steering and the driver must really pay attention to keep the big Kia in the center of a lane. A switch on the console offers the driver a choice of Eco, Normal, and Sport driving modes, which vary transmission shift mapping and steering effort, but these do nothing to improve steering feel.
Down With the Wiggle
So a Cadillac CTS-V or a BMW M5 the K900 is not, but early logbook comments seem to indicate a Zen oneness with our long-termer’s wiggletude. Peppering the car’s logbook are raves over the suspension’s ability to tame Michigan’s mighty potholes, while one editor referred to the Kia as the “nicest Lincoln Town Car ever.” The interior, too, has come in for praise for its logical control layout, fine materials, and commodious seats.
Predictably, the K900 has spent a lot of time on the highway. At 70 mph, the cabin is a 67-decibel isolation chamber; black out the windows, and only the gentle wiggling and bobbing of the body would tip off those inside that the Kia is moving at all. Just three months and more than 4000 miles into its stay, the Kia already has ventured outside of Michigan several times heading to Chicago, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Ohio. No doubt helped by all the highway miles thus far, the K900’s observed fuel economy has been a pleasant surprise as well, averaging 22 mpg to date.
The car’s long-distance popularity should get it through 40,000 miles in a timely fashion, a period during which we’ll analyze the Kia’s most intriguing aspect: its luxury-car legitimacy. As with the ill-fated Volkswagen Phaeton, is the $60,000 K900 a bridge too far, or has Kia wisely staked a claim to a slice of the luxury market abandoned by other companies? We hope to have an even better idea by the time we issue our first update. Stay tuned.
Months in Fleet: 2 months
Current Mileage: 4085 miles Average Fuel Economy: 22 mpg
Fuel Tank Size: 19.8 gallons Fuel Range: 435 miles
Service: $0 Normal Wear: $0 Repair: $0
10-17-2014, 09:44 AM
#191
Lebron James Shines The Spotlight On Kia's Flagship Sedan As The Brand's First-Ever Luxury Ambassador
Multi-Year Partnership Forged After James Experienced the Advanced Technology, V8 Power and World-Class Craftsmanship and Materials of the Kia K900 for Himself
• As the K900 Luxury Ambassador, James will star in advertisements for the modern and elegant sedan and make exclusive appearances
• First TV spot in Fit For A King™ campaign to debut later this month when the 2014-15 basketball season gets underway
IRVINE, Calif., October 15, 2014 – On the court, he is a ten-time NBA All-Star and the most popular athlete in the U.S.1; away from the arena he is a philanthropist, businessman and trendsetter; and today, LeBron James proudly includes a Kia K900 – the brand's first-ever rear-drive luxury sedan – among his fleet of exotic automobiles. In a multi-year partnership with Kia Motors America (KMA), James assumes the newly created role of K900 Luxury Ambassador after the avid car collector reached out to Kia – the Official Automotive Partner of the NBA – for a firsthand experience with the flagship sedan aimed at confident, independent thinkers who actively seek out new products and unique ideas from up-and-coming brands.
"I was a Kia K900 driver and fan before we decided to become partners, so I'm really excited to be Kia's first-ever luxury ambassador," said LeBron James. "This partnership is about the power of great style and performance. Kia and the K900 are out to challenge conventional wisdom and show people how to think differently, and I can relate to that. For me, a partnership has to be authentic and real to who I am, and that's what makes this one so special."
In August, James posted "Rolling around in my K900. Love this car!" online with photos of the sedan, which AMCI Testing2 recently certified as Quieter, Smoother, and Better Riding Overall than the Audi A8 4.0T, the BMW 750i and the Lexus LS460.
"As fans of the game of basketball, we were honored to learn that one of today's most influential athletes and tastemakers recognized something different was going on at Kia and wanted to check out our new flagship sedan," said Tim Chaney, vice president of marketing communications, KMA. "Like Kia, LeBron James does not want to be confined by conventions or traditional definitions, and as our K900 Luxury Ambassador his star power will cause people to question everything they think they know about our brand."
In his role, James joins Kia's roster of high-profile ambassadors, which includes fellow NBA All-Star Blake Griffin, tennis superstar Rafael Nadal, and U.S. Women's Open champion Michelle Wie.
• As the K900 Luxury Ambassador, James will star in advertisements for the modern and elegant sedan and make exclusive appearances
• First TV spot in Fit For A King™ campaign to debut later this month when the 2014-15 basketball season gets underway
IRVINE, Calif., October 15, 2014 – On the court, he is a ten-time NBA All-Star and the most popular athlete in the U.S.1; away from the arena he is a philanthropist, businessman and trendsetter; and today, LeBron James proudly includes a Kia K900 – the brand's first-ever rear-drive luxury sedan – among his fleet of exotic automobiles. In a multi-year partnership with Kia Motors America (KMA), James assumes the newly created role of K900 Luxury Ambassador after the avid car collector reached out to Kia – the Official Automotive Partner of the NBA – for a firsthand experience with the flagship sedan aimed at confident, independent thinkers who actively seek out new products and unique ideas from up-and-coming brands.
"I was a Kia K900 driver and fan before we decided to become partners, so I'm really excited to be Kia's first-ever luxury ambassador," said LeBron James. "This partnership is about the power of great style and performance. Kia and the K900 are out to challenge conventional wisdom and show people how to think differently, and I can relate to that. For me, a partnership has to be authentic and real to who I am, and that's what makes this one so special."
In August, James posted "Rolling around in my K900. Love this car!" online with photos of the sedan, which AMCI Testing2 recently certified as Quieter, Smoother, and Better Riding Overall than the Audi A8 4.0T, the BMW 750i and the Lexus LS460.
"As fans of the game of basketball, we were honored to learn that one of today's most influential athletes and tastemakers recognized something different was going on at Kia and wanted to check out our new flagship sedan," said Tim Chaney, vice president of marketing communications, KMA. "Like Kia, LeBron James does not want to be confined by conventions or traditional definitions, and as our K900 Luxury Ambassador his star power will cause people to question everything they think they know about our brand."
In his role, James joins Kia's roster of high-profile ambassadors, which includes fellow NBA All-Star Blake Griffin, tennis superstar Rafael Nadal, and U.S. Women's Open champion Michelle Wie.
10-17-2014, 10:09 AM
#192
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
LeKia?
10-17-2014, 12:24 PM
#193
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10-17-2014, 01:14 PM
#194
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10-17-2014, 02:29 PM
#195
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10-17-2014, 09:16 PM
#196
Team Owner
ooo hell no...
I am taking back everything that i have said about K900 previously..
Say say no Lekia
I am taking back everything that i have said about K900 previously..
Say say no Lekia
09-27-2018, 02:15 PM
#197
Moderator
https://www.netcarshow.com/kia/2019-k900/
Kia Motors America (KMA) unveiled the completely redesigned Kia K900 sedan at the 2018 New York International Auto Show, establishing a new standard for luxury. The all-new second-generation model combines a dignified and sophisticated exterior design, a beautifully crafted cabin of premium materials, and performance characteristics that befit a world-class flagship sedan. Reimagined in every way, the K900 brings with it an array of new systems and safety features, making it the most technologically advanced Kia ever.
"The all-new 2019 K900 is much more than a generational redesign, as it takes on a whole new look, feel and character over its predecessor. Only its name - K900 - is carried over," said Orth Hedrick, vice president, Product Planning, KMA. "Our designers and engineers have done an extraordinary job of reimagining the K900 to fully meet the needs and desires of consumers shopping in the luxury sedan segment with the promise of a tremendous value proposition that only Kia can deliver. The all-new K900 is a push into new territory and serves as further evidence this brand is moving in a forward direction."
Conceived and created in Kia's design studio in Korea with collaboration from the Irvine-based California studio, the new K900 is slated to go on sale in the U.S. during the fourth quarter of 2018.
Stately Styling
Sophisticated and stately, the entirely redesigned Kia K900 brings a new definition of premium luxury to the Kia portfolio. Although it's slightly longer and wider than the outgoing model, this K900 actually looks tighter thanks to its reimagined proportions, especially with respect to its profile. Combining a beautifully balanced design with flowing lines, tensioned surfaces and geometric details, the K900 introduces a modern air of elegance to the large sedan segment. Kia's designers were inspired by a design ethic they call 'The Gravity of Prestige,' and this all-encompassing philosophy translates to a feeling of solidity and volume in the upscale space.
Based conceptually on the ever changing shape of condensed energy, a new 'Quadric pattern' signature grille is the focal point of the K900. There are 176 jewel-like 'cells' within the grille, suggestive of released energy accelerating away from its center in the way ripples in water move away from the impact of a splash. Natural flowing lines emanate from this frontal area, rise over the hood, sweep through the flanks and culminate at the rear.
Influenced by the trajectory of light, the design of the duplex headlamps provides the K900 with a visually progressive image that establishes presence and character. Above the light housings, a floating hood design emphasizes the length, volume and balanced proportions of the car.
In profile, a satin chrome flash adds depth to the smooth bodywork, running along the base of the doors and around the lower rear section of the K900 to pull your eyes downward to the car's large and detailed 19-inch wheels. The brightwork along the window-line adds a degree of structure to the rich and exaggerated C-pillar design before it merges with the rear deck.
The rear of the Kia K900 shows off a wide stance decorated with eye-catching details. The duplex rear combi lights echo the design language of the headlights and the integrated exhaust housings are finished off with chrome.
Overall, the K900 is equal parts prestige, power and presence, embodying an appearance reminiscent of a finely tailored suit over an athlete's well-proportioned physique.
Luxury Retreat Within
Elegant by design but with a minimalist layout, the interior of the new K900 provides drivers and passengers with a peaceful retreat that is simple, modern and comfortable. The cabin wraps around the driver, enhancing the sense of being cocooned from the outside world. A tight and virtually uninterrupted line between the doors and the instrument panel creates a deliberate sense of continuity. Flowing from the center of the dash and outward to the doors, surfaces are trimmed in a sophisticated combination of materials, with metal veneers and a choice of four open pore matte wood selections - Walnut, Brown Olive Ash, Beige Olive Ash and Engineered Wood. Soft leather balances the cabin's harder natural surfaces in Black, Beige, Espresso Brown or two-tone Sienna Brown.
Kia's definition of luxury is not limited to the privileged, but there is a distinct feeling of exclusivity achieved by tasteful accents throughout this space. The handsome dash is uncluttered and ergonomic, featuring a tech-savvy instrument panel and integrated air vents. The driver helms the car with a heated leather steering wheel and a matching center console-mounted gear shift knob.
The leather-trimmed premium seat design achieves the ultimate in luxury, exuding a substantive look and feel as well as a high degree of durability thanks to extreme validation testing in the areas of UV, temperature and humidity. Premium Nappa leather also is available. The seats are well-contoured and shaped to deliver maximum support and comfort while minimizing fatigue for occupants, whether the Kia K900 is straight-line cruising over a long distance or moving ambitiously over curvy country roads. The quilting on the seat "shoulders" is to invoke the spirit of clothing worn by Korean kings throughout the country's rich history.
To compensate for both cold and warm climates, seats up front are heated and ventilated. The available 20-way adjustable driver seat is equipped with width-adjusting bolsters and lumbar support with power air cells and shoulder adjustments for exacting comfort. The front passenger can enjoy 12-way adjusters to find the ideal position.
Additionally, substantial improvements in rear seat comfort have been made over the outgoing K900. The driver side rear seat and the passenger side rear seat will offer available 12-way and 14-way adjusters, respectively, as well as reclining capability, height-adjustable headrests and forward/aft, tilt up/down cushions. Seat heat and ventilation are optional for the outboard rear seats. Enhancing back seat comfort are optional HVAC controls, which allow rear passengers to have separate fan controls from the front seat passengers.
For further comfort and relaxation, drivers can adapt the cabin of the new K900 to personal preferences with a new mood lighting system developed in conjunction with the world-renowned Pantone Color Institute. Of the 64 total colors available, Pantone created seven specific color settings, each with its own message and meaning inspired by oceans, forests, skies, the Aurora Borealis, and other aspects of nature. The lighting elements are located in key areas throughout the K900 including the overhead console, door panels and front/rear footwells. This system helps occupants immerse themselves in the cabin, making the K900 a rejuvenating space of inspiration rather than just an upscale mode of transportation. A similar approach to cabin lighting was first shown on the Telluride concept SUV.
To further elevate the mood, the Kia K900 features interaction lighting thanks to an Intelligent Lighting Control system that uses proximity sensors to brighten 20 percent when the driver's hand is sensed reaching for a switch on the dash.
Although the K900 prides itself as not being overtly luxurious, the one nod to the haute lifestyle is an analog clock specially designed and co-branded by Maurice Lacroix, a symbol of globally renowned sophistication and the pursuit of perfection in craftsmanship. This eye-catching timepiece is set in the center of the dash and tangibly elevates the prestige level of the cabin.
Tech-savvy Flagship
As expected, the all-new Kia K900 comes equipped with a wide array of advanced technology, connectivity and infotainment features. The center console features a tactile port dial that is both convenient and intuitive for driver operation of the 12.3-inch Human Machine Interface (HMI) touchscreen that displays maps, trip information, audio sources, climate controls and more. A newly designed, modem-based Premium Navigation system comes equipped with enhanced user-friendly features accessible via Kia's UVO luxe sub-brand, dedicated exclusively to K900 owners. UVO luxe offers a full suite of remote features through an embedded modem in the vehicle and accessible once the UVO account is created on the myUVO.com website and the vehicle is enrolled. UVO luxe telematics features can be used from the desktop, tablet, or dedicated UVO luxe app, and all three access points allow remote start, setting of preferred cabin temperature, or easy to use features, such as Find My Car. K900 owners are also provided with a dedicated service representative reachable through a VIP phone line. There's also full connectivity via Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, and additional convenience comes from a wireless cell phone charger.
When piloting the K900, the driver will benefit from either a high-resolution seven-inch color TFT instrument cluster or an available 12.3-inch color TFT instrument cluster with graphics differentiated by the selected drive mode - Comfort, Eco, Sport or Custom. Beyond the gauges, there's an available 9.7-inch Head Up Display (HUD), teeming with content related to speed, navigation, audio, and driver assistance systems that allows the driver to focus more of their attention on the road ahead.
As part of Kia's Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS), the K900's Surround View Monitor (SVM) utilizes four cameras providing a 360-degree perspective with stitched images that provide a seamless view. Blind Spot View Monitor (BVM) provides the driver with a live video feed of adjacent lanes in the instrument cluster and is activated via the turn signal. Utilizing the blind spot sensors, the Kia K900 also enhances visual awareness by offering a haptic steering wheel10 that can help alert the driver by way of vibration in the event of a potentially unsafe lane change if the vehicle senses the presence of another vehicle or object.
Additionally, on the ADAS technologies front, the K900 brings Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), Forward Collision Avoidance Assist (FCA) and Driver Attention Warning (DAW), the latter of which is designed to advise the driver to stop the vehicle and get rest if it detects drowsiness or fatigue while monitoring driving behavior and patterns. Other significant ADAS systems are Rear Cross Traffic Avoidance Alert (RCAA), which can automatically apply the brakes when backing up in the event it detects an object crossing a predetermined distance from the rear of the vehicle, Safe Exit Assist, which can help notify the driver or passengers if it detects potential hazards, including passing cars, bicyclists or pedestrians, when opening any door to get out of the vehicle, and Lane Follow Assist (LFA), which can provide a degree of automatic steering control in certain circumstances during Advanced Smart Cruise Control (ASCC) operation based on analyzing lane markings and radar-based front vehicle information that it detects.
A fully immersive driving experience is only complete with proper acoustics and the K900 delivers premium sound through a 900-watt 17-speaker Harman Kardon/Lexicon system, Kia's most powerful audio system ever, featuring QuantumLogic Surround Sound technology and Clari-Fi technology. QuantumLogic extracts signals from the original recording and redistributes them into an authentic, multidimensional soundstage for playback that is clear, refined and full of detail. QuantumLogic also offers selectable modes including Stereo Mode, Audience Mode and On Stage Mode, which highlights 360-degree instrumentation that will make listeners feel like they are on stage with the performing artist. Simultaneously, Clari-Fi works in real-time to rebuild audio details lost in digitally compressed music.
World-Class Powertrain
The Kia K900 has evolved into a truly sophisticated driving machine powered by a 3.3-liter twin turbo V6, the same engine found in the automaker's highly acclaimed Stinger fastback sport sedan. This world-class engine outputs 365 horsepower and 376 pound-feet of torque and was recently named to Ward's 10 Best Engines list for its exceptional responsiveness and refinement. The twin fast-spooling single scroll turbos are integrated into the exhaust manifold for enhanced durability. Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) works seamlessly in tandem, resulting in optimal and instant power delivery.
Since turbo engines typically generate more heat than non-turbo engines, a robust cooling system was required. To meet the challenge of extreme environments, Kia's development team exceeded internal targets and over-engineered a system that utilizes a wider radiator for more efficient cooling and airflow, and adopted a high-capacity 600-watt brushless electric fan motor. Aiming to provide the highest level of quality and durability, Kia conducted testing and validation in extreme environments all over the world.
The engine pairs with a second-generation in-house built 8-speed automatic transmission to manage its power in a smooth and seamless manner. The Shift-by-Wire gear selector is standard and with no required scheduled maintenance under normal conditions, the transmission is excellent for everyday driving. At the same time, this gearbox allows quick and confident shifts during more spirited driving.
For an added dose of performance, improved handling, stability and agility, the K900 is equipped with a standard full-time Dynamic Torque Vectoring Control all-wheel drive system that is rear biased and electronically controlled based on road conditions. Following the Stinger, the K900 becomes the second application of this in-house built system and elevates traction and handling to help the K900 compete against its premium European competitors. Designed to improve performance in a variety of environments, it freely distributes torque between the front and rear wheels and also can send power from side to side, depending on conditions. Should the system detect slippage, power is seamlessly directed towards the front or rear wheels, depending on the driving situation. Up to 50 percent of torque can be distributed to the front wheels, and in Sport mode, up to 80 percent of the power can be routed to the rear wheels.
Vehicle Dynamics
The sedan's performance equation was further honed with a number of enhancements under the direction of Albert Biermann, president of Kia's Vehicle Test and High Performance Development. "The goal for the K900 was to achieve 'confident comfort' on the road," stated Biermann. "To deliver this result, we focused on four main categories: drivability, NVH, comfort and steering precision."
A longer wheelbase and a wider stance provide greater control and stability, as well as an ultra-smooth ride. The chassis was strengthened over the previous K900, achieving a more rigid body with increased front and rear lateral stiffness thanks to a greater use of structural adhesives - 676 feet for the new model versus 279 feet for the outgoing K900. And with 25 hot stamped parts, the most of any Kia vehicle, the all-new K900 has four times more hot stamping than before. Torsional stiffness increased by 33 percent over the outgoing K900, helping to give the vehicle a more solid and premium on-road feel. The K900 is targeting a TSP+ rating from the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) and a five-star crash rating from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).
Aerodynamically, the Kia K900 utilizes a wheel air curtain to minimize vortices inside the wheel arches by introducing air from the bumper. In addition, full underbody panels reduce air drag by "straightening" airflow below the vehicle. And an active air flap further reduces drag depending on driving speed. The end result is a drag coefficient of .27 Cd.
And when it comes to noise, vibration and harshness (NVH), the K900 is already known for being incredibly quiet but further sound absorption remained a goal for the all-new model. This was pursued with the use of new and enhanced insulation throughout the vehicle structure, including the engine compartment firewall, the rear seat sandwich panel, under floor cover and vibration pad behind the headliner. An acoustic film on the windshield and front side glass dramatically quiets the cabin as does the use of resonance chambered wheels, plastic bands within the wheels which reduce road noise while driving.
For a large car to enjoy precise handling and a sense of nimbleness is no easy task. To that effort, the K900's four-wheel independent suspension geometry, including a new front multilink design, is aimed at delivering tighter, quicker turn-in for a more athletic and spirited driving experience. The system is designed to improve driving stability and steering agility by increasing stiffness of the front and rear axle assembly. An available Electronically Controlled Suspension (ECS) is tuned to maximize driving pleasure and increase performance. ECS helps to reduce variations in wheel load, complimenting traction and reducing chassis motions. An internal damper system utilizes wheel acceleration sensors to detect rough roads and responds by modulating the suspension setting accordingly.
The Kia K900 utilizes an electromechanical, rack-mounted power steering assembly designed to increase agility and comfort. Equipped with standard variable ratio steering, the system delivers a "slower" off-center feel, which provides a better sense of stability, especially during high-speed driving.
Smooth and linear stopping force with definitive confidence is the result of a front four-piston brake caliper design in combination with a rear two-piston brake caliper setup. Underbody cooling ducts guide air to cool the brakes and enhance performance. The system features standard Corner Brake Control and Brake Fade Compensation, which are designed to automatically increase hydraulic pressure in the braking system as the rotor temperatures rise to maintain a more consistent brake pedal feel in certain circumstances. This results in a more linear stopping feel. There's also a brake drying feature that can periodically apply the brakes (undetectable to the driver) to sweep water build-up and maintain consistent performance in certain conditions.
The cumulative effect of these various efforts is a more confident and refined driving experience sought out by discerning buyers in the luxury sedan segment.
The all-new Kia K900 will be built in South Korea at Kia's Sohari premium manufacturing facility, shared with the Stinger.
"The all-new 2019 K900 is much more than a generational redesign, as it takes on a whole new look, feel and character over its predecessor. Only its name - K900 - is carried over," said Orth Hedrick, vice president, Product Planning, KMA. "Our designers and engineers have done an extraordinary job of reimagining the K900 to fully meet the needs and desires of consumers shopping in the luxury sedan segment with the promise of a tremendous value proposition that only Kia can deliver. The all-new K900 is a push into new territory and serves as further evidence this brand is moving in a forward direction."
Conceived and created in Kia's design studio in Korea with collaboration from the Irvine-based California studio, the new K900 is slated to go on sale in the U.S. during the fourth quarter of 2018.
Stately Styling
Sophisticated and stately, the entirely redesigned Kia K900 brings a new definition of premium luxury to the Kia portfolio. Although it's slightly longer and wider than the outgoing model, this K900 actually looks tighter thanks to its reimagined proportions, especially with respect to its profile. Combining a beautifully balanced design with flowing lines, tensioned surfaces and geometric details, the K900 introduces a modern air of elegance to the large sedan segment. Kia's designers were inspired by a design ethic they call 'The Gravity of Prestige,' and this all-encompassing philosophy translates to a feeling of solidity and volume in the upscale space.
Based conceptually on the ever changing shape of condensed energy, a new 'Quadric pattern' signature grille is the focal point of the K900. There are 176 jewel-like 'cells' within the grille, suggestive of released energy accelerating away from its center in the way ripples in water move away from the impact of a splash. Natural flowing lines emanate from this frontal area, rise over the hood, sweep through the flanks and culminate at the rear.
Influenced by the trajectory of light, the design of the duplex headlamps provides the K900 with a visually progressive image that establishes presence and character. Above the light housings, a floating hood design emphasizes the length, volume and balanced proportions of the car.
In profile, a satin chrome flash adds depth to the smooth bodywork, running along the base of the doors and around the lower rear section of the K900 to pull your eyes downward to the car's large and detailed 19-inch wheels. The brightwork along the window-line adds a degree of structure to the rich and exaggerated C-pillar design before it merges with the rear deck.
The rear of the Kia K900 shows off a wide stance decorated with eye-catching details. The duplex rear combi lights echo the design language of the headlights and the integrated exhaust housings are finished off with chrome.
Overall, the K900 is equal parts prestige, power and presence, embodying an appearance reminiscent of a finely tailored suit over an athlete's well-proportioned physique.
Luxury Retreat Within
Elegant by design but with a minimalist layout, the interior of the new K900 provides drivers and passengers with a peaceful retreat that is simple, modern and comfortable. The cabin wraps around the driver, enhancing the sense of being cocooned from the outside world. A tight and virtually uninterrupted line between the doors and the instrument panel creates a deliberate sense of continuity. Flowing from the center of the dash and outward to the doors, surfaces are trimmed in a sophisticated combination of materials, with metal veneers and a choice of four open pore matte wood selections - Walnut, Brown Olive Ash, Beige Olive Ash and Engineered Wood. Soft leather balances the cabin's harder natural surfaces in Black, Beige, Espresso Brown or two-tone Sienna Brown.
Kia's definition of luxury is not limited to the privileged, but there is a distinct feeling of exclusivity achieved by tasteful accents throughout this space. The handsome dash is uncluttered and ergonomic, featuring a tech-savvy instrument panel and integrated air vents. The driver helms the car with a heated leather steering wheel and a matching center console-mounted gear shift knob.
The leather-trimmed premium seat design achieves the ultimate in luxury, exuding a substantive look and feel as well as a high degree of durability thanks to extreme validation testing in the areas of UV, temperature and humidity. Premium Nappa leather also is available. The seats are well-contoured and shaped to deliver maximum support and comfort while minimizing fatigue for occupants, whether the Kia K900 is straight-line cruising over a long distance or moving ambitiously over curvy country roads. The quilting on the seat "shoulders" is to invoke the spirit of clothing worn by Korean kings throughout the country's rich history.
To compensate for both cold and warm climates, seats up front are heated and ventilated. The available 20-way adjustable driver seat is equipped with width-adjusting bolsters and lumbar support with power air cells and shoulder adjustments for exacting comfort. The front passenger can enjoy 12-way adjusters to find the ideal position.
Additionally, substantial improvements in rear seat comfort have been made over the outgoing K900. The driver side rear seat and the passenger side rear seat will offer available 12-way and 14-way adjusters, respectively, as well as reclining capability, height-adjustable headrests and forward/aft, tilt up/down cushions. Seat heat and ventilation are optional for the outboard rear seats. Enhancing back seat comfort are optional HVAC controls, which allow rear passengers to have separate fan controls from the front seat passengers.
For further comfort and relaxation, drivers can adapt the cabin of the new K900 to personal preferences with a new mood lighting system developed in conjunction with the world-renowned Pantone Color Institute. Of the 64 total colors available, Pantone created seven specific color settings, each with its own message and meaning inspired by oceans, forests, skies, the Aurora Borealis, and other aspects of nature. The lighting elements are located in key areas throughout the K900 including the overhead console, door panels and front/rear footwells. This system helps occupants immerse themselves in the cabin, making the K900 a rejuvenating space of inspiration rather than just an upscale mode of transportation. A similar approach to cabin lighting was first shown on the Telluride concept SUV.
To further elevate the mood, the Kia K900 features interaction lighting thanks to an Intelligent Lighting Control system that uses proximity sensors to brighten 20 percent when the driver's hand is sensed reaching for a switch on the dash.
Although the K900 prides itself as not being overtly luxurious, the one nod to the haute lifestyle is an analog clock specially designed and co-branded by Maurice Lacroix, a symbol of globally renowned sophistication and the pursuit of perfection in craftsmanship. This eye-catching timepiece is set in the center of the dash and tangibly elevates the prestige level of the cabin.
Tech-savvy Flagship
As expected, the all-new Kia K900 comes equipped with a wide array of advanced technology, connectivity and infotainment features. The center console features a tactile port dial that is both convenient and intuitive for driver operation of the 12.3-inch Human Machine Interface (HMI) touchscreen that displays maps, trip information, audio sources, climate controls and more. A newly designed, modem-based Premium Navigation system comes equipped with enhanced user-friendly features accessible via Kia's UVO luxe sub-brand, dedicated exclusively to K900 owners. UVO luxe offers a full suite of remote features through an embedded modem in the vehicle and accessible once the UVO account is created on the myUVO.com website and the vehicle is enrolled. UVO luxe telematics features can be used from the desktop, tablet, or dedicated UVO luxe app, and all three access points allow remote start, setting of preferred cabin temperature, or easy to use features, such as Find My Car. K900 owners are also provided with a dedicated service representative reachable through a VIP phone line. There's also full connectivity via Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, and additional convenience comes from a wireless cell phone charger.
When piloting the K900, the driver will benefit from either a high-resolution seven-inch color TFT instrument cluster or an available 12.3-inch color TFT instrument cluster with graphics differentiated by the selected drive mode - Comfort, Eco, Sport or Custom. Beyond the gauges, there's an available 9.7-inch Head Up Display (HUD), teeming with content related to speed, navigation, audio, and driver assistance systems that allows the driver to focus more of their attention on the road ahead.
As part of Kia's Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS), the K900's Surround View Monitor (SVM) utilizes four cameras providing a 360-degree perspective with stitched images that provide a seamless view. Blind Spot View Monitor (BVM) provides the driver with a live video feed of adjacent lanes in the instrument cluster and is activated via the turn signal. Utilizing the blind spot sensors, the Kia K900 also enhances visual awareness by offering a haptic steering wheel10 that can help alert the driver by way of vibration in the event of a potentially unsafe lane change if the vehicle senses the presence of another vehicle or object.
Additionally, on the ADAS technologies front, the K900 brings Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS), Forward Collision Avoidance Assist (FCA) and Driver Attention Warning (DAW), the latter of which is designed to advise the driver to stop the vehicle and get rest if it detects drowsiness or fatigue while monitoring driving behavior and patterns. Other significant ADAS systems are Rear Cross Traffic Avoidance Alert (RCAA), which can automatically apply the brakes when backing up in the event it detects an object crossing a predetermined distance from the rear of the vehicle, Safe Exit Assist, which can help notify the driver or passengers if it detects potential hazards, including passing cars, bicyclists or pedestrians, when opening any door to get out of the vehicle, and Lane Follow Assist (LFA), which can provide a degree of automatic steering control in certain circumstances during Advanced Smart Cruise Control (ASCC) operation based on analyzing lane markings and radar-based front vehicle information that it detects.
A fully immersive driving experience is only complete with proper acoustics and the K900 delivers premium sound through a 900-watt 17-speaker Harman Kardon/Lexicon system, Kia's most powerful audio system ever, featuring QuantumLogic Surround Sound technology and Clari-Fi technology. QuantumLogic extracts signals from the original recording and redistributes them into an authentic, multidimensional soundstage for playback that is clear, refined and full of detail. QuantumLogic also offers selectable modes including Stereo Mode, Audience Mode and On Stage Mode, which highlights 360-degree instrumentation that will make listeners feel like they are on stage with the performing artist. Simultaneously, Clari-Fi works in real-time to rebuild audio details lost in digitally compressed music.
World-Class Powertrain
The Kia K900 has evolved into a truly sophisticated driving machine powered by a 3.3-liter twin turbo V6, the same engine found in the automaker's highly acclaimed Stinger fastback sport sedan. This world-class engine outputs 365 horsepower and 376 pound-feet of torque and was recently named to Ward's 10 Best Engines list for its exceptional responsiveness and refinement. The twin fast-spooling single scroll turbos are integrated into the exhaust manifold for enhanced durability. Dual Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) works seamlessly in tandem, resulting in optimal and instant power delivery.
Since turbo engines typically generate more heat than non-turbo engines, a robust cooling system was required. To meet the challenge of extreme environments, Kia's development team exceeded internal targets and over-engineered a system that utilizes a wider radiator for more efficient cooling and airflow, and adopted a high-capacity 600-watt brushless electric fan motor. Aiming to provide the highest level of quality and durability, Kia conducted testing and validation in extreme environments all over the world.
The engine pairs with a second-generation in-house built 8-speed automatic transmission to manage its power in a smooth and seamless manner. The Shift-by-Wire gear selector is standard and with no required scheduled maintenance under normal conditions, the transmission is excellent for everyday driving. At the same time, this gearbox allows quick and confident shifts during more spirited driving.
For an added dose of performance, improved handling, stability and agility, the K900 is equipped with a standard full-time Dynamic Torque Vectoring Control all-wheel drive system that is rear biased and electronically controlled based on road conditions. Following the Stinger, the K900 becomes the second application of this in-house built system and elevates traction and handling to help the K900 compete against its premium European competitors. Designed to improve performance in a variety of environments, it freely distributes torque between the front and rear wheels and also can send power from side to side, depending on conditions. Should the system detect slippage, power is seamlessly directed towards the front or rear wheels, depending on the driving situation. Up to 50 percent of torque can be distributed to the front wheels, and in Sport mode, up to 80 percent of the power can be routed to the rear wheels.
Vehicle Dynamics
The sedan's performance equation was further honed with a number of enhancements under the direction of Albert Biermann, president of Kia's Vehicle Test and High Performance Development. "The goal for the K900 was to achieve 'confident comfort' on the road," stated Biermann. "To deliver this result, we focused on four main categories: drivability, NVH, comfort and steering precision."
A longer wheelbase and a wider stance provide greater control and stability, as well as an ultra-smooth ride. The chassis was strengthened over the previous K900, achieving a more rigid body with increased front and rear lateral stiffness thanks to a greater use of structural adhesives - 676 feet for the new model versus 279 feet for the outgoing K900. And with 25 hot stamped parts, the most of any Kia vehicle, the all-new K900 has four times more hot stamping than before. Torsional stiffness increased by 33 percent over the outgoing K900, helping to give the vehicle a more solid and premium on-road feel. The K900 is targeting a TSP+ rating from the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) and a five-star crash rating from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).
Aerodynamically, the Kia K900 utilizes a wheel air curtain to minimize vortices inside the wheel arches by introducing air from the bumper. In addition, full underbody panels reduce air drag by "straightening" airflow below the vehicle. And an active air flap further reduces drag depending on driving speed. The end result is a drag coefficient of .27 Cd.
And when it comes to noise, vibration and harshness (NVH), the K900 is already known for being incredibly quiet but further sound absorption remained a goal for the all-new model. This was pursued with the use of new and enhanced insulation throughout the vehicle structure, including the engine compartment firewall, the rear seat sandwich panel, under floor cover and vibration pad behind the headliner. An acoustic film on the windshield and front side glass dramatically quiets the cabin as does the use of resonance chambered wheels, plastic bands within the wheels which reduce road noise while driving.
For a large car to enjoy precise handling and a sense of nimbleness is no easy task. To that effort, the K900's four-wheel independent suspension geometry, including a new front multilink design, is aimed at delivering tighter, quicker turn-in for a more athletic and spirited driving experience. The system is designed to improve driving stability and steering agility by increasing stiffness of the front and rear axle assembly. An available Electronically Controlled Suspension (ECS) is tuned to maximize driving pleasure and increase performance. ECS helps to reduce variations in wheel load, complimenting traction and reducing chassis motions. An internal damper system utilizes wheel acceleration sensors to detect rough roads and responds by modulating the suspension setting accordingly.
The Kia K900 utilizes an electromechanical, rack-mounted power steering assembly designed to increase agility and comfort. Equipped with standard variable ratio steering, the system delivers a "slower" off-center feel, which provides a better sense of stability, especially during high-speed driving.
Smooth and linear stopping force with definitive confidence is the result of a front four-piston brake caliper design in combination with a rear two-piston brake caliper setup. Underbody cooling ducts guide air to cool the brakes and enhance performance. The system features standard Corner Brake Control and Brake Fade Compensation, which are designed to automatically increase hydraulic pressure in the braking system as the rotor temperatures rise to maintain a more consistent brake pedal feel in certain circumstances. This results in a more linear stopping feel. There's also a brake drying feature that can periodically apply the brakes (undetectable to the driver) to sweep water build-up and maintain consistent performance in certain conditions.
The cumulative effect of these various efforts is a more confident and refined driving experience sought out by discerning buyers in the luxury sedan segment.
The all-new Kia K900 will be built in South Korea at Kia's Sohari premium manufacturing facility, shared with the Stinger.
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