Infiniti: G-Series news **Next Generation Spied (page 75)**
04-09-2010, 03:01 PM
#2681
Race Director
04-28-2010, 08:03 PM
#2682
Apparently, Edmunds says that the new G25 6MT will start at $28,750:
http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g25/...mktid=cj260233
Audi A4 - $31,500
Lexus IS250 - $31,500
BMW 328i - $33,500
Mercedes-Benz C300 - $33,600
If so, this significantly undercuts the competition. That is almost a $5k difference between it and the C300. That would also make it cheaper than a 4-cylinder TSX. I find that hard to believe. Not sure where they got that number from, unless they have insider information.
http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g25/...mktid=cj260233
Audi A4 - $31,500
Lexus IS250 - $31,500
BMW 328i - $33,500
Mercedes-Benz C300 - $33,600
If so, this significantly undercuts the competition. That is almost a $5k difference between it and the C300. That would also make it cheaper than a 4-cylinder TSX. I find that hard to believe. Not sure where they got that number from, unless they have insider information.
Last edited by DrewSRX; 04-28-2010 at 08:05 PM.
04-28-2010, 08:29 PM
#2683
Nissan can undercut Honda on Price and to certain extent Toyota.
Nissan went through bankruptcy and cost cutting. so it is highly likely that high wage senior engineers left at that time. Second it has joint platform and R&D with Renault. and now MB with engines.
I can assume that highly paid people will be with Honda and Toyata due there past 30 years profits
Nissan went through bankruptcy and cost cutting. so it is highly likely that high wage senior engineers left at that time. Second it has joint platform and R&D with Renault. and now MB with engines.
I can assume that highly paid people will be with Honda and Toyata due there past 30 years profits
04-29-2010, 07:00 AM
#2684
Race Director
The cost structure is not that much lower at Nissan that it can just lop off 5K off the G. The Nissan cost diff between the 3.7VQ in the G37 and the 2.5V6 in the G25 is probably less than 1K. If the price is really that low, they are either cutting out lots of content or are positioning this model as some sort of loss leader to pump up the volume. And while they might advertise and market that price, you are very likely never to find a model on the lot at that price.
04-29-2010, 07:59 PM
#2685
The cost structure is not that much lower at Nissan that it can just lop off 5K off the G. The Nissan cost diff between the 3.7VQ in the G37 and the 2.5V6 in the G25 is probably less than 1K. If the price is really that low, they are either cutting out lots of content or are positioning this model as some sort of loss leader to pump up the volume. And while they might advertise and market that price, you are very likely never to find a model on the lot at that price.
(I am not even going into past history of cost cutting of entire top management from 1990s).
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbi...029_103868.htm
Emergency Measures
To ensure as swift a return to profitability as possible, Ghosn said Nissan is undertaking a series of emergency measures. For instance, the company will suspend its current business plan, announced last May; cut capital expenditure by 21%; and slash labor costs in line with falling sales. "Our goal is to have positive cash flow for 2009—by any means possible," he said.
The transition will be painful. To get back in the black, Nissan plans to reduce its head count by 20,000 employees, to 215,000 worldwide, by March 2010 and reduce labor costs in what it calls high-cost countries by 20%, to $7.8 billion. The pain will be spread throughout the company. Board member salaries will be cut 10% "until the situation clearly improves," and bonuses will be cut to zero. And the company aims to implement a work-sharing scheme by the end of March and step up cost-cutting efforts. Nissan has already cut travel costs by 75% and overtime by 30%; in the new financial year that starts in April, the carmaker will seek to cut overtime by an additional 75%.
Emergency Measures
To ensure as swift a return to profitability as possible, Ghosn said Nissan is undertaking a series of emergency measures. For instance, the company will suspend its current business plan, announced last May; cut capital expenditure by 21%; and slash labor costs in line with falling sales. "Our goal is to have positive cash flow for 2009—by any means possible," he said.
The transition will be painful. To get back in the black, Nissan plans to reduce its head count by 20,000 employees, to 215,000 worldwide, by March 2010 and reduce labor costs in what it calls high-cost countries by 20%, to $7.8 billion. The pain will be spread throughout the company. Board member salaries will be cut 10% "until the situation clearly improves," and bonuses will be cut to zero. And the company aims to implement a work-sharing scheme by the end of March and step up cost-cutting efforts. Nissan has already cut travel costs by 75% and overtime by 30%; in the new financial year that starts in April, the carmaker will seek to cut overtime by an additional 75%.
Just building Nissan Patrol comparable car from Honda will easily be above $100K.
Nissan R&D budget is already half of Honda and will be further go down.
Nissan will just buy engines from MB. Nissan is agressively cutting cost.
04-29-2010, 08:05 PM
#2686
it is very good read of losses started from 1992.
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html
1992: The company posts the first pretax loss in its history as a public company; Nissan introduces the Altima small luxury sedan and the Quest minivan, the latter a joint development with Ford Motor Company.
1994: Nissan posts a loss of nearly US$2 billion.
1999: Nissan and Renault S.A. enter into a global alliance, with Renault taking a 37 percent stake in Nissan. A massive restructuring begins.
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...y-History.html
1992: The company posts the first pretax loss in its history as a public company; Nissan introduces the Altima small luxury sedan and the Quest minivan, the latter a joint development with Ford Motor Company.
1994: Nissan posts a loss of nearly US$2 billion.
1999: Nissan and Renault S.A. enter into a global alliance, with Renault taking a 37 percent stake in Nissan. A massive restructuring begins.
04-29-2010, 08:36 PM
#2687
Apparently, Edmunds says that the new G25 6MT will start at $28,750:
http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g25/...mktid=cj260233
Audi A4 - $31,500
Lexus IS250 - $31,500
BMW 328i - $33,500
Mercedes-Benz C300 - $33,600
If so, this significantly undercuts the competition. That is almost a $5k difference between it and the C300. That would also make it cheaper than a 4-cylinder TSX. I find that hard to believe. Not sure where they got that number from, unless they have insider information.
http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g25/...mktid=cj260233
Audi A4 - $31,500
Lexus IS250 - $31,500
BMW 328i - $33,500
Mercedes-Benz C300 - $33,600
If so, this significantly undercuts the competition. That is almost a $5k difference between it and the C300. That would also make it cheaper than a 4-cylinder TSX. I find that hard to believe. Not sure where they got that number from, unless they have insider information.
04-30-2010, 07:33 AM
#2688
Race Director
surely Nissan has same salaries like Honda.(I am not even going into past history of cost cutting of entire top management from 1990s).
When Honda built RWD/7speedauto/DI engine on 112inch wheel base Japanese built car. its price will be atleast $15k more than Nissan/Infiniti comparable. .
Just building Nissan Patrol comparable car from Honda will easily be above $100K.
Nissan R&D budget is already half of Honda and will be further go down.
Nissan will just buy engines from MB. Nissan is agressively cutting cost.
(I am not even going into past history of cost cutting of entire top management from 1990s). When Honda built RWD/7speedauto/DI engine on 112inch wheel base Japanese built car. its price will be atleast $15k more than Nissan/Infiniti comparable. .
Just building Nissan Patrol comparable car from Honda will easily be above $100K.
Nissan R&D budget is already half of Honda and will be further go down.
Nissan will just buy engines from MB. Nissan is agressively cutting cost.
04-30-2010, 12:00 PM
#2689
There's only so much one can cut out in terms of costs. Nissan may buy their engines from MB and reduce their R&D costs, but then they are the mercy of MB for the cost of those engines. The poor slob assembling the G in Japan makes about the same as the poor slob on the Acura assembly line. Unless they start using Chianese parts and labor, the cost structure of each unit for the car itself is not that much lower than an Acura. Overhead costs may be a bit lower. You just can't make a RWD sedan like the G for much less than what they are selling for now - unless, like I mentioned, they are willing to lose money to pump up the volume.
Just look at Apple and Google with there muli billion profits. how much there salaries and bonuses will increase yearly compare to say Motorola or Yahoo. and now repeat this cycle over 20 to 30 year period. Honda was even ahead in billions in 1980s thats why they could afford to launch Acura ahead of Infiniti. Applie and Google can still control cost by outsourcing manufacturing and hiring from India and China but Honda even cant do it for Japan based Car.
Nissan is going to cut with this MB agreement alot more. so price drop is expected. Euro is declining relative to Yen.
04-30-2010, 02:08 PM
#2690
Race Director
Maybe, in the future, if they get rid of more staff and MB gives them a break on the engines. We are now talking about the G25 that will come out later this year which already has fixed costs that I seriously doubt are 5K less than the same car with a different engine.
05-04-2010, 07:40 AM
#2691
Safety Car
Recall
Nissan Motor Co. recalled Infiniti G35 sedans and coupes, due to faulty airbags that may not deploy during a crash, U.S. regulators said.
The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said as many as 134,215 Infiniti G35 sedans from model years 2005-2006 and G35 coupes from model years 2005-2007 are subject to the recall.
The recall is for vehicles sold both in and outside of the United States, a Nissan official said.
Nissan has yet to inform federal officials how the problem will be fixed, NHTSA said. Nissan informed federal officials of the potential problem two weeks ago, NHTSA reports show.
NHTSA said a wire harness for the airbags may wear down to the point that it could interrupt a signal to deploy the airbags in the event of a crash.
The report mentioned no crashes or injuries related to the problem.
05-04-2010, 09:07 AM
#2692
Safety Car
Apparently, Edmunds says that the new G25 6MT will start at $28,750:
http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g25/...mktid=cj260233
Audi A4 - $31,500
Lexus IS250 - $31,500
BMW 328i - $33,500
Mercedes-Benz C300 - $33,600
If so, this significantly undercuts the competition. That is almost a $5k difference between it and the C300. That would also make it cheaper than a 4-cylinder TSX. I find that hard to believe. Not sure where they got that number from, unless they have insider information.
http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g25/...mktid=cj260233
Audi A4 - $31,500
Lexus IS250 - $31,500
BMW 328i - $33,500
Mercedes-Benz C300 - $33,600
If so, this significantly undercuts the competition. That is almost a $5k difference between it and the C300. That would also make it cheaper than a 4-cylinder TSX. I find that hard to believe. Not sure where they got that number from, unless they have insider information.
so why so low? is the awd that much more? is it stripped of options? or is the higher end g37 starting price lower than i think?
05-04-2010, 10:25 AM
#2694
The sizzle in the Steak
Another recall....yea!
I guess Infiniti's no airbag going off is better than the Honda version where it goes off and shoots shrapnel into your skull?
...oof!
I guess Infiniti's no airbag going off is better than the Honda version where it goes off and shoots shrapnel into your skull?
...oof!
05-04-2010, 05:23 PM
#2697
Next Infiniti G37 to Get Hybrid Option
The next all-new Infiniti G37 will be drastically different than today’s version, that’s what we hearing from Japan. The styling will take a completely new turn, one that’ll be more sporty and upscale than the current car, borrowing heavily from the Infiniti Essence show car and the new M56 and M37.
Also, the next G will have hybrid power as an option. There are rumors that Nissan is considering mating a 3.5-liter engine with an electric motor, transferring the power to the rear wheels through a 7-speed automatic transmission. Power output? About 400 bhp. Naturally, the car’s fuel economy will be greatly improved. Our sources say that the price tag of the hybrid car will probably be around $60,000 (about $35,000 for the gasoline-powered version). Expect to hear more about the hybrid-powered G sedan and coupe in the next few months. -Sam Mitani - Road & Track
Also, the next G will have hybrid power as an option. There are rumors that Nissan is considering mating a 3.5-liter engine with an electric motor, transferring the power to the rear wheels through a 7-speed automatic transmission. Power output? About 400 bhp. Naturally, the car’s fuel economy will be greatly improved. Our sources say that the price tag of the hybrid car will probably be around $60,000 (about $35,000 for the gasoline-powered version). Expect to hear more about the hybrid-powered G sedan and coupe in the next few months. -Sam Mitani - Road & Track
05-04-2010, 05:39 PM
#2698
The sizzle in the Steak
The styling will take a completely new turn
Hope that's true!
till we get confirmation.
05-04-2010, 08:55 PM
#2701
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05-05-2010, 09:48 PM
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The only way they're gonna charge 60 grand for a G Hybrid is if it's an alternative to the IS F and M3. That's more expensive that what we are expecting the new M35 Hybrid to cost.
05-05-2010, 10:49 PM
#2704
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05-05-2010, 11:08 PM
#2705
They need to focus on building their customer base which will increase sales and once they do that, they can increase prices much further down the road once they have an established product and customer base. A great example of this is the MDX.
05-27-2010, 04:48 PM
#2707
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Next idiot that comes in saying XYZ brand is better-looking or blah blah blah and makes it personal gets a nice month-long vacation, mkay...?
05-27-2010, 04:49 PM
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Just want to be clear in case this thread goes down the stupid-path like the other ones of late... 
05-27-2010, 05:18 PM
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05-27-2010, 05:20 PM
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05-27-2010, 09:38 PM
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05-27-2010, 09:44 PM
#2713
Alright, let's get back on topic here.
I like the blue one it looks aggressive, but the green doesn't look so good to me. I don't like the back of the red one either.
I like the blue one it looks aggressive, but the green doesn't look so good to me. I don't like the back of the red one either.
05-31-2010, 12:18 AM
#2717
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When's the next gen due? '12 or '13?
05-31-2010, 11:30 PM
#2718
Edmunds First Drive - 2011 G25/Skyline 250GT
2010 Nissan Skyline 250GT First Drive
2010 Nissan Skyline 250GT First Drive
First Impression - Even with just 2.5 liters of displacement, this VQ-Series V6 still means business.
Packaged for America
The rest of the 250GT package is just as the 370GT, and you'd quickly recognize it as an Infiniti G sedan. We shouldn't read too much into the price of the 2010 Nissan Skyline 250GT Type P, as the equivalent of $42,777 reflects not only local taxes but also yen-shock. No doubt the car's price would be carefully tweaked to compete with the BMW 328i and Lexus IS 250.
What really counts is that Nissan's sport sedan still cuts it against front-line competition with a 2.5-liter V6. The 2010 Nissan Skyline 250GT has more spirit than the more polished IS 250 and can do a lot of what the 328i does for a lot less money.
Packaged for America
The rest of the 250GT package is just as the 370GT, and you'd quickly recognize it as an Infiniti G sedan. We shouldn't read too much into the price of the 2010 Nissan Skyline 250GT Type P, as the equivalent of $42,777 reflects not only local taxes but also yen-shock. No doubt the car's price would be carefully tweaked to compete with the BMW 328i and Lexus IS 250.
What really counts is that Nissan's sport sedan still cuts it against front-line competition with a 2.5-liter V6. The 2010 Nissan Skyline 250GT has more spirit than the more polished IS 250 and can do a lot of what the 328i does for a lot less money.
06-01-2010, 09:50 AM
#2719
Race Director
Hmm... the JDM version has no MT option. That means it's less likely the US version will either. So, the only info left to find out is price and mileage numbers.
