Hyundai: Tiburon news
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Talk about innovation. This was highlighted at the 2007 Geneve auto show. They're use in new materials and styling in this car is very forward thinking from Hyundai.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Car_...83.A12027.html
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/n...qarmaq_concept
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Car_...83.A12027.html
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/n...qarmaq_concept
At the Geneva International Motor Show today, Hyundai Motor Co. and GE Plastics presented QarmaQ, a first in the Crossover Coupe segment. The QarmaQ is Hyundai's Advanced Technology Demonstration Vehicle (ATDV) that showcases over 30 different environmentally progressive technologies led by the innovative "Elastic Front", an innovative solution that can help reduce the risk of severe injuries in Crossover Utility Vehicles (CUV) pedestrian collisions.
Designed at Hyundai Motor Europe's Design and Technical Center in Russelsheim and engineered in close cooperation with GE Plastics, QarmaQ develops and validates over 30 key technologies, which will be selectively incorporated into Hyundai's new models to be rolled out from 2008-2014.
"At Hyundai, we believe in innovation for humanity, and QarmaQ demonstrates our commitment to safety innovation and our determination to bring more environmentally responsible technologies to the market," said Dr. Kwon Moon-Shik, Hyundai Motor's vice president of advanced technology. "We chose to partner with GE Plastics because of their commitment to the environment and their wide range of innovative materials and technical capabilities. Technologies from QarmaQ will provide Hyundai owners with a safer, more environmentally responsible car and a better driving experience."
The QarmaQ is lighter, stronger and more economical than any current production CUV in its class. It also offers significant recycling advantages both in construction and eventual disassembly. In short, it is a viable and realistic glimpse of the future potential of personal automotive transport.
Designed at Hyundai Motor Europe's Design and Technical Center in Russelsheim and engineered in close cooperation with GE Plastics, QarmaQ develops and validates over 30 key technologies, which will be selectively incorporated into Hyundai's new models to be rolled out from 2008-2014.
"At Hyundai, we believe in innovation for humanity, and QarmaQ demonstrates our commitment to safety innovation and our determination to bring more environmentally responsible technologies to the market," said Dr. Kwon Moon-Shik, Hyundai Motor's vice president of advanced technology. "We chose to partner with GE Plastics because of their commitment to the environment and their wide range of innovative materials and technical capabilities. Technologies from QarmaQ will provide Hyundai owners with a safer, more environmentally responsible car and a better driving experience."
The QarmaQ is lighter, stronger and more economical than any current production CUV in its class. It also offers significant recycling advantages both in construction and eventual disassembly. In short, it is a viable and realistic glimpse of the future potential of personal automotive transport.
Tuscani FTW
If the RWD V8 coupe is destined to wear the Tiburon/Tuscani badge, then I want to see evolutionary styling rather than revolutionary. I really like the current generation Tiburon and the previous design before the mild makeover. I'm anxious to see what direction they will take from here.
If the RWD V8 coupe is destined to wear the Tiburon/Tuscani badge, then I want to see evolutionary styling rather than revolutionary. I really like the current generation Tiburon and the previous design before the mild makeover. I'm anxious to see what direction they will take from here.
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undress it already!
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The Veracruz, the rear-wheel-drive Genesis luxury sedan and various other new rear-wheel-drive offerings will take Hyundai into segments it's never been, but the one vehicle about which we're most excited is this, a rear-wheel-drive coupe from Hyundai.
These new spy pics, reportedly taken in Korea, show the new coupe out on public roads. It appears to be similar to the vehicle we saw in a previous set of spy shots, right down to the same type of wheels. The problem is that there's much more we don't know about this vehicle than what we do know. Will the rear-wheel-drive coupe be branded as the next-generation Tiburon or be sold alongside the automaker's front-wheel-drive coupe? Is it based on the same rear-wheel-drive platform as the Genesis? Will it feature a supercharged or turbocharged V6, Hyundai's new Lambda V8, or both?
Speculation has it that this RWD coupe will spell the end for the Tiburon, which may be moved over to Kia after its current product cycle. The larger, RWD coupe, however, is reportedly meant to compete with the Infiniti G37/350Z and other similar vehicles. Most expect the base model to feature either a turbocharged or supercharged version of the company's 3.8L V6, though even if it were naturally aspirated, we expect the base model of this coupe to blow the doors off the best Tiburon. The V8 model will obviously get Hyundai's new Lambda V8 and develop at least 300 horsepower, as well. Of course, we have every reason to believe it will come with loads of safety features and a price that considerably undercuts its competition, as that's the Hyundai way. A forum poster at the linked source believes the yet-to-be-named RWD coupe will be launched in Korea in March 2008, which, if true, means this model would likely enter the U.S. mid to late 2008.
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The Veracruz, the rear-wheel-drive Genesis luxury sedan and various other new rear-wheel-drive offerings will take Hyundai into segments it's never been, but the one vehicle about which we're most excited is this, a rear-wheel-drive coupe from Hyundai.
These new spy pics, reportedly taken in Korea, show the new coupe out on public roads. It appears to be similar to the vehicle we saw in a previous set of spy shots, right down to the same type of wheels. The problem is that there's much more we don't know about this vehicle than what we do know. Will the rear-wheel-drive coupe be branded as the next-generation Tiburon or be sold alongside the automaker's front-wheel-drive coupe? Is it based on the same rear-wheel-drive platform as the Genesis? Will it feature a supercharged or turbocharged V6, Hyundai's new Lambda V8, or both?
Speculation has it that this RWD coupe will spell the end for the Tiburon, which may be moved over to Kia after its current product cycle. The larger, RWD coupe, however, is reportedly meant to compete with the Infiniti G37/350Z and other similar vehicles. Most expect the base model to feature either a turbocharged or supercharged version of the company's 3.8L V6, though even if it were naturally aspirated, we expect the base model of this coupe to blow the doors off the best Tiburon. The V8 model will obviously get Hyundai's new Lambda V8 and develop at least 300 horsepower, as well. Of course, we have every reason to believe it will come with loads of safety features and a price that considerably undercuts its competition, as that's the Hyundai way. A forum poster at the linked source believes the yet-to-be-named RWD coupe will be launched in Korea in March 2008, which, if true, means this model would likely enter the U.S. mid to late 2008.
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http://www.autospies.com/news/Hyunda...-not-V8-16901/
Brass at Hyundai hittin' the brakes early on the V8 rumors it seems...
Can't say I totally disagree with that decision if true.
V8 = heavier, higher purchase price, higher insurance rates, less chance they'd offer it with a 6m/t for the real driving fans.
That 3.8 V6 is a pretty good starting point...makes 263HP/257TQ in such exhilarating models as the Azera and Veracruz.
They could easily tune that dog to 300+ HP and 270+ TQ for the coupe and they'd have a home run if the styling is even slightly better than the G37. (A modest goal if there ever was one
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Brass at Hyundai hittin' the brakes early on the V8 rumors it seems...
Can't say I totally disagree with that decision if true.
V8 = heavier, higher purchase price, higher insurance rates, less chance they'd offer it with a 6m/t for the real driving fans.
That 3.8 V6 is a pretty good starting point...makes 263HP/257TQ in such exhilarating models as the Azera and Veracruz.
They could easily tune that dog to 300+ HP and 270+ TQ for the coupe and they'd have a home run if the styling is even slightly better than the G37. (A modest goal if there ever was one
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Just another thought - but what I'm worried about more than the look or the options is the pricing.
Everyone keeps on thinking that Hyundai will offer an affordable RWD coupe, but chances are it'll be hard for Hyundai to keep prices down with the new BH platform.
While Hyundai has been raising the quality of their vehicles, Hyundai has also been raising the price on their newer vehicles; a RWD V6 3.0 liter(+) coupe may cost significantly more than what a currently decked out Tibby SE costs.
Currently a decked out Tiburon SE will go for around $24k with all options. If Hyundai does offer the 265 HP 3.8 liter (currently offered in the Azera) in the RWD coupe, pricing will probably soar upwards to around $27k-$30k for the V6 model.
Note, however, that $27k-$30k for a RWD 3.8 liter V6 263 HP coupe is a steal - much like how the Pontiac GTO was a steal of a price for a V8 for the price tag. The G37, which will be the primary target of this new Hyundai vehicle, costs $10k more.
The problem that will remain though is will people shell out $30k for a Hyundai V6 RWD Sports coupe? If it were a Honda or a Toyota, the answer is obvious - there would probably be a waiting list prior to the release date.
My prediction: if Hyundai does offer a Turbo I4 as a base model (as spied in the pictures), It'll most likely sell for around $21k and will most likely become the new "rice rocket" amongst young tuners, much like how the Turbo I4 DSM was a decade ago.
However, I think its logical to assume that the V6 model will cost significantly more, and probably too much more than what many are willing to pay for a Hyundai.
Although... a 3.8 V6 RWD sports coupe for $27-$30k is a steal - count me in for one.
What will most likely happen... is that Hyundai will probably just recycle the current 2.5 liter V6 in the Tiburon GT and SE and slap forced induction on there to keep costs down. The current Tibby V6 becomes a monster with a supercharger.
Everyone keeps on thinking that Hyundai will offer an affordable RWD coupe, but chances are it'll be hard for Hyundai to keep prices down with the new BH platform.
While Hyundai has been raising the quality of their vehicles, Hyundai has also been raising the price on their newer vehicles; a RWD V6 3.0 liter(+) coupe may cost significantly more than what a currently decked out Tibby SE costs.
Currently a decked out Tiburon SE will go for around $24k with all options. If Hyundai does offer the 265 HP 3.8 liter (currently offered in the Azera) in the RWD coupe, pricing will probably soar upwards to around $27k-$30k for the V6 model.
Note, however, that $27k-$30k for a RWD 3.8 liter V6 263 HP coupe is a steal - much like how the Pontiac GTO was a steal of a price for a V8 for the price tag. The G37, which will be the primary target of this new Hyundai vehicle, costs $10k more.
The problem that will remain though is will people shell out $30k for a Hyundai V6 RWD Sports coupe? If it were a Honda or a Toyota, the answer is obvious - there would probably be a waiting list prior to the release date.
My prediction: if Hyundai does offer a Turbo I4 as a base model (as spied in the pictures), It'll most likely sell for around $21k and will most likely become the new "rice rocket" amongst young tuners, much like how the Turbo I4 DSM was a decade ago.
However, I think its logical to assume that the V6 model will cost significantly more, and probably too much more than what many are willing to pay for a Hyundai.
Although... a 3.8 V6 RWD sports coupe for $27-$30k is a steal - count me in for one.
What will most likely happen... is that Hyundai will probably just recycle the current 2.5 liter V6 in the Tiburon GT and SE and slap forced induction on there to keep costs down. The current Tibby V6 becomes a monster with a supercharger.
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If Hyundai does this car right, I dont see why it would be unreasonable for it to hit 30k for the top-trim model, and maybe that is even a little conservative. If it can do what a 38-40k G37 can do for 32k, that would be a strong showing for that segment wouldn't it?
I say leave the turbo I-4 out and leave the Tibby for the sport compact crowd (Maybe put the turbo I-4 IN the Tibby if they were smart.) The Genesis concept looks great, hopefully they are smart enough to build a proper luxury GT car on their new luxury sedan platform.
I say leave the turbo I-4 out and leave the Tibby for the sport compact crowd (Maybe put the turbo I-4 IN the Tibby if they were smart.) The Genesis concept looks great, hopefully they are smart enough to build a proper luxury GT car on their new luxury sedan platform.
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If this new RWD Hyundai gets into the $30k range it will be competing with the new BMW 1 series, even though the Hyundai will be slightly bigger. I think people will rather get a 1 series than a Hyundai even if it's a couple thousand more, but it will be good competition either way.
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this thing will not go over 30k if it is v6. my buddy bought an azera for 24k. that's 5 grand discount! i bet a nicely equipped one would cost 26k OTD at the most.
hyundai sells car way way under msrp because well, they aren't honyota's yet. go try buy a sonata v6 with a leather without roof right now. you can buy it cheaper than a civic.
hyundai sells car way way under msrp because well, they aren't honyota's yet. go try buy a sonata v6 with a leather without roof right now. you can buy it cheaper than a civic.
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
this thing will not go over 30k if it is v6. my buddy bought an azera for 24k. that's 5 grand discount! i bet a nicely equipped one would cost 26k OTD at the most.
hyundai sells car way way under msrp because well, they aren't honyota's yet. go try buy a sonata v6 with a leather without roof right now. you can buy it cheaper than a civic.
hyundai sells car way way under msrp because well, they aren't honyota's yet. go try buy a sonata v6 with a leather without roof right now. you can buy it cheaper than a civic.
If Hyundai indeed does put in a 3.8 liter V6 into a RWD platform, it'll definitely be much more than 24k. Even the top brass at Hyundai should know that 30k out the door for a 3.8 liter V6 RWD coupe is a steal. I mean off the top of your head, can you think of any other 3.0 liter (or more) V6 RWD coupe that can be had for less than 30k out the door?
For 26k, I would imagine that hyundai would supply the new coupe with a supercharged version of the 2.5L V6 in the current Tibbys. Which would be a disappointment; I'm hoping for a NA V6 in the new coupe that can easily pound out 260 HP+ without a charger or turbo.
Also, the current Veracruz Limited AWD has a price tag of $34k, indicating that Hyundai is charging a ton more for their top of the line models.
Not to mention, rumor has it that Kia is in the works to produce a cheap RWD sports coupe to compete with the Mazda MX5, which would fill the shoes of the current Tibby, and also fill the low $20k price range. Another indicator that the RWD Hyundai coupe will fit in nicely into the upper $20k, lower $30k range.
If Kia/Hyundai is smarter than Honda/Acura, which they indeed seem to be, they will not release two sports coupes in both Kia and Hyundai that will occupy the same price bracket (i.e. integra/accord).
Again, I think the Turbo I4 in the spy pics will be in the lower mid $20k's while the V6 will start at $26-$27k.
Confirmed! Hyundai making Tiburon replacement RWD
Confirmed! Hyundai making Tiburon replacement RWD
We've had rumors and spy shots before, but up until now we really didn't have any confirmation that Hyundai's new Tiburon replacement would switch from a pull-me to a push-me. With the new rwd platform that the company recently developed for its Genesis luxury sedan, it was expected that the next generation of affordable sports car from Korea would ditch its fwd layout and get some true sports car manners. Well, Hyundai just confirmed that when that car shows up in late 2008 or early 2009, it will indeed be rear-wheel drive.
As predicted, the car will share its rwd platform with the already-announced Genesis sedan, which we should see in about a year. The Tiburon replacement should show up half a year to a year after the sedan, and might even come as a convertible. In fact, there is also a suggestion that we'll be seeing several models based on this platform. We're not sure if the coupe will share the sedan's new V8 in addition to the expected V6, but it would make an interesting competitor for the Mustang if it did. Hyundai has officially said no, but there are still whispers, and if not a V8, some kind of boosted V6 in the top models might suffice.
Source : http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/30/c...placement-rwd/
We've had rumors and spy shots before, but up until now we really didn't have any confirmation that Hyundai's new Tiburon replacement would switch from a pull-me to a push-me. With the new rwd platform that the company recently developed for its Genesis luxury sedan, it was expected that the next generation of affordable sports car from Korea would ditch its fwd layout and get some true sports car manners. Well, Hyundai just confirmed that when that car shows up in late 2008 or early 2009, it will indeed be rear-wheel drive.
As predicted, the car will share its rwd platform with the already-announced Genesis sedan, which we should see in about a year. The Tiburon replacement should show up half a year to a year after the sedan, and might even come as a convertible. In fact, there is also a suggestion that we'll be seeing several models based on this platform. We're not sure if the coupe will share the sedan's new V8 in addition to the expected V6, but it would make an interesting competitor for the Mustang if it did. Hyundai has officially said no, but there are still whispers, and if not a V8, some kind of boosted V6 in the top models might suffice.
Source : http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/30/c...placement-rwd/
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon
I mean off the top of your head, can you think of any other 3.0 liter (or more) V6 RWD coupe that can be had for less than 30k out the door?
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New pics courtesy of Brenda "bimbo" Priddy:
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enth...78.A13180.html
Facts seem a little off unless she knows something everyone else doesnt...Hyundai NA's VP already said no V8...
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enth...78.A13180.html
Facts seem a little off unless she knows something everyone else doesnt...Hyundai NA's VP already said no V8...
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
if the V6 Coupe cost anywhere near 30k... then i dont know... a well equiped 350Z is 30k..
350Z > this.
350Z > this.
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Originally Posted by TLyoung'un
rest assured it wont. having been following hyundai for a while now, I can say this with utmost confidence. Hyundai is about value. Being overly ambitious (price-wise) now would be disastrous for them.
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From the Car & Driver article:
I would definitely take a look at Hyundai's offering, along with the G37. Not really 'cross shopping' price points, but an import RWD sports car is an import RWD sports car to me.
What remains to be seen, though, is just who will buy such a car. After all, it’s hard to get fans of muscle car old-timers such as the Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Camaro, and Dodge Challenger to even consider defecting to another domestic pony car, and they’d sooner shave their mullets before they’d be seen in a Hyundai. Folks shopping for sporty imports such as the VW GTI, Mazda RX-8, and the Infiniti G37, on the other hand, may be more open-minded.
I would definitely take a look at Hyundai's offering, along with the G37. Not really 'cross shopping' price points, but an import RWD sports car is an import RWD sports car to me.
