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Old 03-25-2015, 09:44 AM
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Since this is supposed to be a smaller version of the s2k, anyone over 5'9" won't be able to fit in this thing. I dont foresee this thing selling in north america. Go ahead, Honda, prove me wrong.
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Dear Honda,
What we want is the second coming of the S2000 that's got ~275hp and revs really high but incorporates some more modern technology.
Sincerely,
Global Enthusiasts

Dear Global Enthusiasts,
Here's a fugly 63hp three cylinder car that revs to 7k rpm. It's got some modern technology and you'll have all the time in the world to use it because it will take forever to get up to speed.
Fvck you all,
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there is NOTHING attractive about that car. Just when I thought Honda was getting their shit together... they come out with a 67hp, slow as hell, ugly piece of shit. Wow.
Seriously I can't tell if you guys are trolling or what...lol!

Although it's called the S660, I think this is more of a reincarnation of the Honda Beat. It's not exactly a S2k replacement. The S2k replacement is supposed to slot in between this S660 and the NSX.

Besides, the export version is supposed to get a bigger engine, probably a 1.0L turbo engine with about 120hp. This particular one only has a 67hp engine because of the Kei car regulation in Japan, ie, this is for Japan only.

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Since this is supposed to be a smaller version of the s2k, anyone over 5'9" won't be able to fit in this thing. I dont foresee this thing selling in north america. Go ahead, Honda, prove me wrong.
While the oversize is smaller than the S2k, it seems to be quite a bit taller? As such, it might not be that bad.
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Honda should call it Beat and drop the S nomenclature on this vehicle altogether. Calling this thing an S seems like a slap in the face to the s2000 and s600.

While neither of its predecessors were powerful, they were sports cars. Kei and sportscar just doesnt work well in the same sentence.

This car does check off some good boxes, namely, being a 6MT, RWD, and extremely lightweight by todays standards, and for that I applaud Honda. The looks I could do without- I know, looks are subjective, but man, it is something ugly.

If this thing came with a turbo 1.5L, it would be bad ass. And that's not even asking for a lot. If it could put out 160hp at the crank, I think it would be a direct competitor for the BRZ/FRS market. Yes, it has less power, but it also weighs less too. And with the turbo, putting out 140lbft of torque should be no problem. This car would be a ton of fun then.

The Beat never sold here because who would buy a Kei car in the land of F350s and the like? If Honda thinks things have changed, I feel this might already be a failure. The only thing that has changed in the last 20 years is North Americans waist sizes.

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Originally Posted by iforyou
While the oversize is smaller than the S2k, it seems to be quite a bit taller? As such, it might not be that bad.
Sooo... it's more of a minivan is what you're saying...
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hahahaha a mid-engine rear wheel drive minivan
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Originally Posted by iforyou
hahahaha a mid-engine rear wheel drive minivan
So it's the Toyota Previa reincarnated as a roadster?
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The Previa's engine is at the back?
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Originally Posted by iforyou
The Previa's engine is at the back?
Middle.
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Honda S660 Modulo Photos Leaked



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The white prototype with stripes is a S660 Modulo, essentially the Honda equivalent of Nismo. This body kit enhances the sporty appearance of the car even further. And get this: it even has a pop-up rear wing.

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Looks like a Nissan juke

I do like the gauges though

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Old 03-27-2015, 05:11 PM
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shxt that actually doesn't look that bad...hahahahah
Old 03-30-2015, 06:43 AM
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So Honda made a mini cooper vert with less power. Great job
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Honda is on a mission to get its sporty groove back. We’ve already seen the new Acura NSX; the Civic Type R was revealed at the recent Geneva auto show; the company’s comeback as a Formula 1 engine supplier is underway; and now Honda has added a new, somewhat smaller, performance car to its range. 1st shown in concept form at the 2013 Tokyo show, the S660 is a spiritual successor to the tiny Beat roadster of the early 1990s.

Like the Beat, the S660 features a mid-engine layout with a 660-cc, 3-cylinder turbo that keeps it within the parameters of a kei car (a special class of ultrasmall subcompacts) in its home market of Japan. Sure, it looks cool, but why should Americans care? Well, as we reported in January, an inside source told us that the company is also currently working on an export version with a more powerful, 1.0-liter turbo rumored to pump out more than 125 horsepower—and that it’s earmarked for the United States. That’s reason enough to take this little funster for a spin.


From Show Floor to Track Paddock

As we arrived at Sodegaura Forest Raceway, 90 minutes southeast of Tokyo, 3 S660s sat in the paddock. They looked almost identical to the 2013 concept car that spawned the new model. The S660 is the result of an in-house contest that began 4 years ago, wherein more than 400 young engineers submitted ideas for new vehicles to company bosses, and the S660 design came out on top.

Honda has developed a mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive chassis just for the S660, which uses an aluminum-and-steel structure that’s stiffer than the old S2000’s. The Japan-spec S660 might be fitted with an uninspiring 63-hp engine, but we’re told this chassis could take a lot more power—hence the 125-hp version. You can feel the rigidity, too, in high-speed corners and under heavy braking.


Small Car, Small Engine

Tipping the scales at just 1830 pounds (according to Honda), the S660 employs the same 3-cylinder turbocharged engine found in the popular N-Box kei car. However, to improve throttle response, engineers have revised the turbo geometry to produce quicker off-the-line acceleration and stronger midrange torque.

To lift the overall performance of the engine, the redline is raised from 7000 rpm to 7700 rpm, while a deeper oil pan helps to cope with the higher g-forces during cornering and braking. The turbo spools up at about 2500 rpm and delivers a healthy dose of torque all the way to redline. It’s between 5000 and 7700 rpm that the engine really comes to life, though, letting out a high-pitched and metallic raspy roar that belies its tiny displacement.


Like the S2000’s legendary gearbox and shifter, the S660 features a positive-feeling, 6-speed manual transmission with delightfully short throws and gear ratios that are superbly matched to the engine. It also has well-positioned pedals and a light clutch.

Granted, there’s not a lot of power on tap, but even when flung into a corner at 60 mph, it’s difficult to get the planted rear end to budge. Honda’s “Agile Handling Assist” system can brake an inside front wheel to enhance turn-in and cornering stability, while specially developed 16-inch Yokohama Advan Neova tires provide traction levels previously unheard of in kei cars.



All that grip and the fact that the traction control can’t be switched off means there’s no oversteer to play around with. But there’s no understeer, either, just an at-the-limit neutrality that’s fairly rare these days. As for the steering—which is accomplished via an extrasmall, 13.8-inch wheel—it’s weighty enough to feel substantial, offers crisp responses, and provides decent feedback about what the front tires are doing.

The cabin is tight but comfortable. A 6-foot-2-inch driver can fit behind the wheel and change gears without smashing his knees against the steering wheel—only just, mind you. The large, centrally located tachometer sets a sporty tone, while the dash-mounted screen offers drivers the option of a g-meter that displays lateral and deceleration forces in real time.


Our only issues with the S660 are the lack of outright power and its fiddly softtop roof, which must be manually deconstructed and placed in the tiny trunk. But other than that, the S660 takes the kei-car genre to new heights—we just hope Honda can bring it to our shores.

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Yup, I won't be able to fit, even if I tried.

125hp isn't bad. Some bolt ons and retune might get close to 150hp (125-130hp at the wheels) with the turbo, I'd imagine. I guess time will tell.
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Hey they're doing the iPad look for the navi screen too. Wonder if thats going to show up on other hondas now.
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that shit is UGLY.

ummm out of 400 designers, they picked that desigN!?
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Looks like Mugen wants to play too.



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Honda aftermarket firm Mugen has wasted absolutely no time in creating a new styling upgrade for the just-released Honda S660 Roadster. With an obvious attempt at toughening up the spiky little kei car, Mugen has revealed an aerodynamics package that adds new bumpers, extended side sills, a new spoiler, new front grille, darkened taillights, new 15- and 16-inch rims, and a new hardtop.

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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Yup, I won't be able to fit, even if I tried.

125hp isn't bad. Some bolt ons and retune might get close to 150hp (125-130hp at the wheels) with the turbo, I'd imagine. I guess time will tell.
125hp is not bad at all considering it's around 1900lb.

One variation of the Lotus Elise also had a 120hp engine with a curb weight of about 1900lb too. It could do 0-60mph in 5.9s. Needless to say, that car was rated very highly for its handling.

The 190hp Elise is easily a low 13's car.
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now THAT looks like a baby NSX. Looks cool, but I bet you the Mugen version will cost another 8k on top of the fully optioned model.
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The only way that Mugen S660 could be more Japanese is if Ken Watanabe was wearing a Godzilla suit while sitting in the car eating udon. IOW, it's bloody awful.

I like the S660 as a city car. If I lived in Europe, I'd definitely consider one of those over a 2-seat Smart car.
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I like the S660 as a city car. If I lived in Europe, I'd definitely consider one of those over a 2-seat Smart car.
Audi A1 for sure.
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Audi A1 for sure.
The A1/S1 would probably be a lot more expensive.

I'd rather have the S1 over just about any other city car.
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The only way that Mugen S660 could be more Japanese is if Ken Watanabe was wearing a Godzilla suit while sitting in the car eating udon. IOW, it's bloody awful


Best description I've seen in ages
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Post More Powerful Honda S660 With Turbo 1.0L Gets Green Light

From here: We Hear: More Powerful Honda S660 With Turbo 1.0L Gets Green Light

We previously reported that American Honda CEO Tetsuo Iwamura wanted to sell the Japan-only S660 around the world, and that time may have finally arrived. According to Australian publication Motoring.com.au, the Japanese automaker has greenlit a more potent version of the S660, which will wear an S1000 badge and be offered in other markets outside Japan.

The tiny sports car will reportedly drop the 64-hp 660-cc three-cylinder engine in favor of a larger 1.0-liter turbocharged inline-three that dishes out around 126 hp to the rear wheels via a six-speed manual. In addition to the more powerful engine, the S1000 will have a hard roof with a wider and more aggressive body than the S660. Another difference between the S1000 and S660 you can expect is a unique “snorkel-type” roof air-intake that will help cool the engine. What’s more is that there are even reports of an S660 Type R in the works. This car will reportedly put out over 100 hp as well, and it may show up in showrooms as soon as mid-2016. Rumors of a kei-car in the U.S. have been circulating for quite some time. We’ve reported before that Honda could wait for the more potent version of the S660 to arrive before exporting to other markets including the United States. While 126 hp doesn’t sound like much, it should be plenty for a mini-car that weighs between 1,875 and 2,000 pounds. To meet American front- and side-impact regulations, however, some changes would need to be made.

As designer Sugiura told us when the concept debuted in 2013, "any export version, and we are not saying we have one yet, would have to undergo some major body modifications like the impact-absorbing '5 mph bumpers' required for the U.S. market as well as wider fenders and wheel arches for larger tires."

Still, this gives us hope that we may one day get Honda's pint-sized, mid-engine roadster.
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From here: Don?t Bet On The S660 Arriving Stateside, Says Honda?s Local Chief

Honda has hit a Japan-only homerun with its new S660 sports car. The diminutive mid-engined machine has sold out its entire first-year production run of 8,600 cars. We love the fact that a nation is so excited for a lightweight, low-power convertible that its citizens quickly scooped them all up. There will be another go-around for the car, and the orders will no doubt flood in again.

While the S660 has kicked serious butt in Japan, we'd be really curious how it would fare in the United States. Unfortunately, the car isn’t likely to end up here based on recent comments made by American Honda chief John Mendel.

"I wouldn't put my chips on that," Mendel told Automotive News (subscription required) when asked about the car’s chances of being sold locally. "When the practicalities of the market come in, and the car only so big, that might not be the best car for the U.S. market—it might be better for India or China or somewhere else."

His comments aren’t much of a surprise considering how small the S660 actual is. Recall that it’s nearly two feet shorter than the already tiny fourth-generation Mazda MX-5 Miata. Additionally, the power figures seem rather unappealing on paper. The S660 makes just 66 horsepower. That's fine considering it also weighs less than 2,000 pounds, but it could be enough to scare off potential sales.

Honda’s shrinking pool of performance fans shouldn’t feel too bad, however. New Si- and Type R-badged Civic models complete with turbocharged VTEC engines are just around the corner and are expected to be followed soon by a new mid-engine sports car.
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Can they just re-release the S2K? I'll buy one.

This car looks like a rotten tofu.
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Can they just re-release the S2K? I'll buy one.

This car looks like a rotten tofu.
@ rotten tofu...
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TL; DR
-Honda Hattes US!



good, cuz i didnt want that ugly thing state side anyway.
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Just look at this thing. WHY!??????

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^ Because. Honda hates you.
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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/mod...-s660-sportier

But it's probably ignored the one area you wanted the dinky roadster tuned

We are big, big fans of the Honda S660 here at Top Gear. It’s as small and sweet as sports cars get, even if, with less power than a Fiat Panda, it’s not particularly quick.

Prime for some tuning, you’d think, and Honda has done so with this new Modulo X version. There’s sharper, five-way adjutable suspension. More powerful brakes. A semblance of aerodynamics in its design. Fancier lights and interior trim. It’s a more assertive, sportier S660.

But it’s no more powerful. The dinky little S660 is designed to Japanese Kei car regulations, see, so its 660cc engine size and 63bhp power output can’t be tweaked at the factory. Given it’s turbocharged, though, we’re sure you could give it a bit of a tickle once you got it home.

The Modulo X is pricey, mind, costing 2,850,120 yen, or just shy of £20,000. That’s a stark £6,000 hike on a basic S660, which is something of a bargain for a rear-driven, mid-engined roadster. And no, it’s still not coming to the UK. Boo.
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I saw a lowered one with wide wheels and tires in Tokyo. Wish I snapped a pic, was too slow.

Kei cars just don't belong in this market, but I wish they did.
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